Just wondering....when you put on a sight with the bubble level, do you have to make sure it is level with the bow, or does the mounts just make it level?

How do you level the level?

Wheely,
Ya gotta put the bow in a bow vise and level off the string. Forward, backwards, left and right. Then level the site using the adjustments from there. Setting the third plane adjustment on your site is a little more difficult. Maybe some one will chime in with a good set of instructions on how to set the third plane. I know there is a couple ways to do it but I am not sure how to explain it..:doh:

Wheely,
Ya gotta put the bow in a bow vise and level off the string. Forward, backwards, left and right. Then level the site using the adjustments from there. Setting the third plane adjustment on your site is a little more difficult. Maybe some one will chime in with a good set of instructions on how to set the third plane. I know there is a couple ways to do it but I am not sure how to explain it..:doh:

3rd Axis???:laugh:

Randy Ulmer says the best way to set third "plane" :D is shoot uphill and downhill. hold your bow level according to the bubble, shoot a group. If the center of the group is left or right, make a small adjustment and try it again. keep doing this until the group is hitting where you aim on both level and sloped ground. or you could do the old weighted string trick.

Wheely,
Ya gotta put the bow in a bow vise and level off the string. Forward, backwards, left and right. Then level the site using the adjustments from there. Setting the third plane adjustment on your site is a little more difficult. Maybe some one will chime in with a good set of instructions on how to set the third plane. I know there is a couple ways to do it but I am not sure how to explain it..:doh:
Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........
Hey Junior if ya got something to help out feel free to post up. But if your just here to make an a$$ of yourself you have accomplished it...:wave:

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........

Please enlighten us. I am sure your know how is inmeasuerable, In this and all things.

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........

Is this post your idea of how staff shooters should present themselves? I bet your sponsors are glad you dont list them in your signature line.

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........

I rarely post here, mostly like to lurk, read and learn... but I just read this post and felt strongly enough to say........Dude!!, YOU just gave Staff shooters a bad name with that response!! I would rather have someone be honest and say let somebody else who can explain better show you, so it comes out right, than to be spoken down to by an obvious know-it-all like yourself.

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........

ARE YOU DONE? :bored:

or would you like to continue making a DONKEY of yourself....

I think this might be an UNWARENTED PERSONAL ATTACK.......

Maybe the person you are so quik to pass judgement on, was letting someone else answer the question as they felt another could do it better......

HOW DID YOU HELP THE SITUATION???

YOU DIDNT......you resulted to "name calling and finger pointing"

when I replied to the question, I was joking and FIDDLE knew that.....

way to go on your second post......

YOU MUST BE ONE HELL OF A GUY TO HANG AROUND......:puke: :puke:

I just figured it out boys and girls........


he is from Jersey.......they post, like they drive......

I choose staff shooters based on a few things that I personally consider important. Not one of those requirements is to be a bow tech. They all revolve around personality and attitude. The majority of my shooters probably can't build a string.

I choose staff shooters based on a few things that I personally consider important. Not one of those requirements is to be a bow tech. They all revolve around personality and attitude. The majority of my shooters probably can't build a string.

I can and have......:wave:

just saying.......

I can and have......:wave:

just saying.......
But your Bunnyman we would expect nothing less?....:eyebrows: :eyebrows: :eyebrows:

Since it seems I'm working on earning a badge anyway: You're centainly off to a good start; Fiddle didn't deserve that and as you can see this sort of thing doesn't sit too well on here even with the ordinary members.

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........

I got a couple billboards to advertise on :lol: :pound: :pound:

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

Since it seems I'm working on earning a badge anyway: You're centainly off to a good start; Fiddle didn't deserve that and as you can see this sort of thing doesn't sit too well on here even with the ordinary members.

Ordinary??
Were you refering to me? I hope so.......It might be the nicest way I've ever been referred to!

Ordinary??
Were you refering to me? I hope so.......It might be the nicest way I've ever been referred to!


Yeah I debated with myself about using that word for anyone on here. :decision:

I got a couple billboards to advertise on :lol: :pound: :pound:

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

sweet.......:rockon: :rockon:

Ummm not quit getting the 3rd axis thing. But am curios to learn more. Anybody got one of them "links" that might explain it more. Maybe a picture would help get it through my thick head.

Ummm not quit getting the 3rd axis thing. But am curios to learn more. Anybody got one of them "links" that might explain it more. Maybe a picture would help get it through my thick head.

this is a good one for the "How To" section:peace:

Ummm not quit getting the 3rd axis thing. But am curios to learn more. Anybody got one of them "links" that might explain it more. Maybe a picture would help get it through my thick head.

click linky and scroll down......:wave: :wave:

http://www.huntersfriend.com/sight-selection-guide/compound-bow-sight-help.htm

Well there.... Now I know thanksssssssssssss..........:rockon:

Your a staff shooter for a few companies and you don't know what 3rd axis is or how to explain it? Dude....you give other staff shooters a bad name. No wonder guys complain we are just billboards to get discounted items. At least some of us know what we are talking about and have the exp. to talk with other shooters and explain to them in detail so they can understand. Wish I could say the same about you........
I'm STILL waiting for the flash of enlightenment foreshadowed by this incredibly wanky post. You didn't ask the question OR answer it...didn't add anything constructive OR interesting to the conversation, and just wasted the time of many of us. Thank God Chris doesn't tolerate that crap. If that post it typical of your attitude...you're days are numbered, mate.

Now, so I'm not doing the same, this is what I've read from Nuts & Bolts over at AT:

2ND AXIS

2nd axis on your sight is basically making sure the bubble level
on your sight reads level when the bow is vertical.

This presumes that your string is vertical when the bow is also vertical.
You essentially figure a way to hold your bow vertical (use a bow vise),
and then check to see that your bubble level in the sight is also reading vertical.

If not, then adjust the bubble level with the 2nd axis adjustment,
to make the bubble level on your sight read level, when the bow and bowstring are vertical.

3RD AXIS

Ok, so now we understand what 2nd axis is on your sight.

So, what is 3rd axis?

Remember your sight ring is on a threaded rod?

Well, what if the entire sight ring was mounted on a door hinge?

Yup. What if the entire sight ring could swing like a door?
You could swing the door towards you or away from you.

Well, let's say we swing the door towards you 45 degrees.
The bubble level still reads level, i.e., the threaded rod is still horizontal.

You know what will happen on a steep uphill shot?
Even if you aim uphill, and your bow is not tilted left or right,
the bubble level will lie to you and force you to tilt your bow.

Try this with a 24-inch level. Hold the level in your hand so that it is still horizontal, but the angle between the level and your arm is 45 degrees, as if you swung a door towards you. Raise your arm towards the ceiling.
The bubble level will not stay in the middle.

Adjust the third axis on your sight is the same as adjust the door swing so that it is 90 degrees.

HOW TO ADJUST 3RD AXIS



3rd axis will affect uphill shots (NFAA field rounds) or downhill shots (from a treestand).

Imagine that your sight ring is a door. If you bump your sight ring into a tree, the sight ring may bend towards you like swinging a door closer to your face. Let's say the sight ring "door" opened towards you 45-degrees. The bubble still reads level when you hold the riser straight up and down.

Now, hang a weighted string from the ceiling.
Kneel down on your knees, load an arrow in a safe spot, come to full draw and anchor.
Line up the weighted string with the left edge of the riser and your limbs.

Take a look at the bubble.
The riser and limbs are vertical because you are lined up with the weighted string.
If the sight ring threaded rod is bent towards you or away from you,
the bubble will not read level even though you are not canting the bow.

Adjusting the 3rd axis of a bow restores the sight ring door swing
back to 90 degrees, perpendicular to the sight frame.
The best way to check is kneeling down on your knees,
aiming up at a weighted string hanging from the ceiling.

If your sight has 3rd axis adjustment, then adjust away.

If you sight does not have 3rd axis adjustment,
you will need to use shims to adjust the entire sight or just the sight ring.

I got a couple billboards to advertise on :lol: :pound: :pound:

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

MANLAW must see pictures.

Well Wheely at least this Thread got back on track (I was a little worried) Hope you got your 3rd axis set.