Owner Of A Bow Shop I Patronize, Does Not Advocate The Nock Loop System. He Feels That It's Just Something Else That Can Go Wrong And Uses A Release Off The String...

He Also Advocates A Biscuit Rest, Over All The Drop Down Systems For The Same Reason.

Open To Your Comments.........

Loop. Eliminates torque put on your string by the twisting of your release. Eliminates serving wear from release. If tied correctly, it will not fail.


Biscuit. Nothing wrong with the biscuit for hunting or casual 3D shooting. I would recommend a blade or drop away if you get serious.

Loop. Eliminates torque put on your string by the twisting of your release. Eliminates serving wear from release. If tied correctly, it will not fail.


Biscuit. Nothing wrong with the biscuit for hunting or casual 3D shooting. I would recommend a blade or drop away if you get serious.


My thoughts exactly.

Loop. Eliminates torque put on your string by the twisting of your release. Eliminates serving wear from release. If tied correctly, it will not fail.


Biscuit. Nothing wrong with the biscuit for hunting or casual 3D shooting. I would recommend a blade or drop away if you get serious.

hey Justin, when did you get so smart???:D

hey Justin, when did you get so smart???:D

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night....... :noidea: :noidea:

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night....... :noidea: :noidea:

sweet, so diagnose my neck pain.........:frusty:

sweet, so diagnose my neck pain.........:frusty:

I would suggest reducing the amount of contact you have with Bullfiddle and Two Shoes. I imagine they are the pain in your neck......:noidea:

I would suggest reducing the amount of contact you have with Bullfiddle and Two Shoes. I imagine they are the pain in your neck......:noidea:

you know you are a smart guy..........:D

sweet, so diagnose my neck pain.........:frusty:

You beat your head against that brick wall too much........:noidea:

You beat your head against that brick wall too much........:noidea:

these guys, make me nuts sometimes.......

Owner Of A Bow Shop I Patronize, Does Not Advocate The Nock Loop System. He Feels That It's Just Something Else That Can Go Wrong And Uses A Release Off The String...

He Also Advocates A Biscuit Rest, Over All The Drop Down Systems For The Same Reason.

Open To Your Comments.........

Sounds like he's old school and hasnt caught up to the 2008.. the Biscuit is good for hunting. But not serious 3d or spots. To much arrows and fletching contact for my taste. I'll take a Trophy Taker over a bisciut any day.. hunting or target shhoting. and the loop is a way to keep string square. I've seen arrows fall off strings and get dry fired from the string nocks squeezing the arrow almost all the way off the string. And watching the arow hit the ground as the guy squeezed the release off. loop all the way for me. Or at least loop on the release. Servings take a beating from jaws eating them.

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night....... :noidea: :noidea:

Then I am with him

for hunting i shoot off of the string. i just like being able to hook up really quick to the string. i use a brass nock on top and an e button bellow to keep from pinching the nock. for 3D and spots though i use a loop.

You know what i use.:frusty:
Thats because im hard headed just like th guy that owns that shop.:lol:
I say u go old timmer.:rockon:
Nothing wrong with shooting off the serving, but if ya do use a rope release.
We did for years before the loops came out.
I dont like that bisquit because some times i shoot instintive if a deer gets up and stands there for a quick shot i throw the bow up and look down the shaft at 20yds or less, i taught myself that way.
After setting up my hunting bow i learned along time ago to grab the string with my bare hands 3 fingers underneath and shoot down the shaft the same way i shoot my recurve.
Try it is cool.
I dont think i could do this with the biscquit i couldnt see down the shaft!:noidea:

You know what i use.:frusty:
Thats because im hard headed just like th guy that owns that shop.:lol:
I say u go old timmer.:rockon:
Nothing wrong with shooting off the serving, but if ya do use a rope release.
We did for years before the loops came out.
I dont like that bisquit because some times i shoot instintive if a deer gets up and stands there for a quick shot i throw the bow up and look down the shaft at 20yds or less, i taught myself that way.
After setting up my hunting bow i learned along time ago to grab the string with my bare hands 3 fingers underneath and shoot down the shaft the same way i shoot my recurve.
Try it is cool.
I dont think i could do this with the biscquit i couldnt see down the shaft!:noidea:

And make sure to keep your powder dry and your hatchet sharpened.....:biggrin1: :biggrin1: :biggrin1:

2 Posts and you guys hijack a brand new members thread.

REAL NICE!!:frusty:

2 Posts and you guys hijack a brand new members thread.

REAL NICE!!:frusty:

There are 5 opinions to answer his question. What did you add to the thread?

There are 5 opinions to answer his question. What did you add to the thread?

Nothing, sorry to have questioned one of the BRASS??

Nothing, sorry to have questioned one of the BRASS??

:pound: :pound:

I'm not brass, but I did look at your past posts and I'd say more than a couple were off topic....:cool:

That is the personality of this site. We answer the questions and have fun in the process.......:biggrin1:

I shoot a loop release and a trophy taker drop away. Anything that touches the arrow is going to slow it down. And the wisker biscuit creates a lot of friction. Accuracy will improve with a dropaway also.

Man I didnt relize people still shot bows without loops???? I shoot much better with a drop away than a WB. I could never get my bow to paper tune out of a WB. Just my .02 cents.

Owner Of A Bow Shop I Patronize, Does Not Advocate The Nock Loop System. He Feels That It's Just Something Else That Can Go Wrong And Uses A Release Off The String...

He Also Advocates A Biscuit Rest, Over All The Drop Down Systems For The Same Reason.

Open To Your Comments.........

If he's worried about things that could go wrong, why is he using a release:noidea: ? If he uses his fingers then that would mean that there would be one less thing that could go wrong. I don't worry a whole lot about what may go wrong, if I did then I wouldn't be able to sleep:doh:

I would put a loop on the string. it's a better system. if your peep sight changes some you can move the loop to get it right untill you can get to a bow press. and I have never had one come loose. as for the W.B I dont like them. to much drag on arrow. I use a trophy taker and never had any problems with it. the only advantage to a W.B would be if you had to turn the bow upside down to get a shot. :biggrin1:

2 Posts and you guys hijack a brand new members thread.

REAL NICE!!:frusty:

...chill man, this isnt AT. No need to snap. :usa:

To the OP...
Check around with some other shops in your area. You're gonna want the loop...and Im surprised the shop owner hasnt gotten with the know. I wouldnt want that cat installing jack on my rig.

The loop is a beautiful thing and its been widely accepted by most all modern archers/hunters for good reason. ...and nothing is going wrong with a properly installed loop.

As far as the WB goes, imo its a great hunting rest inside 40yds and all you'll probably ever need on whitetails. I love mine and will agree with the shop owner on that one. Very accurate, no moving parts, full containment, and no noticeable speed dif when shooting. It might love a few fps thru a chrono...but you're not gonna see it killing foam.

Get the loop, the WB, and a different shop to service your bow. ...imo :wink:

Owner Of A Bow Shop I Patronize, Does Not Advocate The Nock Loop System. He Feels That It's Just Something Else That Can Go Wrong And Uses A Release Off The String...

He Also Advocates A Biscuit Rest, Over All The Drop Down Systems For The Same Reason.

Open To Your Comments.........

:welcome: to the forum. Great having you with us. Get yourself a loop tied correctly. And the WB is the best rest on the market for hunting.:peace: Dropaways are also great rests, the one thing about hunting with them is I like the containment that I get with the Ripcord dropaway. Good luck and have fun. :peace:

...chill man, this isnt AT. No need to snap. :usa:


Sorry man...just playing wif ya. It was more of a shot at AT. :doh:

I prefer not to shoot with a loop,I shoot as good without one as I did with one but to each his own if you want to try a loop then go ahead and try one many shooters use them.

If you are shooting a string loop, is it necessary to have one (or in some cases two) nocks as well? seems like the string loop would put too much pressure on the nocks and cause them to slide.

Thanks.

If you are shooting a string loop, is it necessary to have one (or in some cases two) nocks as well? seems like the string loop would put too much pressure on the nocks and cause them to slide.

Thanks.

Tim....:welcome: to the forum and no if a string loop is tied correctly there is no need for a metal nock at all just the loop...:D

Tim....:welcome: to the forum and no if a string loop is tied correctly there is no need for a metal nock at all just the loop...:D

Fantastic. Just bought a bow and the pro shop put 2 nocks on it. I wasn't sure about loops at the time. Is there a good illustration anywhere on how to tie loops?

hey Justin, when did you get so smart???:D

He's the string maker/creator, he's supposed to know these things. :peace:

Fantastic. Just bought a bow and the pro shop put 2 nocks on it. I wasn't sure about loops at the time. Is there a good illustration anywhere on how to tie loops?

Here's a link with some good photos...http://www.bowhunting.net/artman/publish/ConradDLoop.shtml