had a couple of shady charecters come in the shop today, you know when you just have that feelling about someone.....well let me tell you never felt that uncomfortable at work before.....my heart was in my throat the hole time they were there....you know the kind that never takes there eye of of the person behind the counter except when they are signalling to the other.....well easton doesnt make only arrows boys and girls.....nothing ended up happening but I was shaking for the rest of the day.....i have never felt unconfortable at work before.......

this got me to thinking that i am probably not the only one something like this or worse has happened too......

had a couple of shady charecters come in the shop today, you know when you just have that feelling about someone.....well let me tell you never felt that uncomfortable at work before.....my heart was in my throat the hole time they were there....you know the kind that never takes there eye of of the person behind the counter except when they are signalling to the other.....well easton doesnt make only arrows boys and girls.....nothing ended up happening but I was shaking for the rest of the day.....i have never felt unconfortable at work before.......

this got me to thinking that i am probably not the only one something like this or worse has happened too......

Probably not, I've seen it happen before, and these people know damn well they are looking shady, they do it on purpose.

Bowman, I hope you have a permit to carry in the state you are in, just wear a big ol 9mm on your hip. Thank God we have it here in Tn. God Bless and keep you:pray: , Holy Smokes.:smokin:

Not sure NY has a permit but my good ole home state allows me to carry a concealed weapon just for those shady characters.:rockon: Never have I had a problem and hope I never do. But its nice to know you have a little backup that goes by the name of Smith & Wesson 357.;) Be careful boys there are alot of desperate people out there. Glad to hear everything turned out ok there Adam keep safe.:hug:

I dont have a pistol permit and never wanted one untill now.....Although if bad things had happened I probably would have just given them what ever they wanted......

I dont have a pistol permit and never wanted one untill now.....Although if bad things had happened I probably would have just given them what ever they wanted......
Got mine, it's easy in Ulster County too. But you're right just give em' what they want, and if they want too much " Let em' have it!"

Ok so I am sure everyones opinions will very here but......

What makes a good self defence handgun, something that is accurate as well as easy to handle........

I have never felt a handgun was very accurate and have never even wanted to get one.....

now i am contemplating it very seriosly.....I dont want my daughter growing up w/o a daddy......

Bowman,
I would suggest a .45cal semi auto, in what ever brand you decide to go with.It kinda depends on what type of cash you are wanting to spend.Alot of responsibility comes with carrying a gun, if you do decide to carry make sure that you are willing to use it and know how.I would suggest that you take a class even if you know how to shoot.

I think I am going to research this a little more.....guess this is why the 7 day waiting period was made....(cooling off period)

Bowman,
I would suggest a .45cal semi auto, in what ever brand you decide to go with.It kinda depends on what type of cash you are wanting to spend.Alot of responsibility comes with carrying a gun, if you do decide to carry make sure that you are willing to use it and know how.I would suggest that you take a class even if you know how to shoot.

45's are a good gun but not or self defense IMHO, a good coice for a defensive handgun is a small double action 357 revolver w/ a 2" barrel. It's easy to conceal, It won't jam like alot of auto's, and you can get em' cheap. Just choose quality your life may depend on it!

I carry a medium frame Taurus 9mm. It's well made and with good ammo I have never had a jam, but it's hard to conceal. Especially in shorts and a tee shirt.

Ok so I am sure everyones opinions will very here but......

What makes a good self defence handgun, something that is accurate as well as easy to handle........

I have never felt a handgun was very accurate


It's like anything else Practice, Practice, well you know. Most defesive shootings are within 25 feet so accuracy is not as big an issue as you would imagine. You need to practice drawing and "point shooting".

but it's hard to conceal. Especially in shorts and a tee shirt.

I work w/chain saws......so tee shirts and shorts are not a problem

so fill me in what is point shooting......I do not know anything about guns....hand guns anyway......

Point shooting is basically you point the gun and pull the trigger and hope you hit something.

I would NOT go with a .45, the recoil is a bit rough and the clips don't hold as many rounds.

Do not get a revolver, get a good semi "conceal carry" piece. 20+ shots compared to 6... you do the math.

My perferred self defense round is the .40 S&W. Very managable recoil, very accurate round with plenty of knockdown power, but it won't go through the person and through the wall behind them like a .45 will.

Glock makes a good reliable gun (cops use them for a reason). H&K makes an awesome gun in the USP (I love mine!) and Remington makes a good one. depending on how much you want to spend the sky is the limit on pistols.

btw- READ THE LAWS!!!! In a lot of states you can carry concealed but if you draw the weapon you are breaking the law. Also... keeping it under the counter is pretty stupid, what happens if your not right there at the moment?

Also - get a lasergrip sight. (Crimson Trace makes a good one) Nothing is going to deter the idiots like seeing a red spot appear on their chest which is exactly where the bullet is going to go to.

and make sure you practice, buying a gun and never shooting and only keeping it "just in case" makes as much sense as giving them the money.

Check on just carry laws that apply to having the firearm on your own property, sometimes by not "concealing" it and having it open for them to see is more of a deterant than pulling it out after someone attempts an act. Stopping the thought and not the action is the key. However, you may want to talk to some of your more regular/trusted/important customers to find out if they feel that you carrying a firearm would make them uncomfortable in your shop. Even a concealed weapon isn't always concealed if you bend over just right or twist to grab something off the shelf. Also, don't under estimate the eyes of a child that are at waist height. They notice everything and are definately going to bring it to dad's/mom's attention.

Beware: there is more to think about that what gun and caliber that you want.

I understand that you have to protect your business and life, especially in these shady changing times, but you also must ensure that customers are comfortable enough to return. I know of a small outfitter in the area that went out of business he made people too uncomfortable to come in the door. He was robbed once and became too paranoid.

Please be careful, if we get loose everyone, meaning just you, that talk down the WB then the other companies won't even have a chance. I mean who else is there to give misguided advise.

Clem

Please be careful, if we get loose everyone, meaning just you, that talk down the WB then the other companies won't even have a chance. I mean who else is there to give misguided advise.Clem

I am somewhat lost and maybe I am not reading this right......so forgive me, maybe there is a word out of place....



Also does anyone think that maybe I really dont care if you use a WB.....I just like to "stir the pot" .......as long as you are shooting than that is all that matters.....I do feel there are better rests out there for all venues even hunting but if thats what you like then so be it.......I just cant seem to keep myself from :deadhorse: :laugh:

so fill me in what is point shooting......I do not know anything about guns....hand guns anyway......
Point shooting is kinda like dredly said. It's a type of shooting disipline where you train to point the gun like an extension of your hand. You can raise your hand and point your finger at the target everytime, now you practice w/ the gun ( raise, point, fire) Like I said most shots will be within 25 feet, center mass of the average human is atleast 12" x 12" so accuracy is not a major issue. Trigger control is more important.

As far as Hi-capacity mags, NY has a 10 round limit, and I would rather have a good revolver that fires all 6 than a auto that may jam on the second round. Not that it will happen but I don't want to bet my life on it!

"The only EFFECTIVE Gun control is using both hands!!"

My perferred self defense round is the .40 S&W. Very managable recoil, very accurate round with plenty of knockdown power, but it won't go through the person and through the wall behind them like a .45 will.

Glock makes a good reliable gun (cops use them for a reason). H&K makes an awesome gun in the USP (I love mine!) and Remington makes a good one. depending on how much you want to spend the sky is the limit on pistols.

btw- READ THE LAWS!!!! In a lot of states you can carry concealed but if you draw the weapon you are breaking the law. Also... keeping it under the counter is pretty stupid, what happens if your not right there at the moment?

Also - get a lasergrip sight. (Crimson Trace makes a good one) Nothing is going to deter the idiots like seeing a red spot appear on their chest which is exactly where the bullet is going to go to.

and make sure you practice, buying a gun and never shooting and only keeping it "just in case" makes as much sense as giving them the money.

40 SW is an excellent round, an another good auto is the Sig Sauer or even Kimber. I don't knock the big names like those auto's, it's the small inexpensive autos like some of the Keltec's, Raven, Star. They are bad choices for inexperienced shooters(who are prone to "limp wrist", hinders the recoil operated action causing jams)

But like you said you have to practice. And a laser sight can be an effective deterent.

I am somewhat lost and maybe I am not reading this right......so forgive me, maybe there is a word out of place....



Also does anyone think that maybe I really dont care if you use a WB.....I just like to "stir the pot" .......as long as you are shooting than that is all that matters.....I do feel there are better rests out there for all venues even hunting but if thats what you like then so be it.......I just cant seem to keep myself from :deadhorse: :laugh:

Sorry, maybe it was the wrong time for me to give a stir to the pot.

First of all....it really stinks that people like that are out there so that you feel that you have to make this decision, but if it's really on your mind then check around and see if you got any local pro shops or gun ranges where you can try out the goods? That way you can determine what caliber/action/frame size is comfortable to you personally. That should be very helpful if you don't have much experience with handguns. :thumb:

<climbs on soapbox>
Regardless of what you decide, my best advice is that IF you choose to buy a handgun for self defense, buy some ammo, take it to a good range, and shoot it, shoot it, shoot it....become familiar with it, cozy even to the point that everything about handling it becomes second nature. Any gun that you can't handle with effeciency and accuracy is no good to you in a stressful personal defense scenario. Don't buy one if you intend to throw it in a drawer just in case you need it. And of course check all of your local laws....
<steps down from soapbox>
:biggrin1:

I own several handguns in several different calibers but for my my personal defense rig i chose a semi-compact Baby Eagle in .40 S&W. Reliable, simple, accurate.

I have done some thinking and I think I will talk it over w/the boss when he gets back from Colorado......I think maybe a shotgun mount under the counter may be a little better.......:biggrin1:

I have done some thinking and I think I will talk it over w/the boss when he gets back from Colorado......I think maybe a shotgun mount under the counter may be a little better.......:biggrin1:

Well, did you get a gun yet?

Well, did you get a gun yet?

I got GUNS, dont you worry.......

Have not had any shady charachters ever since we started playing video on the boss and I target practicing on the TV we have out front:noidea:

The most important thing I can advise you is: Don't listen to any of our preferences! I wouldn't carry anything else but a full size 1911 - yet others here have immediately dismissed it. Try as many different models as you can. It needs to be something YOU are comfortable and confident with. Agreed - learn the laws, train, practice and develop a survivors mindset. I suggest 38spec or 9mm as a reasonable minimum - past that only you can decide.

Oh; I just noticed this an old thread. Oh well I still like the advice! :D :eyebrows:

had a couple of shady charecters come in the shop today, you know when you just have that feelling about someone.....well let me tell you never felt that uncomfortable at work before.....my heart was in my throat the hole time they were there....you know the kind that never takes there eye of of the person behind the counter except when they are signalling to the other.....well easton doesnt make only arrows boys and girls.....nothing ended up happening but I was shaking for the rest of the day.....i have never felt unconfortable at work before.......

this got me to thinking that i am probably not the only one something like this or worse has happened too......

I remember that day, i still worked with you. If i remember correctly i was in the office by the door with an easton aluminum baseball bat.... and one of those creeps was outside looking in at me in the office....that was a scary day....

I remember that day, i still worked with you. If i remember correctly i was in the office by the door with an easton aluminum baseball bat.... and one of those creeps was outside looking in at me in the office....that was a scary day....

HEY -- Papitoooooooooo!

How's OCC treating ya?

Bunny man dont forgit my post on HOW NOT TO HOLD A HANDGUN!!!!! Remeber SAFETY FIRST!! Get someone to walk you through everything about a gun! I bet the person that blew his thumb off didnt wake up that morining and say "Hey i wanna blow my thumb off today"...................:peace:

Well since I decided to CCW the only weapon I would trust my life to is the Glock 23 or 27 (S&W .40) I have seen one (the 23) dropped in the sand, rinsed out with coke, and never jammed after 200 more rounds. My old doctor did it right next to me....

Well since I decided to CCW the only weapon I would trust my life to is the Glock 23 or 27 (S&W .40) I have seen one (the 23) dropped in the sand, rinsed out with coke, and never jammed after 200 more rounds. My old doctor did it right next to me....

thats impressive.

''jay'' OCC is great!!!:D

Yea easton makes the synegry, I prefer a 27 oz.

Ok so I am sure everyones opinions will very here but......

What makes a good self defence handgun, something that is accurate as well as easy to handle........

I have never felt a handgun was very accurate and have never even wanted to get one.....

now i am contemplating it very seriosly.....I dont want my daughter growing up w/o a daddy......

S&W featherlight .38..Hamerless. its small compact no hammer to get caught on the way out.. Fairly accurate out to 15 yards. You can keep it in your back waist band all day and it wont weigh you down.

thats impressive.

''jay'' OCC is great!!!:D

Needless to say, I was impressed.... I ate rice for 2 weeks to get one...

Get a springfield .45 XD....doesn't recoil bad at all and 12 in the clip baby! I love mine!!!!

Nope get one of these

Nope get one of these

those are great pistols but a little bit on the large size for a carry gun....:noidea: I am just sayin...:noidea:

Get a springfield .45 XD....doesn't recoil bad at all and 12 in the clip baby! I love mine!!!!

Firestar Plus 3.5" barrell
13 in tha clip 9mm
I always carry a back up clip
27 rounds with 1 in tha chamber
----(you know like tha main feather) and lock:biggrin1:
Bang bang bang ect:tape:

Nope get one of these

sweet looking "Heater" Paptio
I'd ssy you could fire em up with that piece

i've shot one and they got a serious punch. There .50 cal but they make them in .357 magnum and .40 S&W. The one i shot was a .50 and i had all i could do to hold on to it. But they only hold 7 rounds which is there downfall, oh there heavy as heack too:frusty:

Ruger 9mm p95

9mm is a good choice....for my wife :tape:

I'm tellin you..shoot the .45XD from springfield, it recoils like a 9mm Ruger IMHO.

I dont have a pistol permit and never wanted one untill now.....Although if bad things had happened I probably would have just given them what ever they wanted......

Just filed for my new one.

glock 9mm cant beat their trigger system,i personely carry a kimber 45 CDP ultra II,its as smooth as ice..................:peace:

The XD is a sweet gun but i still like the Kimbers 1911 Compact

The XD is a sweet gun but i still like the Kimbers 1911 Compact

ya i put hogue grips on mine really like the feel at quick draw,some come with a nice laser too.....3inch barrel,blackjack holster good combo........

We have a retail store, for close situations (you don't want to kill a neighbor by accident) I like a 380 with Glazier rounds. They are much safer for the neighbors and devastating for the targets.:laugh:

Finally, here come the 1911 fans. :rockon:

9mm is a good choice....for my wife :tape:

I'm tellin you..shoot the .45XD from springfield, it recoils like a 9mm Ruger IMHO.

what !!! you calling me a sissy or my gun is a sissy's gun:D

I just got back from my local PD and was told I must reapply for my permit M-F 7am to 3pm. I work from 6am to 6pm.:doh:

The local GM here has the Smith&Wesson Sigma Series 9mm or 40cal for $279 after $50 mail in rebate. Pretty good price I think.:noidea:

I usually carry 2 differant pistols. Both are light caliber, Mine are sized more for concealment. A small Model 90 Beretta which is only a .32 or a Beretta Cheetah 84 that is a .380. BUT I'm upgrading to a Sig P250 Modular. It is a modular system where you can change from 9mm, .357, .40 or.45 and also change grips size and from compact to regular. Got it on order as we speak.

I usually carry 2 differant pistols. Both are light caliber, Mine are sized more for concealment. A small Model 90 Beretta which is only a .32 or a Beretta Cheetah 84 that is a .380. BUT I'm upgrading to a Sig P250 Modular. It is a modular system where you can change from 9mm, .357, .40 or.45 and also change grips size and from compact to regular. Got it on order as we speak.

That modular system sounds good. I think it was Dan Wesson that made a revolver that you could change from .357 to .44 or something like that years ago.:noidea: :peace:

Heres a great 1 Rugar P89,9mm,15shot:D

OK iam not busting any chops here,but please dont skimp on a self defence pistol,your going to use it to protect you and love ones ,get the best you can......you get what you pay for..................:peace:

I think I am going to research this a little more.....guess this is why the 7 day waiting period was made....(cooling off period)

???? 7 day wait. Not here if you have a carry permit. Same day service.

My gun is better then all of them, I have a 100 round mag for it. .223

Here's my carry gun.....:noidea:

I was living in Louisiana working as a manager at McAlister's Deli after hurricane Katrina and Rita (the one that got us). As soon as the evacuation was over we came back to complete destruction. Luckily our apt only had mold damage, but FEMA still evicted us. After Katrina they sent a lot of well...criminals to Lake Charles. There were car jackings, robberies, rapes, and generally people being dumbasses. That is when I decided to purchase my first handgun. It is a S&W Sigma .40 that works just fine and I'm glad I never had to use it although I carry it or my Beretta 92-FS daily. Although having a gun may make you feel safe it is only the knowledge that is gained through practice that you know that if it comes down to it that you could use it to defend yourself and your family.
My parents just filled out the paperwork to get their CCW and I'm glad, I only wish I could get my wife to carry.

after mine comes in. My wife is getting hers. She has a S&W featherlite 38 shooting wad cutters.

You need to carry the biggest gun that you can carry conceled. I like my kel tec PF9, it fits in my pocket and is always there. I also have a para ordanance 45 compact, nice gun for the mall or any time I can wear an untucked shirt. Sometimes I carry in a holster fanny pack. It is nice for the summer time when I want to carry the 45 but am wearing short.

What ever you get make sure that you can pull it quickly and fire it accurately.

My gun is better then all of them, I have a 100 round mag for it. .223

Preety nice concealed weapon you got there QSA

OK iam not busting any chops here,but please dont skimp on a self defence pistol,your going to use it to protect you and love ones ,get the best you can......you get what you pay for..................:peace:

so true if your ever gonna be in a gun fight you want th best there is.

My gun is better then all of them, I have a 100 round mag for it. .223

is that even legal????:noidea: :tape:

is that even legal????:noidea: :tape:

is in my book
that constitution
" a well armed militia":cool:

There's nothing wrong with small compact small caliber guns but the .45 will always be number one for me, weather its a springfield xd, 1911, or any other .45

this is the gun my cousin just bought
H&K USP compact
.45 Auto
8+1 capacity

is that even legal????:noidea: :tape:

not in the great state of NY!!!!:frusty:

not in the great state of NY!!!!:frusty:

lets move:noidea:

lets move:noidea:come on down to Dixie land of low taxes9( no state income tax) and gun packing

My gun is better then all of them, I have a 100 round mag for it. .223

I all for using a full size weapon, but that has to be tough to conceal. Hey, on the other hand it ought to work! :usa2: :peace:

There's nothing wrong with small compact small caliber guns but the .45 will always be number one for me, weather its a springfield xd, 1911, or any other .45

this is the gun my cousin just bought
H&K USP compact
.45 Auto
8+1 capacity

WELL HOWDY THERE PAPITO...........where have you been and don't blame it on wild women.:laugh:

We missed ya around here ya old release puncher.:wave:

WELL HOWDY THERE PAPITO...........where have you been and don't blame it on wild women.:laugh:

We missed ya around here ya old release puncher.:wave:

Shucks i got nothing to blame it on then!!

come on down to Dixie land of low taxes9( no state income tax) and gun packing

Now thats my kind of state!!!:D :peace:

Yeah go with the HK USP 40 cal or 9mm. I also have the Beretta 92fs. But my personal favorite for home defense is the trusty ol AR-15 M4.

In most states you can carry openly or conceled at your place of employment, as long as the owner allows. So, carry the biggest shiny gun you can and make it show. Most criminals are cowards and look for the easiest target. Let them know what you got waiting for them as soon as they walk in the door.:D

Here is you a breakdown of which states allow permits
there are also repiotory laws and each stse is to be obeyed even if your stae has a differece.
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/LRB/pubs/wb/06wb6.pdf
http://www.ccrkba.org/reciprocity.html a good one:biggrin1:

Heres avery intersting note bout polices thoughts on carrying
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57641

The Springfield XD .45 GAP is the gun that is by my bed each night. Like Hook said, the XD's mean business period.

And if my liberal moronic state would allow concealed carry :censored: , I would carry either the XD .40 subcompact or the S&W 642 air weight .38 special.

If Chicago would slide off into Lake Michigan I think you'd have a shot at it.

If Chicago would slide off into Lake Michigan I think you'd have a shot at it.

One can only hope....

The Springfield XD .45 GAP is the gun that is by my bed each night. Like Hook said, the XD's mean business period.

And if my liberal moronic state would allow concealed carry :censored: , I would carry either the XD .40 subcompact or the S&W 642 air weight .38 special.

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 my friend

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 my friend

:amen: I never never never leave home without 1

I just got back from my local PD and was told I must reapply for my permit M-F 7am to 3pm. I work from 6am to 6pm.:doh:

The local GM here has the Smith&Wesson Sigma Series 9mm or 40cal for $279 after $50 mail in rebate. Pretty good price I think.:noidea:

Well I left work early today and got my renewal form in the mail. LIFETIME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:peace:

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 my friend

AMEN.........my good southern friend.:wave:

Well I left work early today and got my renewal form in the mail. LIFETIME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:peace:

Good deal Hoosier you should get it back in about 6 weeks...:peace:

Good deal Hoosier you should get it back in about 6 weeks...:peace:

I'm glad I decided to go with the lifetime. One less thing I have to try to remember.:laugh:

I'm glad I decided to go with the lifetime. One less thing I have to try to remember.:laugh:
You guys have to renew?
NY is a one time deal.

You guys have to renew?
NY is a one time deal.

REALLY.........whats the price??

You guys have to renew?
NY is a one time deal.

We used to have to renew but last year they changed the law to allow lifetime.... I got mine last summer...:peace:

The Springfield XD .45 GAP is the gun that is by my bed each night. Like Hook said, the XD's mean business period.

And if my liberal moronic state would allow concealed carry :censored: , I would carry either the XD .40 subcompact or the S&W 642 air weight .38 special.
Yeah the 642 is nice...but I like a 357 mag
especially in 2"
Colt Magnum Carry
7618

Here is my pea shooter..

Here is my pea shooter..

What caliber is that BHH?

What caliber is that BHH?

looks like tree fitty sebbum

looks like tree fitty sebbum

Another southernease. Yes it is .357 model 686. She is so smooth.:peace:

for some reason the pic made the bullets look smaller...:noidea: I got a S&W .357 mag too...

for some reason the pic made the bullets look smaller...:noidea: I got a S&W .357 mag too...

My favorite cartridge.:peace:

My favorite cartridge.:peace:

I was wavering between the .357 and a .44 when I bought mine then I saw the price of the .44 ammo....:scared: :scared:

for some reason the pic made the bullets look smaller...:noidea: I got a S&W .357 mag too...

no....THE GUN made the cartriges look small:laugh:

frank, thats not very safe, leaving your gun and ammo, lay around on the floor:noidea:

frank, thats not very safe, leaving your gun and ammo, lay around on the floor:noidea:

Both my sons are very well versed in weaponry. Besides its much more accessible for ifin somebody knocks on my door.:tape:

I was wavering between the .357 and a .44 when I bought mine then I saw the price of the .44 ammo....:scared: :scared:

I split the difference. I like 41 mags....:peace:

I split the difference. I like 41 mags....:peace:

I just like the feel and effeciency of the .357.:noidea: Besides my wife can shoot .38 specials in it too.:cool:

Went up to the range to shoot and kill a little paper today and I'll be :censored: if a little Glock 27 in .40 didn't follow me home. I should know better than to take my charge with me. Sweet little compact. Natually had to get a "Forbus" conceal holster to go with it.

Here is my pea shooter..
Nice piece BHH...I love my 357's

???? 7 day wait. Not here if you have a carry permit. Same day service.
Here in Mo. there is no waiting period anymore. When I bought my new Glock today they did everything right there. Plus they changed the law (just found out today) that you don't have to register pistols anymore. They just called in my name, driver's license and SS #. to see if I was on the NO-No list and 10 minutes later I was out the door.

Here in Mo. there is no waiting period anymore. When I bought my new Glock today they did everything right there. Plus they changed the law (just found out today) that you don't have to register pistols anymore. They just called in my name, driver's license and SS #. to see if I was on the NO-No list and 10 minutes later I was out the door.
In NY it varies county to county...most have no waiting period others have upto 5 days...:noidea:

In NY it varies county to county...most have no waiting period others have upto 5 days...:noidea:

EVEN for handguns????:noidea: :noidea:

I never realized that you cannot carry in Illinois or Wisconsin until Smokes posted his links...:noidea:

Also (just found out today also) now in Mo you don't have to have it posted on your Driver's license. My old concealed permit had big red letters over my Picture on my drivers license about my right to carry. Now you can opt to have a seperate photo ID card instead. Going to get mine changed.

REALLY.........whats the price??

hey ED answer the mans QUESTION:mad:

EVEN for handguns????:noidea: :noidea:
Only for handguns...no wait for long guns...except in NYC

Only for handguns...no wait for long guns...except in NYC

thats what i thought.....there is a 5 day waiting period for handguns right???

Hey Hoosier you ever been to a gun show in Indiana?

thats what i thought.....there is a 5 day waiting period for handguns right???
Not everywhere...only a few counties still have a waiting period...

I guess I should clear up one thing though...after you buy the handgun you must got to your county sheriff's office and add the weapon to your permit then you can go back to the dealer and pick it up...unless your county has a waiting period. In that case you go to your sheriff's office and add the weapon and in however many days they will mail you the paperwork you need to pick up the weapon...:doh:

I hate NY...

i've shot one and they got a serious punch. There .50 cal but they make them in .357 magnum and .40 S&W. The one i shot was a .50 and i had all i could do to hold on to it. But they only hold 7 rounds which is there downfall, oh there heavy as heack too:frusty:


I've got the 40 S&W Desert Eagle, it is a smaller frame than the 50 and .357.
It is reliable and accurate, not bad recoil. BTW Nassau County's renewal is $200 for 5 years and currently about a 1 year wait for new permits. No waiting period to buy a hand gun once you have your permit.

had a couple of shady charecters come in the shop today, you know when you just have that feelling about someone.....well let me tell you never felt that uncomfortable at work before.....my heart was in my throat the hole time they were there....you know the kind that never takes there eye of of the person behind the counter except when they are signalling to the other.....well easton doesnt make only arrows boys and girls.....nothing ended up happening but I was shaking for the rest of the day.....i have never felt unconfortable at work before.......

this got me to thinking that i am probably not the only one something like this or worse has happened too......

There probably saying the same thing ...about YOU :laugh:

I split the difference. I like 41 mags....

An underrated round! :rockon:

Sir, I don't know you, but I am a lawenforcement officer in Nevada and I feel that if you are going to carry a weapon it must be one you practice with as much as your bow. and this point and shoot---you are responsible for every round you fire including the misses. As far a carry gun goes, I carry S/W 357 with a 2 inch barrel, the round ends most threats. You only need one well place round to end the fight, you don't need suppression fire. Practice like it is the real thing every time. You will find that you loose your fine motor skills during a panic situation and must rely on what you have trained for. Good luck and my you never have to use your weapon, but if you do end the threat and make sure you're the one going home that night and that the threat is going some place dark and cold.

is that even legal????:noidea: :tape:

yes it is. I built it on a AR15 reg. pistol frame. I does scrape the laws but it is 100% legal.

Sir, I don't know you, but I am a lawenforcement officer in Nevada and I feel that if you are going to carry a weapon it must be one you practice with as much as your bow. and this point and shoot---you are responsible for every round you fire including the misses. As far a carry gun goes, I carry S/W 357 with a 2 inch barrel, the round ends most threats. You only need one well place round to end the fight, you don't need suppression fire. Practice like it is the real thing every time. You will find that you loose your fine motor skills during a panic situation and must rely on what you have trained for. Good luck and my you never have to use your weapon, but if you do end the threat and make sure you're the one going home that night and that the threat is going some place dark and cold.

with out a bought.

Sir, I don't know you, but I am a lawenforcement officer in Nevada and I feel that if you are going to carry a weapon it must be one you practice with as much as your bow. and this point and shoot---you are responsible for every round you fire including the misses. As far a carry gun goes, I carry S/W 357 with a 2 inch barrel, the round ends most threats. You only need one well place round to end the fight, you don't need suppression fire. Practice like it is the real thing every time. You will find that you loose your fine motor skills during a panic situation and must rely on what you have trained for. Good luck and my you never have to use your weapon, but if you do end the threat and make sure you're the one going home that night and that the threat is going some place dark and cold.
Well said...
The only comments I can add is that a handgun is not a proper response to all threats...Brandishing a pistol in a NON-lifethreatening situation can lead to a felony menacing charge...Always do your best to fend off attacks empty handed first...not long enough to get yourself killed, just until you can verify the attacker is armed or a true threat to your life.


Secondly like was said in the quote...you need to practice alot and become proficient with your CCW...alot of newbies will buy auto's with the largest capacity magazines they can find, beleiving quantity will make up for accuracy...
Don't get me wrong I love my autos and I carry them from time to time...but my ole reliable is a 2" 357 magnum Colt...JMHO

Hey Hoosier you ever been to a gun show in Indiana?

Oh my gosh, YES I used to go to all the 1500's in Indy and all the local ones within 30 miles of me. Talk about addicted.:doh:

the best reason i like tha 9 is that if a conflict ever breaks out there is more of that ammo and it is an international round than any thing else
so It wil be easier to find
laws here go to school qualifie with eapon then go to DMV and a backgound check
renewable ever 4 yrs at $50
Aunt Tn's tax thats Uncle Sams wife

the best reason i like tha 9 is that if a conflict ever breaks out there is more of that ammo and it is an international round than any thing else
so It wil be easier to find
laws here go to school qualifie with eapon then go to DMV and a backgound check
renewable ever 4 yrs at $50
Aunt Tn's tax thats Uncle Sams wife
Yep right now 9mm para and 38 special are the easiest to get and the cheapest to shoot

I agree with brokenarrow with the S&W .357 except I like the 4" barrel. The model 686 makes for a good sidearm when hog hunting. Theyre also not so bad on the wallet when you go shooting because you can shoot the .38 rounds for a few dollars less. Just my $.02 worth though.

In Louisiana we have concealed carry. I still have to side with Uncle Ted. I just don't see any politician telling me how I can protect my family and my property. When it comes down to it, law or no law, me and mine are and will be protected. I am glad that nothing came aobut it Bunnyman. Like the saying goes, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Many many years ago there was a gun shop in a part of Tulsa I wouldn't want to live in that was ran by this VERY old oriential couple that was never robbed....Doubt if that short 12 gauge hanging in plain sight behind the counter with the pump handle pulled back and that bright red shell exposed in the chamber for all to see had anything to do with it:noidea: