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Daniel Boone
05-05-2010, 12:47 PM
We cannot afford this. Billions of dollars. Please vote and lets put these dollars to work for honest US Citizens.


Good Video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6t2ckpb5g

CutTheLoop
05-05-2010, 02:55 PM
It's sickening to imagine what we could be doing with those sums of money, were it not for throwing it out the window at "ILLEGAL" aliens.

:frusty:


I say go after the employers FIRST, make the fines painful enough... they will stop.

Daniel Boone
05-05-2010, 06:36 PM
It's sickening to imagine what we could be doing with those sums of money, were it not for throwing it out the window at "ILLEGAL" aliens.

:frusty:


I say go after the employers FIRST, make the fines painful enough... they will stop.

I agree that will be the only way to stop it.
DB

ozzy
05-05-2010, 08:22 PM
Sheriff Joe For Prez! Arizona has the right idea.

Daniel Boone
05-05-2010, 11:08 PM
Sheriff Joe For Prez! Arizona has the right idea.

Read this and tell me Arizona doesnt need this law. If you lived in terror on your own land you would want as well.:censored:

is one of the best explanations of why the AZ legislature passed

the law.



Subject: Arizona - The real reason



I'm Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070

which I voted for and was just signed by Governor Jan Brewer.



Rancher Rob Krantz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a

month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the

border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who

testified.



The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico

Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to

stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One

Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch

vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting

down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has

found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles.



Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his

ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in

front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind

them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These

people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way.

This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the

drug trains.



One man told of two illegal's who came upon his property one shot in

the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced

them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun

fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the

ranch and they can't leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left

when they come back.



The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles

away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are

not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run

around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can

take them back across the border.



Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona prisons

are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of our law

enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal.



The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried

about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the

people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a

better life.



The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help

the border states . We have been over run and once they are here we

have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education

cost have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions

of dollars. Our State is broke, $3.5 billion deficit and we have many

serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to

care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop.

The border can be secured. We have the technology we have the ability

to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come

in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into

our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a

nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and

to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we

live under.



I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare

not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to forgive

them because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run

to the point that there will no longer be the United States of

America but a North American Union of open borders. I ask you what

form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we

will be just like Mexico , Canada or any of the other Central

American or South American countries? We have already lost our

language, everything must be printed in Spanish also. We have already

lost our history it is no longer taught in our schools. And we have

lost our borders.



The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going

to set up a Nazi Germany. Are you kidding. The ACLU and the leftist

courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally,

but it was an effort to try and stop illegal's from setting up

businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the

ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause like a

traffic stop to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is

very clear if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times.

That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal

citizen is a driver license, MVD identification card, Native American

Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote, get a hunting

license, etc.. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is

going to be stopped walking down the street etc... The Socialist who

are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something and

that something the Socialist wants us to do is just let them come.

They want the "Transformation" to continue.



Maybe it is too late to save America . Maybe we are not worthy of

freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I

can to protect our Constitutional Republic . Living in America is not

a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an

American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding

the Constitution the law of our land which says what you must do to

be a citizen of this country. Freedom is not free.

TomT
05-06-2010, 05:09 AM
Let's bring the 150K troops back from the ME wars of imperialism and put'em on the borders.
That'd save billions of $$, and would make our borders more secure.

Holy Smokes
05-06-2010, 07:07 AM
Let's bring the 150K troops back from the ME wars of imperialism and put'em on the borders.
That'd save billions of $$, and would make our borders more secure.

nawww
just arm all the citizens with Mac 4's and make them a milita
should do nicely and at a fraction of the cost and a better defense as they have a good intrest in thier homeland

TomT
05-06-2010, 11:12 AM
nawww
just arm all the citizens with Mac 4's and make them a milita
should do nicely and at a fraction of the cost and a better defense as they have a good intrest in thier homeland

Think we had that before. It was called the KKK. Worked REAL good if you were a WASP. Not so good if you were a minority...:D

ozzy
05-06-2010, 11:26 AM
Anyone reading this from Nevada please vote for Brian Sandoval for Governor. He has made it clear he will sign a bill like the one in Arizona if it is put in front of him. If we can get a few more states in the pacific to enact a similar bill we can drive the illegals all into california and break it for good. :rockon:

TomT
05-06-2010, 12:16 PM
Anyone reading this from Nevada please vote for Brian Sandoval for Governor. He has made it clear he will sign a bill like the one in Arizona if it is put in front of him. If we can get a few more states in the pacific to enact a similar bill we can drive the illegals all into california and break it for good. :rockon:

Gee, that'd be great!
Then Nevada wouldn't be known as the "whores and bars" state, but the "whores and Nazis" state.
Yer state Chamber of Commerce will be SO proud...:D

pse 24
05-06-2010, 12:56 PM
Think we had that before. It was called the KKK. Worked REAL good if you were a WASP. Not so good if you were a minority...:D

And the problem is.....???

Daniel Boone
05-06-2010, 01:38 PM
Anyone reading this from Nevada please vote for Brian Sandoval for Governor. He has made it clear he will sign a bill like the one in Arizona if it is put in front of him. If we can get a few more states in the pacific to enact a similar bill we can drive the illegals all into california and break it for good. :rockon:

Im glad to see there will be more states joining Arizona and most of us understand why. To be American (US Citizen) requires a more than crossing the border.:usa:
DB