I haven't been shooting 3D or hunting since the 90's. I have been surfing the net looking at some of the new bows and see there are many new cam styles with much more speed than when I last bought a bow. I have always shot thye PSE bows and was wondering if anyone out there would be kind enough to share their wisdom as far as a good hunting bow. I have been thinking about trying one of the X Force bows. I would like to hear some of your thoughts on the HF cam versus the GX cam. Things such as speed, drawing ease, holding at full draw, recoil, quietness etc. Would like to here some thoughts on the X Force SS, X Force Dream Season, & other X Force or similar bows. I shoot a 30" draw. String loop might shorten that a bit. Any comments are welcome.
Thanks

I shoot the Dream Season. I like the way it shoots very smooth the one thing i don't like is the break over. It seems to have a easy draw until the last couple of inches then it really releases or breaks over. There is hardly any vibration at all, it is very dead in your hand. It is also very quite for as fast as it shoot much quiter than my old Mock 6. As for speed I am pulling 62lbs and getting 294fps with a 412 gran arrow. Other than the break over it is a very good bow. I would say you should shoot different kinds of bows and pick the one you like best.

sweetpea111. Do you have the 2008 (or earlier) with the Hybrid Fast cam or the 2009 with the GX cam. Compared to the one you have, I wonder how the other cam rolls over (does it have the break at the end)? I suppose that was designed to make it easier to hold and to give you some breathing room so that it dosn't want to take off on you if you do happen to creep forward a hair before you release.

sweetpea111. Do you have the 2008 (or earlier) with the Hybrid Fast cam or the 2009 with the GX cam. Compared to the one you have, I wonder how the other cam rolls over (does it have the break at the end)? I suppose that was designed to make it easier to hold and to give you some breathing room so that it dosn't want to take off on you if you do happen to creep forward a hair before you release.

I've shot the GX and I think it rolls over alot smother. It seems that u have a little more room before it breaks over. I want to see if the cams will be interchangable I would like to change mine over. Mine is the 08 version.

with your 30" draw, getting speed out of a bow wont be a problem. along with the X-force series of bows, I suggest you look at the Bow Madness single cam line. the 32" is rated to 326 and the 36" XL is rated to 332. they're also a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than the X-forces.

How would the Maxis cam compare with the new cams (GX & HF) at 70 lbs. and 30" draw as far as ease of draw, smoothness, holding (back wall), quietness, recoil, etc. I have an Inferno with the Maxis cam. I was hoping to find something to match the speed but with less draw weight. Getting old.

with your 30" draw, getting speed out of a bow wont be a problem. along with the X-force series of bows, I suggest you look at the Bow Madness single cam line. the 32" is rated to 326 and the 36" XL is rated to 332. they're also a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than the X-forces.

I agree with JC on this one. If you're going to get a PSE (there are some even nicer bows out there if you change brands -Hoyt AlphaMax Series or Mathews Reezen 7.0) I would recommend the BowMadness. It seems all the new-comers to archery always focus on speed, so they buy the fastest bow they can. They go to the shop, and they pull as hard as they can, and sky-draw a little...and then they say, "That wasn't that bad...I can do that!"

Then, you go out hunting and guess what...your arms turn to rubber, your heart is pumping, and you can't sky-draw because they deer will see it. Then they really struggle pulling a bow like an X-force back, and what ultimately happens is they hurt their shoulder, and then their on here telling their story about how bummed they are because they hurt their shoulder, and then they post something like, "Smoothest draw..which bow has it?" :laugh:

I believe me, with a 30" draw, pulling 60-70#...you're going to get at least 300fps. Don't worry about the speed - you'll be fine in that department with any bow. Instead, look for a bow that pulls back like butter. No steep valleys, not build-ups at the end of the draw cycle...just a smooth draw, with a well balanced bow. Here are my recommendations for you. All of these bows will give you well over 300fps with a 30" DL.

1) PSE BowMadness (which size is up to you...I always prefer the longest ATA available

2) Hoyt AlphaMax Series (Once again, I'd advise the 35, but if you like the 32, more power to you

3) Mathews Drenalin or Drenalin LD (SMOOOOTH AND FAST!)

4) Mathews S2 - Probably the smoothest bow out there

5) Mathews Reezen 7.0 - VERY FAST Solo Cam, and only has minimal valley (similar to Alphamax feel)

6) BowTech Captain - Very heavy bow, but get the smooth cams, and you will be impressed.

I would to go the shop and try all of these out. You might think I'm a Mathews guy, but I'm not. I love my Hoyt, and I would love to own a Smooth cam'd Bowtech Captain. I myself went through the story I explained above, and now since I can't pull more than 55# because of my blown rotator cuff, I persue the smoothest cams I can. Mathews just happens to sell the smoothest cam out there...and it is on the S2. But, you can't go wrong with either of the 6 I listen above.

Just my opinion, but I'd rather shoot 10-20 fps less, and really enjoy hunting and have a bow that is quiet, smooth, and fun to shoot - than have a bow that I have to exert maximum energy to pull back, and end up hurting my shoulder for life, when what I gain by doing so is so minimal.

I saw something on TV on the outdoor network...they did a test, and they proved you can never out-shoot a deers flinching abilities. I don't care if you're shooting at 400fps...from 20 yards...if the deer hears the arrow go off, it can duck your arrow. SO, that tells me, speed doesnt matter except for if you're taking 50 yards shots (I feel unethical) and it gives you more room for error.

Get Smooth, Get Quiet...and have fun. Good luck bud, you'll have a blast. There are a lot of fun bows to shoot now adays! You can't go wrong!

I agree with JC on this one. If you're going to get a PSE (there are some even nicer bows out there if you change brands -Hoyt AlphaMax Series or Mathews Reezen 7.0) I would recommend the BowMadness. It seems all the new-comers to archery always focus on speed, so they buy the fastest bow they can. They go to the shop, and they pull as hard as they can, and sky-draw a little...and then they say, "That wasn't that bad...I can do that!"

Then, you go out hunting and guess what...your arms turn to rubber, your heart is pumping, and you can't sky-draw because they deer will see it. Then they really struggle pulling a bow like an X-force back, and what ultimately happens is they hurt their shoulder, and then their on here telling their story about how bummed they are because they hurt their shoulder, and then they post something like, "Smoothest draw..which bow has it?" :laugh:

I believe me, with a 30" draw, pulling 60-70#...you're going to get at least 300fps. Don't worry about the speed - you'll be fine in that department with any bow. Instead, look for a bow that pulls back like butter. No steep valleys, not build-ups at the end of the draw cycle...just a smooth draw, with a well balanced bow. Here are my recommendations for you. All of these bows will give you well over 300fps with a 30" DL.

1) PSE BowMadness (which size is up to you...I always prefer the longest ATA available

2) Hoyt AlphaMax Series (Once again, I'd advise the 35, but if you like the 32, more power to you

3) Mathews Drenalin or Drenalin LD (SMOOOOTH AND FAST!)

4) Mathews S2 - Probably the smoothest bow out there

5) Mathews Reezen 7.0 - VERY FAST Solo Cam, and only has minimal valley (similar to Alphamax feel)

6) BowTech Captain - Very heavy bow, but get the smooth cams, and you will be impressed.

I would to go the shop and try all of these out. You might think I'm a Mathews guy, but I'm not. I love my Hoyt, and I would love to own a Smooth cam'd Bowtech Captain. I myself went through the story I explained above, and now since I can't pull more than 55# because of my blown rotator cuff, I persue the smoothest cams I can. Mathews just happens to sell the smoothest cam out there...and it is on the S2. But, you can't go wrong with either of the 6 I listen above.

Just my opinion, but I'd rather shoot 10-20 fps less, and really enjoy hunting and have a bow that is quiet, smooth, and fun to shoot - than have a bow that I have to exert maximum energy to pull back, and end up hurting my shoulder for life, when what I gain by doing so is so minimal.

I saw something on TV on the outdoor network...they did a test, and they proved you can never out-shoot a deers flinching abilities. I don't care if you're shooting at 400fps...from 20 yards...if the deer hears the arrow go off, it can duck your arrow. SO, that tells me, speed doesnt matter except for if you're taking 50 yards shots (I feel unethical) and it gives you more room for error.

Get Smooth, Get Quiet...and have fun. Good luck bud, you'll have a blast. There are a lot of fun bows to shoot now adays! You can't go wrong!

While I truely appreciate people who post well written informed posts. Such as you have above. However I find it a bit A---holeish to say Hoyt or Mathews is nicer/better than a PSE. In reality the all are well crafted well made bows. They all perform very well. I couldn't tell you that my Hoyt is nicer than my PSE. I couldn't tell you any of the Mathews I played were any better than most other brands.

What makes them nicer????

In reality they all have different characteristics thats make them what the are. It all comes down to personal preference on what we like to shoot.