SinGin
08-29-2008, 05:43 PM
Well Guys what do you think? As a Republican this is the first thing McCain has done to make me want to vote for him.
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View Full Version : McCain / Palin SinGin 08-29-2008, 05:43 PM Well Guys what do you think? As a Republican this is the first thing McCain has done to make me want to vote for him. scottg 08-29-2008, 06:24 PM I am non-party, but there is no way in :censored: I would vote for Obama. I like Palin and I think that she has more experience at cecision making than Obama and Biden put together. Obama has 143 days of experience "TOTAL". That is all the time that he has spent in session. McCain / Palin have my vote, hands down. BowhuntnHoosier 08-29-2008, 07:38 PM Heck was votin for him before he just sweetened the pot more in my opinion. GO McCain/Palin. Holy Smokes 08-29-2008, 07:44 PM Boys I am gonna vote fer em anyway I really do not cherish tha thought of a woman vep if he checks out on us shes in charge I know that women operate on fellings and men on guts:peace: Wheely 08-29-2008, 07:46 PM Boys I am gonna vote fer em anyway I really do not cherish tha thought of a woman vep if he checks out on us shes in charge I know that women operate on fellings and men on guts:peace: Not true....I have met many men that are not gay that are worse than women :doh: brokenarrow 08-29-2008, 07:50 PM I think she's an excellent choice... Holy Smokes 08-29-2008, 07:53 PM Not true....I have met many men that are not gay that are worse than women :doh: I knew this was gonna happen still my thoughts on it. BowhuntnHoosier 08-29-2008, 08:01 PM I think she's an excellent choice... You a very smart guy.......... Chris 08-29-2008, 08:05 PM I'm not sure who I am voting for. I have two questions for each candidate. What are you going to do about the immigration problem? What are you going to do about the economy? Everything else is fluff. Holy Smokes 08-29-2008, 08:10 PM I'm not sure who I am voting for. I have two questions for each candidate. What are you going to do about the immigration problem? What are you going to do about the economy? Everything else is fluff. I really do not think your gonna like either ons response I heard so many lies last night that I got sick to my stumack and Mr Gore took tha cake.::bowl: TEN RING 08-29-2008, 08:11 PM I'm not sure who I am voting for. I have two questions for each candidate. What are you going to do about the immigration problem? What are you going to do about the economy? Everything else is fluff. And the answer to your first question is: NOTHING The answer to your second question is : NOTHING Chris 08-29-2008, 09:00 PM And the answer to your first question is: NOTHING The answer to your second question is : NOTHING That's what I'm afraid of. scottg 08-29-2008, 09:16 PM I can't see any of them doing anything about immagration. Too many votes to loose by doing that. 12 million and counting. wheresmyarrow 08-30-2008, 06:56 AM I've got to admit, I did not see that one coming. I was expecting him to pick someone a good bit younger to appeal to the younger crowd but I honestly didn't think about it being a woman. I think it was an excellent choice but we'll know for sure come November. scottg 08-30-2008, 07:29 AM I love the idea of a gun totin hockey mom. All reports say that she will stand up to Wahsington and stand up for what is right. I do have to ask the ones that say that she don't have the experience for the job. Where do you get that kind of experience? There is only one job like that in the world. We are not talking about a CEO changing companies. I would think that being Govenor would make her more quilified for the job, than a man with only 143 days in the Senate and he is running for the big cheese spot. We need someone that will make rational decissions for the good of the country. We need someone that will stand up to other countries and the terrorist. We need someone that will do something about the immagration problem. I do not feel that we need universal healthcare. That will only bring down the quaility of healthcare. The government would put a cap on what doctors charged and that would not be good. We someone that will help us get our energy situtation straight. We have waited too long to start drilling now. We should have done that years ago. We just don't have the ability to drill anymore than we are drilling now. We just don't have the rigs to do more drilling. We are building more, but only 1 out of 10-20 is going to drill in the U.S. That is not enough to make a difference. brokenarrow 08-30-2008, 10:35 AM You a very smart guy.......... That's what I've been telling you...:noidea: :biggrin1: brokenarrow 08-30-2008, 10:36 AM I love the idea of a gun totin hockey mom. All reports say that she will stand up to Wahsington and stand up for what is right. I do have to ask the ones that say that she don't have the experience for the job. Where do you get that kind of experience? There is only one job like that in the world. We are not talking about a CEO changing companies. I would think that being Govenor would make her more quilified for the job, than a man with only 143 days in the Senate and he is running for the big cheese spot. We need someone that will make rational decissions for the good of the country. We need someone that will stand up to other countries and the terrorist. We need someone that will do something about the immagration problem. I do not feel that we need universal healthcare. That will only bring down the quaility of healthcare. The government would put a cap on what doctors charged and that would not be good. We someone that will help us get our energy situtation straight. We have waited too long to start drilling now. We should have done that years ago. We just don't have the ability to drill anymore than we are drilling now. We just don't have the rigs to do more drilling. We are building more, but only 1 out of 10-20 is going to drill in the U.S. That is not enough to make a difference. Amen...:usa: :usa: :usa: BowhuntnHoosier 08-30-2008, 03:45 PM That's what I've been telling you...:noidea: :biggrin1: I know I know..........I'll listen next time. maybe.. MagnifiedFur 08-31-2008, 08:16 AM I normally stay away from posts that concern politics,but hey we all have a voice... I think Oboma is so far left wing he scares the left wing...THATS A FACT... I think McCain has a track record that is rite in line with my beliefs and views but at the same time,I still have questions... Neither Canidate has really impressed my socks off to be honest...I wish we had better choices... On the economy,what kind of jobs can either create? If they are talking $8 dollar a hour jobs,thats already been done by the Clinton's and they seemed to be short term... Off Shore Drilling,boy Obama really changed his mind fast...We I hope they go with Congress on this one,70% of Congress wants to tap into our own Oil...They already know where it is,all they have to do is set-up and drill... My thoughts= As soon as they start drilling Oil will drop oversea's and will show at the pump instantly...We were talking about drilling and prices dropped...The Oil companies overseas do not want to lose our money but at the same time,I think we should keep Americas money in America,It takes money to make money and create better jobs for American families... What happened to the days when one man could support his family and have the American dream? We need better paying jobs and lower health care !!! Why do most American families have both spouses working to make ends meat?I believe in working american women,but what if they want to stay home and raise their children? My wife is a Teacher but couldnt make it on a Teachers pay,Wake up White House,something is wrong !!!! scottg 08-31-2008, 08:34 AM I normally stay away from posts that concern politics,but hey we all have a voice... I think Oboma is so far left wing he scares the left wing...THATS A FACT... I think McCain has a track record that is rite in line with my beliefs and views but at the same time,I still have questions... Neither Canidate has really impressed my socks off to be honest...I wish we had better choices... On the economy,what kind of jobs can either create? If they are talking $8 dollar a hour jobs,thats already been done by the Clinton's and they seemed to be short term... Off Shore Drilling,boy Obama really changed his mind fast...We I hope they go with Congress on this one,70% of Congress wants to tap into our own Oil...They already know where it is,all they have to do is set-up and drill... My thoughts= As soon as they start drilling Oil will drop oversea's and will show at the pump instantly...We were talking about drilling and prices dropped...The Oil companies overseas do not want to lose our money but at the same time,I think we should keep Americas money in America,It takes money to make money and create better jobs for American families... What happened to the days when one man could support his family and have the American dream? We need better paying jobs and lower health care !!! Why do most American families have both spouses working to make ends meat?I believe in working american women,but what if they want to stay home and raise their children? My wife is a Teacher but couldnt make it on a Teachers pay,Wake up White House,something is wrong !!!! Talking about drilling and doing the drilling are as far appart as they can be. I am sorry to say that, but it is true. Prices falling with just talk, only goes to show that prices are inflated to begin with. United States drilling rig utilization is at 95%. We can't drill anymore than we are now. I am sorry, but that is just a pipe dream. The problem stems from 5 years ago when the tree huggers started making problems with the drilling in the U.S. The drilling companies started sending the rigs overseas to drill for other countries. The company that I work for took 19 drilling rigs out of the Gulf of Mexico and moved them overseas. There was no work for them in the U.S. Those rigs are locked in long term contracts now and just can't come back. When you have an overseas company willing to pay double what that rig was making in the U.S. Where do you think that rig would go? There is a company that is and has built 5 new drilling rigs right there in Texas. All five have overseas contracts. They will not be drilling in the U.S. That is the sad truth, but true. I worked in the Gulf for 12 years and then they moved my rig overseas and I have been here for the last 5 years with no sight of going back to the Gulf of Mexico. On the other side, the Gulf of Mexico has a vast amount of oil that is just sitting there. Thousands of wells were drilled and capped. Many wells are shut in right now, trying to keep prices up. I know that is shocking, but true. The demand has not changed and the supply has not changed. The prices are the only things that change. There is no shortage of oil for us. Just a shortage on low prices at the pump. MagnifiedFur 08-31-2008, 11:19 AM Talking about drilling and doing the drilling are as far appart as they can be. I am sorry to say that, but it is true. Prices falling with just talk, only goes to show that prices are inflated to begin with. United States drilling rig utilization is at 95%. We can't drill anymore than we are now. I am sorry, but that is just a pipe dream. The problem stems from 5 years ago when the tree huggers started making problems with the drilling in the U.S. The drilling companies started sending the rigs overseas to drill for other countries. The company that I work for took 19 drilling rigs out of the Gulf of Mexico and moved them overseas. There was no work for them in the U.S. Those rigs are locked in long term contracts now and just can't come back. When you have an overseas company willing to pay double what that rig was making in the U.S. Where do you think that rig would go? There is a company that is and has built 5 new drilling rigs right there in Texas. All five have overseas contracts. They will not be drilling in the U.S. That is the sad truth, but true. I worked in the Gulf for 12 years and then they moved my rig overseas and I have been here for the last 5 years with no sight of going back to the Gulf of Mexico. On the other side, the Gulf of Mexico has a vast amount of oil that is just sitting there. Thousands of wells were drilled and capped. Many wells are shut in right now, trying to keep prices up. I know that is shocking, but true. The demand has not changed and the supply has not changed. The prices are the only things that change. There is no shortage of oil for us. Just a shortage on low prices at the pump. You can thank Clinton for that... Ronhop 08-31-2008, 09:14 PM I think she's an excellent choice... Why ? Ron Ronhop 08-31-2008, 09:15 PM Well Guys what do you think? As a Republican this is the first thing McCain has done to make me want to vote for him. Why ? Ron Ronhop 08-31-2008, 09:17 PM I'm not sure who I am voting for. I have two questions for each candidate. What are you going to do about the immigration problem? What are you going to do about the economy? Everything else is fluff. We don't have enough information to make a choice. Emotional opinions without real information about what each candidate and their running mate intends to try and do mean nothing. I think Chris' 2 questions just scratch the surface and both of them are really good ones. Realize that we have not heard the republican side of the story, at all, actually. Just lunch time, water cooler and after work happy hour chit-chat. Objectivity is the goal, not some emotional issues and pressures that this country from being our best. Ron BowhuntnHoosier 08-31-2008, 09:51 PM I'm votin McCain..........cause he is Anti-Abortion and against same sex marriages. There thats my reasons like them or not. scottg 09-01-2008, 07:10 AM Men should marry women Abortion should not be a means of birth control I am not a fan of higher taxes I am for a business making a profit I am for immagration reform and control I am for keeping the war against terrorism out of the U.S. I am not for big government I am for all the drilling that we can do I am for alternative energy (but that takes time to develop) I am for person making money and living the American dream I am pro-gun Obama is none of the above. I don't know everything that McCain is for, but I do know what Obama is not for and that is reason enough for me. Radar 09-01-2008, 08:22 AM I'm votin McCain..........cause he is Anti-Abortion and against same sex marriages. There thats my reasons like them or not. Cha-CHING!!! we have a winner folks. I knew I liked you Hoosier:biggrin1: SinGin 09-01-2008, 12:58 PM Why ? Ron Life long member of the NRA Hunts Moose Pro Life Wants to drill in Alaska and most important, former beauty queen contestant. Palin that is. Not real thrilled about McCain but if they will get elected that means a decent chance of having her in 8 years. scottg 09-01-2008, 01:33 PM Funny how Obama's young supporters have never sold a home and paid a 30% capitol gains tax. I hope that they do one day and then they will see what we have been saying. Wheely 09-01-2008, 02:03 PM We don't have enough information to make a choice. Emotional opinions without real information about what each candidate and their running mate intends to try and do mean nothing. I think Chris' 2 questions just scratch the surface and both of them are really good ones. Realize that we have not heard the republican side of the story, at all, actually. Just lunch time, water cooler and after work happy hour chit-chat. Objectivity is the goal, not some emotional issues and pressures that this country from being our best. Ron It's hard to hear the republican side with Obama being so loud. :lalala: His race has got everyone so stirred up, not many people can just shut up and LISTEN brokenarrow 09-01-2008, 03:32 PM Why ? Ron First and foremost she is a no-nonsense conservative reformist... prolife pro 2nd amendment pro energy indepedence anti-same sex marriag she had the guts to take on the corruption in her own party she has more executive expeirience than Obama and Biden combined and that's enough for me at this point...:usa: rodney482 09-01-2008, 04:01 PM As a diehard sportsman how could you not love her. Best thing McCain has done so far. I just wish it was she that was running for President. I am ready for a common person to be in office at one of the highest levels. goldflinger 09-01-2008, 04:13 PM Talking about drilling and doing the drilling are as far appart as they can be. I am sorry to say that, but it is true. Prices falling with just talk, only goes to show that prices are inflated to begin with. United States drilling rig utilization is at 95%. We can't drill anymore than we are now. I am sorry, but that is just a pipe dream. The problem stems from 5 years ago when the tree huggers started making problems with the drilling in the U.S. The drilling companies started sending the rigs overseas to drill for other countries. The company that I work for took 19 drilling rigs out of the Gulf of Mexico and moved them overseas. There was no work for them in the U.S. Those rigs are locked in long term contracts now and just can't come back. When you have an overseas company willing to pay double what that rig was making in the U.S. Where do you think that rig would go? There is a company that is and has built 5 new drilling rigs right there in Texas. All five have overseas contracts. They will not be drilling in the U.S. That is the sad truth, but true. I worked in the Gulf for 12 years and then they moved my rig overseas and I have been here for the last 5 years with no sight of going back to the Gulf of Mexico. On the other side, the Gulf of Mexico has a vast amount of oil that is just sitting there. Thousands of wells were drilled and capped. Many wells are shut in right now, trying to keep prices up. I know that is shocking, but true. The demand has not changed and the supply has not changed. The prices are the only things that change. There is no shortage of oil for us. Just a shortage on low prices at the pump. The public should know this. Is there any way of verifying this info?? Very interesting stuff... scottg 09-01-2008, 04:44 PM The public should know this. Is there any way of verifying this info?? Very interesting stuff... http://www.rigzone.com/data/utilization_trends.asp Keep in mind that some rigs are in shipyards for repairs and rregulatory inspections. You can search here and see where the rigs are in the world. http://www.rigzone.com/data/rig_reports.asp Ronhop 09-01-2008, 08:22 PM First and foremost she is a no-nonsense conservative reformist... prolife pro 2nd amendment pro energy indepedence anti-same sex marriag she had the guts to take on the corruption in her own party she has more executive expeirience than Obama and Biden combined and that's enough for me at this point...:usa: No offense but what are the candidates actually going to DO ? Pro this and pro that is great, if you buy into what they are pro for. What are they against ? I still don't get it. The GOP digs up a lot of things but do not put forth a plan. And, Obama has not really put forth a plan either. He just happened to get some really great endorsements. So my point still is that we're at an emotional impasse. Look, the same sex marriage issue is a big one, the support of the NRA is a small one, domestic oil is a big one, but voters need to focus on what really matters. In my opinion the biggest issues are: -Dump the NAFTA (which may not be possible in the near future) agreement an get rid of incentives that allow US based companies to utilize overseas labor and import inferior crap. -Obtain the rights to drill for oil on our own land and sever ourself from foreign oil supplies. -Control interest rates and how lenders just 'hand out' credit like it's water. The ARM home loans are just one example. -Force the oil companies not to pay more taxes but to reinvest a % profits into new and inproved infrastructure that can handle 100 MPH winds and NOT have to shut down when a storm is coming in. -Give incentives to grocery retailers to use locally supplied meat and produce. -Get rid of incentives for farmers to not use farm land for a productive yield. -Invest more into using unused farmland to grow grains to produce ethanol and other bio fuels. -Get out of Iraq in a responsible fashion and don't go back. They have a ton of money, they should be on their own by now. I can go on but we need to look at a bigger picture, not losing sight of the smaller important thing though. Which candidate(s) has addressed these issues and what was there response ? Ron Ronhop 09-01-2008, 08:23 PM As a diehard sportsman how could you not love her. Best thing McCain has done so far. I just wish it was she that was running for President. I am ready for a common person to be in office at one of the highest levels. Hey Rod, that's your wife and child ? What great pictures.... Great family pics man. Ron Ronhop 09-01-2008, 08:27 PM It's hard to hear the republican side with Obama being so loud. :lalala: His race has got everyone so stirred up, not many people can just shut up and LISTEN Yeah I know and I'm paying a lot more attention to this one than I have. Obama's deal was a WAY overspending of OUR money. And his speech was average. Hey, I'm posting to open the discussion, I don't know who I'm voting for yet. This is going to be an interesting campaign and election to the end I think. I have way too many questions to ask and not enough answers. Ron scottg 09-01-2008, 09:03 PM No offense but what are the candidates actually going to DO ? Pro this and pro that is great, if you buy into what they are pro for. What are they against ? I still don't get it. The GOP digs up a lot of things but do not put forth a plan. And, Obama has not really put forth a plan either. He just happened to get some really great endorsements. So my point still is that we're at an emotional impasse. Look, the same sex marriage issue is a big one, the support of the NRA is a small one, domestic oil is a big one, but voters need to focus on what really matters. In my opinion the biggest issues are: -Dump the NAFTA (which may not be possible in the near future) agreement an get rid of incentives that allow US based companies to utilize overseas labor and import inferior crap. -Obtain the rights to drill for oil on our own land and sever ourself from foreign oil supplies. -Control interest rates and how lenders just 'hand out' credit like it's water. The ARM home loans are just one example. -Force the oil companies not to pay more taxes but to reinvest a % profits into new and inproved infrastructure that can handle 100 MPH winds and NOT have to shut down when a storm is coming in. -Give incentives to grocery retailers to use locally supplied meat and produce. -Get rid of incentives for farmers to not use farm land for a productive yield. -Invest more into using unused farmland to grow grains to produce ethanol and other bio fuels. -Get out of Iraq in a responsible fashion and don't go back. They have a ton of money, they should be on their own by now. I can go on but we need to look at a bigger picture, not losing sight of the smaller important thing though. Which candidate(s) has addressed these issues and what was there response ? Ron The shut down of the oil rigs is for safety reasons and environmental reasons. Wells are shut down by way of a safety valve several hundred feet below the bottom of the sea floor. If something happens to the rig, no oil will spill. Nobody will stay out there in a storm, I know that I will not. That has been tried and men died. Wells are not drill, hook to pipeline and forget. They produce acording to demand. If a refinery shuts down, the wells need to shut down. There is no place for the oil to go. Oil can be flowing out of the ground at over 5000 psi. The pipe lines that carry that oil are not rated to hold that kind of pressure. Mother nature is to unpredictable and never does the same damage twice. To build a rig to handle anything would cost twice as much to build. The rig would have to work for twice as much. The oil company would have to recoup that money in the oil that they sell. BUNNYMAN 09-01-2008, 09:44 PM Hey Rod, that's your wife and child ? What great pictures.... Great family pics man. Ron Acctually i think that may be Palin....... she is a babe!! rodney482 09-02-2008, 11:05 AM Acctually i think that may be Palin....... she is a babe!! yeah Ron those photos are Palin and her child. My wife is hotter:peace: Chris 09-02-2008, 12:18 PM I'm not pro obama or pro mccain but my concern with McCain is he is pro life. Being a man, I cannot force my beliefs or thoughts on a decision that belongs to a woman not a man. Slippy 09-02-2008, 12:22 PM I'm not pro obama ....... thank gosh. :amen: dbdcougar 09-02-2008, 12:34 PM I'm not pro obama or pro mccain but my concern with McCain is he is pro life. Being a man, I cannot force my beliefs or thoughts on a decision that belongs to a woman not a man. That shows you how far apart the 2 sides on this issue are. As I'm on the pro life side for me it has nothing to do with the woman, she doesn't even enter into it - it has to with the child she is carrying. wheresmyarrow 09-02-2008, 04:40 PM That shows you how far apart the 2 sides on this issue are. As I'm on the pro life side for me it has nothing to do with the woman, she doesn't even enter into it - it has to with the child she is carrying. :amen: ...and given the chance to choose, I believe most of the babies would choose not to be murdered in their mothers womb. dodgensince74 09-02-2008, 04:45 PM No offense but what are the candidates actually going to DO ? Ron IMO, they are going to do exactly what the "BIG MONEY" tells(lets) them to do(no more or no less), not what the majority of the American people wish they would do. Holy Smokes 09-02-2008, 05:12 PM IMO, they are going to do exactly what the "BIG MONEY" tells(lets) them to do(no more or no less), not what the majority of the American people wish they would do. well it's really nice of them to give us a choice:dizzy: BUNNYMAN 09-02-2008, 07:23 PM :amen: ...and given the chance to choose, I believe most of the babies would choose not to be murdered in their mothers womb. but that opens another can of worms known as to when is a life form, a life form....... when it is created, as in when the egg is fertilized....... or when it takes its first breath on its own...... everyone has there own opinion as to when this takes place........ Sniper 09-02-2008, 10:51 PM I have been disappointed in John McCain getting in bed with Ted Kennedy (Hope he used Protection!) on Immigration, but it seems he learned his lesson. He can. Some can't or won't. McCain doesn't think he's smarter than everybody else, like our Elitist Lefty friends do. I would never associate my valuable vote with Drag Queens (Code Pink), Marxists, Radical Lesbians (but I'm not opposed to some hot girl on girl action from time to time), piss and, firebomb throwing Anarchists, Amnesty demanders for those who came he ILLEGALLY (Send them back, and no citizenship because they crapped out a kid here, or "Married" without a legitimate license), Surrender Monkeys (I hate the French) Green Fanatics, Peta nuts, ignorantoiteenyboppers on drugs, ect. The list goes on and on. I accept personal responsibility for my Country. I'm voting McCain/Palin, without reservation. And I hope she gets "Dollar Bill" Jefferson out of Congress first thing, to set a Ethical example to discourage the others. I hope that corrupt bugger dies in Prison. If it's good enough for Duke Cunningham, it is for a crooked Democrat too. Palin has been faced with very difficult Personal and Professional problems. She sure doesn't choose the "Easy" answer, like abort the Retarded Fetus, let the Status Quo of corruption continue on her watch, or Pander to every Tom, Dick, and Sally who demands satisfaction. McCain made a few tough decisions in his life too, when the chips were down hard. Like staying in the Hanoi Hilton and "Refusing Parole or Special Favors" when he could have got out. Roe v. Wade is the Law of the Land. End of Story. That ain't gonna change. States make decisions on the particulars. scottg 09-03-2008, 03:05 PM I have been disappointed in John McCain getting in bed with Ted Kennedy (Hope he used Protection!) on Immigration, but it seems he learned his lesson. He can. Some can't or won't. McCain doesn't think he's smarter than everybody else, like our Elitist Lefty friends do. I would never associate my valuable vote with Drag Queens (Code Pink), Marxists, Radical Lesbians (but I'm not opposed to some hot girl on girl action from time to time), piss and, firebomb throwing Anarchists, Amnesty demanders for those who came he ILLEGALLY (Send them back, and no citizenship because they crapped out a kid here, or "Married" without a legitimate license), Surrender Monkeys (I hate the French) Green Fanatics, Peta nuts, ignorantoiteenyboppers on drugs, ect. The list goes on and on. I accept personal responsibility for my Country. I'm voting McCain/Palin, without reservation. And I hope she gets "Dollar Bill" Jefferson out of Congress first thing, to set a Ethical example to discourage the others. I hope that corrupt bugger dies in Prison. If it's good enough for Duke Cunningham, it is for a crooked Democrat too. Palin has been faced with very difficult Personal and Professional problems. She sure doesn't choose the "Easy" answer, like abort the Retarded Fetus, let the Status Quo of corruption continue on her watch, or Pander to every Tom, Dick, and Sally who demands satisfaction. McCain made a few tough decisions in his life too, when the chips were down hard. Like staying in the Hanoi Hilton and "Refusing Parole or Special Favors" when he could have got out. Roe v. Wade is the Law of the Land. End of Story. That ain't gonna change. States make decisions on the particulars. :peace: :peace: :peace: :amen: :amen: :amen: Very well put Sniper, very well put. I like the way that you think. I can promise you that no other country caters to the illegal imagrants like the U.S. I can tell you that an American in Mexico has a hard time. You do it their way or no way. McCain / Palin all the way:peace: :peace: :peace: Slippy 09-03-2008, 03:59 PM McCain / Palin all the way:peace: :peace: :peace: :rockon: oh yeah.....move over Bill Clinton, make room in the whitehouse for the new rebublicans and don't let the door hit ya on your way out. :wave: I think Palin is our ticket to oil riches amongst other great things. :rockon: I like the fact that she is a normal person. McCain, he's far from normal but I think the two will compliment each other well. God Bless America. :hug: Sniper 09-03-2008, 04:03 PM Americans are not allowed to own land or property within 10 miles of the coast. Only rent or lease. Only Mexicans can own the land. I think fair's fair. They can't own a damn thing here either. Isreal built a nice wall/fence. Works real good. Bet they would give us the blueprints, free of charge.. Send every illegal alien back to where they came from, and never allow them to return. And they can take their little bastard kids with them. Wouldn't want to break up the family. No citizenship for illegals, or the children of illegals, ever. The Left wants it because they think if they give it to them, they will all vote Dem for the next 200 years. If you don't know what LBJ said as he signed the 1965 Civil Rights Bills, look it up. Same idea, different "Oppressed" potential voters. Hamas has come out in support of Barry O. A kindred spirit they can work with. AQ came out for Kerry, and I'm sure they will for Barry too. Wanna guess who Hugo Chavez, Manuel Noriega, Vladamir Putin, Kim Jong Il, and the ghost of Saddam wanna see as POTUS next year? Since I don't associate normally with Drag Queens, Communist/Socialists, Radical Muslims, Junkies, Felons, Lifelong Lazy Welfare Recipients, Illegal Aliens, Feminists, Queers, Anarchists, or any other of the bunch of hypocrit losers who get glazed eyes for any Dem candidate, no matter how unqualified, my vote goes for McCain, and his gun-toting, moose eating, Corruption-Busting, VP. I trust either of them more than Barry and Joe. I would hang ot with John or Sally. Barry O and Joe would get some common sense slapped into them ..... Slippy 09-03-2008, 04:16 PM Since I don't associate normally with Drag Queens, Communist/Socialists, Radical Muslims, Junkies, Felons, Illegal Aliens, Feminists, Queers, Anarchists, or any other of the bunch of hypocrit losers who get glazed eyes for any Dem candidate, no matter how unqualified. I'm with you on a couple bro! :rockon: thjacobi 09-03-2008, 06:48 PM I'm votin McCain..........cause he is Anti-Abortion and against same sex marriages. There thats my reasons like them or not. EXACTLY :amen: :amen: :amen: Sniper 09-03-2008, 07:30 PM I hate Nazis too, so Ron Paul was never even a consideration goldflinger 09-03-2008, 08:38 PM I'm not pro obama or pro mccain but my concern with McCain is he is pro life. Being a man, I cannot force my beliefs or thoughts on a decision that belongs to a woman not a man. Dude!!!!!!!I'm now thinking of deleting this sight from my computer.:frusty: :frusty: Sniper 09-03-2008, 10:01 PM She's obviously a better public speaker than Barry O. She's established that tonight. Thompson, Lieberman, Guiliani, all gave great speeches. So much better, and genuine, than the DNC claptrap last week. Who DIDN'T watch her? And her husband is part Eskimo? Wonder what that great fraud for "Native American Rights", Ward Churchill has to say about that? Sniper 09-03-2008, 10:12 PM I'm not pro obama or pro mccain but my concern with McCain is he is pro life. Being a man, I cannot force my beliefs or thoughts on a decision that belongs to a woman not a man. You do realize that Choice is the Law of the Land for the better part of 40 years now, right? Presidents don't make the rules. The Supreme Court decided that a long time ago. It isn't going to change. It's a non-issue. Like giving Women and Blacks the Right to Vote. There is no ambiguity there. McCain will never have a Abortion. Neither will I. But if you want one Chris, well, that's your decision. Nobody is gonna stop you fella. Personally, I wonder what Barry Obama's Mother would have done if she had the decision available? I can guess. She would have taken her own son's advice and not "Punish" herself. MagnifiedFur 09-03-2008, 10:30 PM I'm not pro obama or pro mccain but my concern with McCain is he is pro life. Being a man, I cannot force my beliefs or thoughts on a decision that belongs to a woman not a man. Do you want your Tax money going to abortions ? It was before Bush revised the Tax plan that came out not long ago,we as Americans were paying billion's to Planned Parenthood over a 5 year period...The Tax cut hurt them by 33% and helped Americans get the extra Stimulus check from the government... There is more to it than just saying I believe its a womans choice,I dont want my Taxes to pay for any Abortions what so ever!!! I respect your post ,the last time I checked "we have the rite to free speech in this country"...I hope it stays that way , McCain ticket here :usa: :usa: :usa: :usa: :usa: :usa: :usa: :usa: :usa: She made more solid points tonight about Obama,than I thought she would...Looks like we have a Republican team that wants to fight for us and actually knows how to do it !!! I was very impressed and really liked what I heard...About time someone says we need to keep our money here,it takes money to make money,American money for American worker's - Amen to that { I think I said that before } :rockon: scottg 09-04-2008, 07:38 AM I hear them talk about foreign policy. What foreign policy? How can you know someone and how to handle them today and tomorrow they are gone? Foreign policy is always changing, so there is no one that is always up to speed on that issue. I think that most would agree that what matters most is what is going to happen to us personally. What is going to happen to our wallets. That is what I am most concerned about. I am not too much worried about foreign policy. They keep their crap over there and I won't worry about it. I would like to be able to sell a home and not pay 38% capitol gains tax. I would like to put food on my table and fuel in truck. The Dems and their ethanol thing is going to kill us on the kitchen table. Most people don't know that ethanol is more expensive to make than gasoline. Ethanol gives you less milage than gasoline. What is the point there? An alternative fuel that we can't afford? I totaly agree that we have to do something about the energy, but not at the expense of killing us. We need to clean out Washinton. I know that at least 50% of the money grabbers on federal payroll can go. That is the first place to start. Cut spending on usless things, like assistants to assistants. Come on America. Univeral healthcare, ask someone from Canada how well that works. That we do not need. Unwanted squaters. Send them all back with the babies that they dropped while here. Illegal is illeagal. Breaking our law is breaking our law. The problem is that a fince will do no good when you leave the gate open. Go to Brownsville Texas and look at the border crossing there. You will soon see that a fence with an open gate does not work. This list can go on and on. We need change for the right reasons. Not because he is black or because she is a woman. We need change for what is right for America. MagnifiedFur 09-04-2008, 10:00 AM The thing that gets me with Imagration is,Legal imagrants dont pay Taxes for 10 years and have their card and already are or soon will be American citizens... I am a American citizen,I was born here.... so why cant I have a 10 year Tax break? We need better border patrol,more officers with more posts closer together... I am not learning a new language...Everything at the store is labeled in 2 languages ....If you become a American citizen the learn the language... scottg 09-04-2008, 10:12 AM The thing that gets me with Imagration is,Legal imagrants dont pay Taxes for 10 years and have their card and already are or soon will be American citizens... I am a American citizen,I was born here.... so why cant I have a 10 year Tax break? We need better border patrol,more officers with more posts closer together... I am not learning a new language...Everything at the store is labeled in 2 languages ....If you become a American citizen the learn the language... Really want your blood to boil? Go south of the border and look at a lable. All Spanish. We are the only country with an instruction book in 10 different languages. No one else has that kind of stuff to put up with. Chris 09-04-2008, 10:31 AM The thing that gets me with Imagration is,Legal imagrants dont pay Taxes for 10 years and have their card and already are or soon will be American citizens... I am a American citizen,I was born here.... so why cant I have a 10 year Tax break? We need better border patrol,more officers with more posts closer together... I am not learning a new language...Everything at the store is labeled in 2 languages ....If you become a American citizen the learn the language... They also need to change the "if you're born here you're an american citizen". Ah no, if your parents are illegal... so are you when you're born!!!! Wheely 09-04-2008, 10:38 AM The thing that gets me with Imagration is,Legal imagrants dont pay Taxes for 10 years and have their card and already are or soon will be American citizens... I am a American citizen,I was born here.... so why cant I have a 10 year Tax break? We need better border patrol,more officers with more posts closer together... I am not learning a new language...Everything at the store is labeled in 2 languages ....If you become a American citizen the learn the language... They must consider you got your 10 + yr tax break as a child before you could work :noidea: Slippy 09-05-2008, 05:53 AM McCain is one boring speaker. His mom looks just like him though. Sniper 09-06-2008, 12:32 AM McCain is one boring speaker. His mom looks just like him though. So I guess that's one Republican Mother and Child you won't demand a DNA test for? You are willing to take their word on who the Mother is? BUNNYMAN 09-06-2008, 03:54 PM So I guess that's one Republican Mother and Child you won't demand a DNA test for? You are willing to take their word on who the Mother is? :spit: :spit: :spit: :spit: :spit: :spit: Chance 09-10-2008, 12:53 PM I'm not sure who I am voting for. I have two questions for each candidate. What are you going to do about the immigration problem? What are you going to do about the economy? Everything else is fluff. For McCain more of the same. After all he voted with Bush on 90% of his screw ups. Now he wants to distance himself from him. Too Late. I'd vote for Ron Paul. rodney482 09-10-2008, 12:59 PM For McCain more of the same. After all he voted with Bush on 90% of his screw ups. Now he wants to distance himself from him. Too Late. I'd vote for Ron Paul. I would have been for Ron but since he doesnt have a chance I am voting for for the war hero and the hunter Sniper 09-11-2008, 06:57 PM For McCain more of the same. After all he voted with Bush on 90% of his screw ups. Now he wants to distance himself from him. Too Late. I'd vote for Ron Paul. That Skeletor-looking Ron Paul, Huh? Better see he gets his Lithium Levels checked, cause he sure needs his dosages adjusted. I won't vote Democrat ever, because I don't want to associate with Drag Queens, Militant Lesbo Man-Hating Feminists, Welfare Leechs, Communists, and Junkies. And I'll never vote Libertarian because I don't want to be associated with American Neo-Nazis. ciscokid 09-11-2008, 09:26 PM We are slowly becoming the minority... we need to save ourselves somehow! I heard an interview with Ron Paul on some early morning show at 3am... and i was floored by the way he spoke. He just truly impressed me on his views! Sniper 09-11-2008, 10:41 PM We are slowly becoming the minority... we need to save ourselves somehow! I heard an interview with Ron Paul on some early morning show at 3am... and i was floored by the way he spoke. He just truly impressed me on his views! I'm all for kicking out every illegal permanently, securing all our borders, and cutting out all the bullcrap work visas. I'd cut the foreign student visas way back too. American Schools that take American Tax dollars and don't pay any (they don't) should educate Americans, and Legal Resident Aliens, IMO. But I sure don't want a Nazi Leaning Anti-Semite, Anti Catholic screwball like R. P. running the show, unless it's a Carnival Freak Show. He'd fit in well there. thehairlessone! 09-12-2008, 09:57 PM Men should marry women Abortion should not be a means of birth control I am not a fan of higher taxes I am for a business making a profit I am for immagration reform and control I am for keeping the war against terrorism out of the U.S. I am not for big government I am for all the drilling that we can do I am for alternative energy (but that takes time to develop) I am for person making money and living the American dream I am pro-gun Obama is none of the above. EXACTLY! rick Chance 09-14-2008, 07:37 PM That Skeletor-looking Ron Paul, Huh? Better see he gets his Lithium Levels checked, cause he sure needs his dosages adjusted. I won't vote Democrat ever, because I don't want to associate with Drag Queens, Militant Lesbo Man-Hating Feminists, Welfare Leechs, Communists, and Junkies. And I'll never vote Libertarian because I don't want to be associated with American Neo-Nazis. Ron Paul would do away with the IRS and we all will pay our fair share. A flat tax of 10% for everyone would be ok for example. Now your super rich will pay more than most of us which they should and not hide behind tax breaks for the rich. Also hiding your money overseas because it will do you no good. Also lets police our own country and not try to be the world police. Right now we are stuck and Iraq has a surplus of Billions the USA will never touch. Oh and the oil rights or contract was given to China!!! Bush thought he was going to hook his friends up and he did but not with the Iraqi Oil. McCain wants to stay in Iraq and this country can not continue with this course of action. Holy Smokes 09-14-2008, 08:08 PM Americans are not allowed to own land or property within 10 miles of the coast. Only rent or lease. Only Mexicans can own the land. I think fair's fair. They can't own a damn thing here either. Isreal built a nice wall/fence. Works real good. Bet they would give us the blueprints, free of charge.. Send every illegal alien back to where they came from, and never allow them to return. And they can take their little bastard kids with them. Wouldn't want to break up the family. No citizenship for illegals, or the children of illegals, ever. The Left wants it because they think if they give it to them, they will all vote Dem for the next 200 years. If you don't know what LBJ said as he signed the 1965 Civil Rights Bills, look it up. Same idea, different "Oppressed" potential voters. Hamas has come out in support of Barry O. A kindred spirit they can work with. AQ came out for Kerry, and I'm sure they will for Barry too. Wanna guess who Hugo Chavez, Manuel Noriega, Vladamir Putin, Kim Jong Il, and the ghost of Saddam wanna see as POTUS next year? Since I don't associate normally with Drag Queens, Communist/Socialists, Radical Muslims, Junkies, Felons, Lifelong Lazy Welfare Recipients, Illegal Aliens, Feminists, Queers, Anarchists, or any other of the bunch of hypocrit losers who get glazed eyes for any Dem candidate, no matter how unqualified, my vote goes for McCain, and his gun-toting, moose eating, Corruption-Busting, VP. I trust either of them more than Barry and Joe. I would hang ot with John or Sally. Barry O and Joe would get some common sense slapped into them ..... Barry and Joe gotta go Sniper 09-14-2008, 09:22 PM Ron Paul would do away with the IRS and we all will pay our fair share. A flat tax of 10% for everyone would be ok for example. Now your super rich will pay more than most of us which they should and not hide behind tax breaks for the rich. Also hiding your money overseas because it will do you no good. Also lets police our own country and not try to be the world police. Right now we are stuck and Iraq has a surplus of Billions the USA will never touch. Oh and the oil rights or contract was given to China!!! Bush thought he was going to hook his friends up and he did but not with the Iraqi Oil. McCain wants to stay in Iraq and this country can not continue with this course of action. And Ron Paul is a Anti-Semite Neo-Nazi. I've seen his Newsletters, and have met people who think he's the next Fuerer I don't Seig Hiel to closet Fascists whatever they pretend to be to gather ignorant minions to their Swastika Flag. But I bet you got your Brown Shirt all ready to go? Do you think with little tidbits to appeal to a specific issue you can cover what he really is. |