Slippy
01-29-2008, 12:31 PM
any reason why I can't use liquid cement? What do all you use?
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View Full Version : insert glue Slippy 01-29-2008, 12:31 PM any reason why I can't use liquid cement? What do all you use? jcmorgan31 01-29-2008, 12:33 PM I use goat tuff. I'd think the chute of the mixing truck would be too big to get the cement into the shaft???? :noidea: bullfiddle 01-29-2008, 12:34 PM I use goat tuff. I'd think the chute of the mixing truck would be too big to get the cement into the shaft???? :noidea: not if it were a pumper truck?...:noidea: jcmorgan31 01-29-2008, 12:37 PM not if it were a pumper truck?...:noidea: Dude... the hose is at least 4" across. How you gonna control that into a .345" shaft??? :noidea: Slippy 01-29-2008, 12:56 PM I use goat tuff. I'd think the chute of the mixing truck would be too big to get the cement into the shaft???? :noidea: Fletching glue doesn't seem to be strong enough. And as far as the cement truck chute, you run a long straw similar to what they inseminate horses with (its called a pipette) from the chute to the arrow shaft so you don't get a bunch of spillage. jcmorgan31 01-29-2008, 01:12 PM Fletching glue doesn't seem to be strong enough. And as far as the cement truck chute, you run a long straw similar to what they inseminate horses with from the chute to the arrow shaft so you don't get a bunch of spillage. I didn't realize Goat Tuff was designed for fletchings. I use Fletch Tite Platinum for fletching. Some use hot melt for tips. I guarantee you Goat Tuff works better then wax. Some use epoxys also. Seems like extra work to me. Maybe if you were pulling arrows out of foam instead of trees, glue would be good enough.....:biggrin1: BUNNYMAN 01-29-2008, 01:12 PM Fletching glue doesn't seem to be strong enough. And as far as the cement truck chute, you run a long straw similar to what they inseminate horses with (its called a pipette) from the chute to the arrow shaft so you don't get a bunch of spillage. HOW you know this stuff is beyond me.......... :dizzy: :dizzy: I mean come on dude, its down right weird:noidea: BUNNYMAN 01-29-2008, 01:13 PM I didn't realize Goat Tuff was designed for fletchings. I use Fletch Tite Platinum for fletching. Some use hot melt for tips. I guarantee you Goat Tuff works better then wax. Some use epoxys also. Seems like extra work to me. Maybe you were pulling arrows out of foam instead of trees, glue would be good enough.....:biggrin1: it was the WIND he swears it was:noidea: :noidea: :noidea: Slippy 01-29-2008, 01:30 PM I didn't realize Goat Tuff was designed for fletchings. I use Fletch Tite Platinum for fletching. I don't know what Goat Tuff was designed for but a lot of people use it for fletching. I too use fletchtite platinum from Bohning after I found out thats what you use and I know how awesome you are so I got some myself. I use liquid cement for both the nocks and the inserts and I use Elmers pre-school glue sticks for my arrow wraps. bullfiddle 01-29-2008, 01:44 PM Dude... the hose is at least 4" across. How you gonna control that into a .345" shaft??? :noidea: You ever heard of Ace Hardware they got all kinds of fittings to throttle that bad boy down...:noidea: Hook Em 01-29-2008, 01:49 PM I use Goat Tuff for fletching and inserts/tips. It is good stuff, but not cheap. You can get some comparable stuff at hobby stores for much less cash. They sell the hobby glue at my shop now, but I still have goat tuff left to use up! jcmorgan31 01-29-2008, 02:15 PM I don't know what Goat Tuff was designed for but a lot of people use it for fletching. I too use fletchtite platinum from Bohning after I found out thats what you use and I know how awesome you are so I got some myself. I use liquid cement for both the nocks and the inserts and I use Elmers pre-school glue sticks for my arrow wraps. Who told you??? :noidea: :noidea: dodgensince74 01-29-2008, 02:19 PM I use goat tuff for my inserts and it works great. I put some inserts in my arrows and by the time I got out to the range which was about 45 minutes they were good to go. I did not loose one insert:rockon: Slippy 01-29-2008, 02:39 PM Who told you??? :noidea: :noidea: heard it on tv. Hook, whats this "hobby glue" you speak of? Is that anything like huffing paint thinner? jdawg240 01-29-2008, 02:41 PM You guys need to all do yourself a favor and use Pine Ridge for everything...NO BS :rockon: J.C. 01-29-2008, 02:42 PM You guys need to all do yourself a favor and use Pine Ridge for everything...NO BS :rockon: that's what I use. It's cheap.........:peace: Slippy 01-29-2008, 02:48 PM I get the fletchtite on clearance for like $2.50. Take that...BAM!! Hook Em 01-29-2008, 02:49 PM heard it on tv. Hook, whats this "hobby glue" you speak of? Is that anything like huffing paint thinner? Sorry...I only huff Krylon products Slippy 01-29-2008, 02:52 PM Sorry...I only huff Krylon products You mean Crayons? I have one kid who eats crayons and his brother eats playdough. jcmorgan31 01-29-2008, 03:03 PM heard it on tv. Hook, whats this "hobby glue" you speak of? Is that anything like huffing paint thinner? I was on TV???? :faint2: Hook Em 01-29-2008, 03:08 PM You mean Crayons? I have one kid who eats crayons and his brother eats playdough. mmmmmmmm Paste BuckeyeRed 01-29-2008, 03:28 PM Try Bohning PowerBond. It's specifically made for inserts for both carbon or aluminum. Works great for me anyhow. BowhuntnHoosier 01-29-2008, 05:41 PM I use super glue for inserts. Fletchtite or Saunders for fletching. I have some fantastic hotmelt for aluminum inserts. Hey HCAman you got any left???:lol: UltraElite 06 01-29-2008, 08:51 PM Gold Tip tipgrip quick set glue works great for inserts. QSA 01-29-2008, 09:01 PM I use goat tuff. I'd think the chute of the mixing truck would be too big to get the cement into the shaft???? :noidea: Hey Justin go to a hobby shop and ask for CA+ Glue. They use it to build RC airplanes. Sam e glue but you can get a bug bottle for the same price as a little bottle of Goat Tuff. QSA 01-29-2008, 09:07 PM well after reading all of this Hooks it is called CA+ glue. I got some goat tuff and fletched some arrows and the glue smelled like the same glue I used when I flow RC airplanes. It is CA+ glue. You can also get accelerator and slow dry CA-. QSA 01-29-2008, 09:09 PM Here is a link to Tower Hobbies glue section. 4oz for the cost of a 1/4 oz of goat tuff http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0093p?&C=RGC Slippy 01-30-2008, 04:12 PM :bump: .... Holy Smokes 01-30-2008, 04:21 PM heard it on tv. Hook, whats this "hobby glue" you speak of? Is that anything like huffing paint thinner? :cool: :p :bowl: :madgrin: :faint: :hippie: beenfarr 01-30-2008, 05:00 PM :cool: :p :bowl: :madgrin: :faint: :hippie: While we're on the subject of glue smells! Something about the smell of Testors model glue brings me back to being 10...and then 19 briefly. :lol: Ben rock monkey 01-30-2008, 05:55 PM just about any gel superglue would work good for fletching. i just did up my fatboys and used loctite superglue gel. superglues i have used for fletching and would recommend: bondini bond everything gel maxi-cure red (hobby store) zap gel (hobby store) loctite pro superglue (liquid) cyber 07 aae fastest set gel if you're goin to a hobby store, just tell the guy what you're gonna be gluing, and he'll hook ya up. i just get the smaller quantity of stuff because i dont go thru it fast enuff before it goes bad. for inserts, depends on the shaft. for carbons: bohning power-bond (a polyurethane glue with an accelerant) 24 hr, 2part epoxy gorilla/rhino/elmer's ultimate (all pretty much the same thing, a poly-urethane glue) glues i havent tried but will in the future, liquid nails and jb weld. jb weld would work great in a/c/c's. a friend used jb for his and never had a problem. for aluminum, cant beat amber hotmelt. best stuff out there. ive tried using superglues for inserts in carbons, and they just wouldnt hold. could have been from using thin walled carbons in aggressive bales. switched to gorilla glue, never had a problem. as with any glue, prep is the big thing. clean the insert and shaft of all dust. QSA 01-30-2008, 06:56 PM just about any gel superglue would work good for fletching. i just did up my fatboys and used loctite superglue gel. superglues i have used for fletching and would recommend: bondini bond everything gel maxi-cure red (hobby store) zap gel (hobby store) loctite pro superglue (liquid) cyber 07 aae fastest set gel if you're goin to a hobby store, just tell the guy what you're gonna be gluing, and he'll hook ya up. i just get the smaller quantity of stuff because i dont go thru it fast enuff before it goes bad. for inserts, depends on the shaft. for carbons: bohning power-bond (a polyurethane glue with an accelerant) 24 hr, 2part epoxy gorilla/rhino/elmer's ultimate (all pretty much the same thing, a poly-urethane glue) glues i havent tried but will in the future, liquid nails and jb weld. jb weld would work great in a/c/c's. a friend used jb for his and never had a problem. for aluminum, cant beat amber hotmelt. best stuff out there. ive tried using superglues for inserts in carbons, and they just wouldnt hold. could have been from using thin walled carbons in aggressive bales. switched to gorilla glue, never had a problem. as with any glue, prep is the big thing. clean the insert and shaft of all dust. I just told you what to ask for CA+ RC airplane glue. Doc Holliday 01-30-2008, 07:45 PM I use the amber hot melt in mine. I shoot aluminums. If I have any problems, I'll prolly just man up, drill a hole through them and use ARP head bolts and nuts. :D dodgensince74 01-30-2008, 07:58 PM I use the amber hot melt in mine. I shoot aluminums. If I have any problems, I'll prolly just man up, drill a hole through them and use ARP head bolts and nuts. :D just use thier rod bolts, that way you don't have to drill such a big hole:laugh: rock monkey 01-30-2008, 08:01 PM i gave product names. there's been a few hobby shops ive been in that are about as sharp as marbles, this way he has a few product names to throw at em. the only wonder i have about liquid nails is how it deals with shock like target impacts. Doc Holliday 01-30-2008, 08:02 PM just use thier rod bolts, that way you don't have to drill such a big hole:laugh: My wife keeps telling me that size DOES matter. :noidea: QSA 01-30-2008, 08:14 PM i gave product names. there's been a few hobby shops ive been in that are about as sharp as marbles, this way he has a few product names to throw at em. the only wonder i have about liquid nails is how it deals with shock like target impacts. zap is a good brand but also store brand is the same thing CA+ is CA+ I am going to order a 4 oz bottle from the link I posted Tower Hobbie. QSA 01-30-2008, 08:15 PM My wife keeps telling me that size DOES matter. :noidea: You know what they say. A 20 pound sledge hammer is worthless if you do not know how to swing it. So a 10 pounder will do the same if used right. Tommy2993 02-01-2008, 01:00 PM any reason why I can't use liquid cement? What do all you use? I will use what ever Slippy uses,if it can stick a mean v link to Slippy's signature, it will more than work for me. Did you and Dan bury the hatchet? J.C. 02-01-2008, 01:03 PM You know what they say. A 20 pound sledge hammer is worthless if you do not know how to swing it. So a 10 pounder will do the same if used right. what if you only have a 16 oz. ball peen hammer?.....:noidea: :Cry: two_shoes 02-01-2008, 02:52 PM I just told you what to ask for CA+ RC airplane glue. Love the medium set CA! LWM 02-01-2008, 07:14 PM 5 dollar hot melt stick, probably glued in 50 dozen inserts over the past couple years and still have half the stick, never lost a insert. Who glues in nocks:dizzy: BUNNYMAN 02-01-2008, 07:15 PM 5 dollar hot melt stick, probably glued in 50 dozen inserts over the past couple years and still have half the stick, never lost a insert. Who glues in nocks:dizzy: I do........but only In Accordance With The Prophecy.......... dodgensince74 02-01-2008, 07:58 PM I do........but only In Accordance With The Prophecy.......... Please enlighten us:amen: LWM 02-02-2008, 08:35 AM I do........but only In Accordance With The Prophecy.......... OK I leavem as sometimes a small nock adjustment is needed to get a arrow tuned. If they are loose sometimes the baggie trick works good. BUNNYMAN 02-02-2008, 08:36 AM Please enlighten us:amen: I would, but its not, In Accordance With The Prophecy.............:noidea: STRO 02-02-2008, 08:55 AM any reason why I can't use liquid cement? What do all you use? I use this glue from Alpine Ridge. It is just like goat tuff but about half the price. This stuff is awesome, I use it for everything and have never had any problems, unles I am trying to get an insert out.. ecmbowhunter 02-02-2008, 09:21 AM You ever heard of Ace Hardware they got all kinds of fittings to throttle that bad boy down...:noidea:Yeah, but the problem with that is once you get it "throttled down" you're looking at 2,000 psi coming from the nozzle :D BUNNYMAN 02-02-2008, 09:38 AM Yeah, but the problem with that is once you get it "throttled down" you're looking at 2,000 psi coming from the nozzle :D :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: bullfiddle 02-02-2008, 10:44 AM Yeah, but the problem with that is once you get it "throttled down" you're looking at 2,000 psi coming from the nozzle :D Yah it takes a little getting used to...:noidea: HCAman 02-02-2008, 05:51 PM I use super glue for inserts. Fletchtite or Saunders for fletching. I have some fantastic hotmelt for aluminum inserts. Hey HCAman you got any left???:lol: Just found this post, Yeah I got an ammo can full!!! |