I am trying to find out what I need to get a grant to start a business. One of the things I need to figure out is "How big do I need my building to be"? I was thinking of going with a 300' by 300' 2 story building so I can do the pop-up archery upstairs and a smaller range downstairs for tuning bows. I would also like to do sales and sevice in the downstairs portion. Would this be too big?? Someone told me that a building that is 300' by 120' would be plenty big enough. What do you guys and girls think is the right size??? Let me know and this would help me out greatly.

Well a football field is 300 ft so I think that might be a little big.....:noidea:

I am trying to find out what I need to get a grant to start a business. One of the things I need to figure out is "How big do I need my building to be"? I was thinking of going with a 300' by 300' 2 story building so I can do the pop-up archery upstairs and a smaller range downstairs for tuning bows. I would also like to do sales and sevice in the downstairs portion. Would this be too big?? Someone told me that a building that is 300' by 120' would be plenty big enough. What do you guys and girls think is the right size??? Let me know and this would help me out greatly.

If you make it that big, I'll make the drive to shoot there once a year just to see it!:biggrin1: :biggrin1:

I am trying to find out what I need to get a grant to start a business. One of the things I need to figure out is "How big do I need my building to be"? I was thinking of going with a 300' by 300' 2 story building so I can do the pop-up archery upstairs and a smaller range downstairs for tuning bows. I would also like to do sales and sevice in the downstairs portion. Would this be too big?? Someone told me that a building that is 300' by 120' would be plenty big enough. What do you guys and girls think is the right size??? Let me know and this would help me out greatly.Even the 120 x 300 would be almost the size of a foot ball field.....that is a big building.

Do you have any idea what the cost would be just for the building ........man i hope you know a lot of rich archer's....for enterence fee's.

Thats real big, your overhead will be out the roof. You won't make enough per month to pay the lights, heat and air, let alone Ins.

Should be fine, but it maybe kind of big. But better to be to big then to have to add on later. I want to build a 300X300, with and up stairs and full basement one day. Up stairs Bow and gun shop, ground level ranges, Basemant Gun range and Quick Stand archer mfg. :smokin:

Should be fine, but it maybe kind of big. But better to be to big then to have to add on later. I want to build a 300X300, with and up stairs and full basement one day. Up stairs Bow and gun shop, ground level ranges, Basemant Gun range and Quick Stand archer mfg. :smokin:When you guys get these built and open....send me a pm....sounds like a good vacation trip.

Thats real big, your overhead will be out the roof. You won't make enough per month to pay the lights, heat and air, let alone Ins.

yeah i doubt you would ever be able to make the payments, let alone a profit......

it will suck, when the bank comes and takes it ........


another thing is you do relize how small the number of archers are in the whole country let alone where ever your building this......???

I dont think its a secret that the numbers of archers are shrinking....

Should be fine, but it maybe kind of big. But better to be to big then to have to add on later. I want to build a 300X300, with and up stairs and full basement one day. Up stairs Bow and gun shop, ground level ranges, Basemant Gun range and Quick Stand archer mfg. :smokin:
You would have to go 350' to get a true 100 yrds... :dizzy:
you need to add in the shooters area and the bullet trap...:D

yeah i doubt you would ever be able to make the payments, let alone a profit......

it will suck, when the bank comes and takes it ........


another thing is you do relize how small the number of archers are in the whole country let alone where ever your building this......???

I dont think its a secret that the numbers of archers are shrinking....

he's applying for a grant. Free money!............:peace: :peace:

he's applying for a grant. Free money!............:peace: :peace:

thats going to bea real big grant......

just rember that the tech/sales areais going to eat up some room. 60yds by 40yds wide would give enough room with alot of shooting lines.

he's applying for a grant. Free money!............:peace: :peace:

I know this Grant theory sounds great but take it from a fellar that knows more than he ever cares to know about grants. Applying for a Grant and getting a Grant is two totally different things. If you do happen to get a grant ya better make sure you keep records and use every dollar of it for the original purpose because they can come in and audit you at anytime. We get grants for stuff at work all the time and most of the time they are a bigger pain in the neck than they are worth...:cool:

I know this Grant theory sounds great but take it from a fellar that knows more than he ever cares to know about grants. Applying for a Grant and getting a Grant is two totally different things. If you do happen to get a grant ya better make sure you keep records and use every dollar of it for the original purpose because they can come in and audit you at anytime. We get grants for stuff at work all the time and most of the time they are a bigger pain in the neck than they are worth...:cool:

I was being sarcastic.......:noidea:

I was being sarcastic.......:noidea:

I was just trying to pass on a little words of wisdom JC...:noidea: I been there and done that...:rockon:

300 x 300 is a BIG building...It's always good to start with more than you need, it's cheaper than adding on later....

I just did a quote on 50Wx100Lx16H

the empty building was $32,667.32

so you would have to double it high.........and go 6 wide and 3 long,.......

that would be roughly $588,000.00.........

I am going to guess that w/concrete that you would need a minimum of .......

750,000 to get a building the size of the one......

you might as well just apply for a million, and have some money to pay the first years taxes and over head.......

As a former small business owner, I really do wish you luck. Make sure there are enough people in your area to support what you are thinking of. Look closely at the demographics.

I was told if I wanted to make a million dollars in the trials motorcycle industry, I'd have to start with 2 million......:doh:

I was told if I wanted to make a million dollars in the trials motorcycle industry, I'd have to start with 2 million......:doh:
We always said the same thing about drag racing...:doh: :laugh:

You may want to look for an excisting building that is setting empty. And good luck. Let us know how it turns out.:rockon:

When you guys get these built and open....send me a pm....sounds like a good vacation trip.

I will be moving out west before I do it or south Ga. :smokin:
Land is not cheap here, 1 acre around me is about 100,000.00 to 500,000.00

yeah i doubt you would ever be able to make the payments, let alone a profit......

it will suck, when the bank comes and takes it ........


another thing is you do relize how small the number of archers are in the whole country let alone where ever your building this......???

I dont think its a secret that the numbers of archers are shrinking....

That is one reason I will only do it when I can pay cash for it. :smokin:

You would have to go 350' to get a true 100 yrds... :dizzy:
you need to add in the shooters area and the bullet trap...:D

Range under ground so I can dig out the back for the gun range. Bullet trap no need river sand, some rubber then earth. I shoot at one built like this and you can shoot a 50 cal bmg there. :smokin:

We always said the same thing about drag racing...:doh: :laugh:

yes lol how to make a small fortune? Start with a large one :smokin:

Sounds great to me..................where is Kempton IL????:D

300 ' x 300' is a great size!

FOR A WAREHOUSE!

if you have 2 stories thats 180,000 square feet, just for fun an ACRE is approx 43,000 square feet. This means you will need at least 2 acres, just for the building foot print. Not including parking lot.

It is great to think big, but it isn't realistic. A building that size would be millions of dollars for startup cost. Due to the size and what it is being used for you would not be able to use a "Standard" metal building as it would be an oven in there and freezing cold in the winter.

electric for a building that size would be thousands a month.

now the "dumb" questions...

1. Why would you need a 100 yard indoor shot?

2. How many people do you expect to be shooting at a time?

Good luck on the grant... :laugh:

300 ' x 300' is a great size!

FOR A WAREHOUSE!

if you have 2 stories thats 180,000 square feet, just for fun an ACRE is approx 43,000 square feet. This means you will need at least 2 acres, just for the building foot print. Not including parking lot.

It is great to think big, but it isn't realistic. A building that size would be millions of dollars for startup cost. Due to the size and what it is being used for you would not be able to use a "Standard" metal building as it would be an oven in there and freezing cold in the winter.

electric for a building that size would be thousands a month.

now the "dumb" questions...

1. Why would you need a 100 yard indoor shot?

2. How many people do you expect to be shooting at a time?

Good luck on the grant... :laugh:

HEY...........shutup. I want him to build it. Just so I can go see and shoot. As long as the shooting does not cost me a college education.:lol: :biggrin1: :laugh:

Our warehouse is just over 300ft long and half as wide, no way anyone would need that much room...except us, we need a bigger warehouse! I'll build a new one and sell ya my old one!

:rockon:

Down here in VA it would cost around $7500. a month 2 rent not countin the lights.
Reason i know the shop down here is 1/3 that size and is payin $2500 a month and he his is about 100x100 and has tecno in 1 room and 10 to 12-20yd lanes and a nice size front room
thats all u need.:biggrin1:

he's applying for a grant. Free money!............:peace: :peace:

Free money... hmm where can I sign up for this?:biggrin1:

Free money... hmm where can I sign up for this?:biggrin1:

he jokes.........your a good egg Chris, I dont care what Dredly says about you....:D

There was a shop in spooner wisconsin that had 100 yard indoor range. I think it only lasted a year before the owner had to sell everything.

Everyone said build it and they will come. Guess not!

:smokin: Well my sixes maybe off some, But my dream would work out because once I get QSA mfg off the ground and competing in the market place. The basement would be the true reason for the shop. So any range money and store money is just extra income. So if no one shoots the range or buys any thing. No bug deal. So it is the perfect shop and range.:smokin:

:smokin: Well my sixes maybe off some, But my dream would work out because once I get QSA mfg off the ground and competing in the market place. The basement would be the true reason for the shop. So any range money and store money is just extra income. So if no one shoots the range or buys any thing. No bug deal. So it is the perfect shop and range.:smokin:

so your not gonna vacume???:lol: :lol:

In todays world I hate to say it, it will never happen......the rich, get richer and EVERYONE ELSE gets poorer......

A couple yrs ago,our local proshop leased a building that was aprox a 150' long and 60'wide and had an indoor range....a techno(sp) hunt and even though there's a lot of archers/bow hunters where i live....only lasted a year.To many things can go wrong.....You can't charge people alot just to shoot their bow or they won't come....once winter is over,most are doing something else....fishing or something.The only way i can see something like this working is if you already had a bulding on your property and it was all paid off,than maybe it would work.Other than.....it's risky at best.

It would be fun while it lasted!:cool:

I am trying to find out what I need to get a grant to start a business. One of the things I need to figure out is "How big do I need my building to be"? I was thinking of going with a 300' by 300' 2 story building so I can do the pop-up archery upstairs and a smaller range downstairs for tuning bows. I would also like to do sales and sevice in the downstairs portion. Would this be too big?? Someone told me that a building that is 300' by 120' would be plenty big enough. What do you guys and girls think is the right size??? Let me know and this would help me out greatly.

Hmmmmm! (300x300=90000 sq. ft.) x $75/sq ft = $6,750,000?

Well that's one floor .......