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bout
08-06-2010, 12:47 PM
what are some good scores? I have to shoot this in a few weeks and I am trying to get an idea of good scores....I nevr got to shoot it last year...thanks

JAVI
08-06-2010, 01:05 PM
From what I can tell it ain't about score... it's about hitting that little dot in the center of the target..

bout
08-06-2010, 01:08 PM
shooting my big BHFS pin so it is not possible to even see the small dot...with my field bow with a 2-6power doughnut hole I see it just fine.

CutTheLoop
08-06-2010, 01:23 PM
shooting my big BHFS pin so it is not possible to even see the small dot...with my field bow with a 2-6power doughnut hole I see it just fine.


Then you may wanna sit this one out. :biggrin1:

bout
08-06-2010, 01:29 PM
I was playing with it and was shooting some scores and I am just centering my pin in the mid. of the target ...and letting it eat :D

MOBuzzCut
08-06-2010, 03:37 PM
what are some good scores? I have to shoot this in a few weeks and I am trying to get an idea of good scores....I nevr got to shoot it last year...thanks

Where is this shoot at Chris?

wilkersonhunter
08-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Where is this shoot at Chris?

i think its in austin texas. btw my name is chris also:lol:

bout
08-09-2010, 08:54 AM
TX labor day weekend

Hoyt1945
08-10-2010, 06:14 AM
The world series of archery is my least favorite archery format. I shoot indoor archery at george dixon's range. When george ordered targets, he didn't realize at the time it would not be a popular format. He ordered too many targets, so we are stuck with shooting the wsoa for one more season.
The thing I don't care for is the total score has nothing to do with who wins. There is a dot in the center of the target.(at 65 years old, I can't see the dot, I just aim at the center of the target) As well as I remember, everyone shoots their last arrow at the dot. If you hit the dot you're in the shoot off regardless of the score you shot. If you shot a perfect score and miss the dot, you are out.--I hear some places this is a popular target, not with me.

elkmaster
08-21-2010, 01:02 AM
When we created this game, we thought we were giving every archer a chance to win! We forgot about the blind one's! You do NOT have to hit the dot (11) to win or advance. The closest to center spot has the same rings around it as the large spots, they are just smaller. To answer your question Chris, it will take a near perfect score at Austin with an 11 on your final arrow to win because so many people will shoot it. You can also pay $10.00 and try to better your score and it will be the only event in the air conditioning! Good Luck Chris!

Hoyt1945
08-21-2010, 07:20 AM
When we created this game, we thought we were giving every archer a chance to win! We forgot about the blind one's! You do NOT have to hit the dot (11) to win or advance. The closest to center spot has the same rings around it as the large spots, they are just smaller. To answer your question Chris, it will take a near perfect score at Austin with an 11 on your final arrow to win because so many people will shoot it. You can also pay $10.00 and try to better your score and it will be the only event in the air conditioning! Good Luck Chris!

I would like someone to explain how the formats works. The way I understand the round is, if a guy shoots a perfect score and misses the dot on his last arrow and a guy shooting next to hims shoots 50 point less but ricochets an arrow off the rafters and hits the dot, he moves on but the guy that shoots perfect is out. Is this correct?

JAVI
08-21-2010, 10:34 AM
I would like someone to explain how the formats works. The way I understand the round is, if a guy shoots a perfect score and misses the dot on his last arrow and a guy shooting next to hims shoots 50 point less but ricochets an arrow off the rafters and hits the dot, he moves on but the guy that shoots perfect is out. Is this correct?

Pretty much.. the first arrows are used to break ties should both hit the little dot..

Fun game... but some folks don't like putting everything on a single shot.. it gets to their nerves...

CutTheLoop
08-21-2010, 12:07 PM
I would like someone to explain how the formats works. The way I understand the round is, if a guy shoots a perfect score and misses the dot on his last arrow and a guy shooting next to hims shoots 50 point less but ricochets an arrow off the rafters and hits the dot, he moves on but the guy that shoots perfect is out. Is this correct?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6VFESb8vw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YulAak1yP8s&feature=related

RageBlood
08-21-2010, 04:51 PM
great links - its clear that this absolutely wouldnt be for me!

elkmaster
08-22-2010, 06:47 AM
Jimmy, Thank You for posting the video links!

elkmaster
08-22-2010, 07:24 AM
Yes Hoyt1945, you are correct. Most tournaments come down to one arrow, this one just identifies which arrow! This format offers any archer, at any level a chance to win! We designed WSOA for the majority of the archers that can't shoot perfect scores, but are good shooters. We have had a ton of positive feedback, please keep ALL feedback coming! Thank You!

CutTheLoop
08-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Jimmy, Thank You for posting the video links!


No problem Bret... videos sure helped answer a lot of questions I still had about the game. Looking forward to shooting some this fall.

RageBlood
08-22-2010, 07:16 PM
Yes Hoyt1945, you are correct. Most tournaments come down to one arrow, this one just identifies which arrow! This format offers any archer, at any level a chance to win! We designed WSOA for the majority of the archers that can't shoot perfect scores, but are good shooters. We have had a ton of positive feedback, please keep ALL feedback coming! Thank You!

I have no problem with a pressure arrow, or if it carried a much higher rating, maybe x2 for e.g., but the fact if you don't match the highest last arrow score - then your whole score is worthless - to me would be frustrating.

I'd still shoot it if there was one near by, but i would't take it anywhere near as seriously as the other formats.

Hoyt1945
08-23-2010, 06:53 AM
I have no problem with a pressure arrow, or if it carried a much higher rating, maybe x2 for e.g., but the fact if you don't match the highest last arrow score - then your whole score is worthless - to me would be frustrating.

I'd still shoot it if there was one near by, but i would't take it anywhere near as seriously as the other formats.

I'm like you, I will shoot the format because I like to shoot. When I do shoot it, I just try shoot the hightest score I can and compare it to the last time I shot. The fact that your score has no bearing on the outcome of the shoot makes no sense.---I don't think this format will be around very long.--Shooting your score and then draw for the winner makes about as much sense.

elkmaster
08-25-2010, 08:06 PM
In a large venue your total score will be huge to make the elimination round. Then again in the elimination round, more times than you would think, it will matter again. In a small league, your total score will mean a lot less. In the leagues I shoot, we never have the same winner and people who have never won anything before, sometimes win.

Hoyt1945
08-26-2010, 10:28 AM
In a large venue your total score will be huge to make the elimination round. Then again in the elimination round, more times than you would think, it will matter again. In a small league, your total score will mean a lot less. In the leagues I shoot, we never have the same winner and people who have never won anything before, sometimes win.

I can see where you have a large league this format would be better. But in our league we only have 10 to 15 shooters and it is not much drama or fun.

CutTheLoop
08-26-2010, 10:40 AM
I can see where you have a large league this format would be better. But in our league we only have 10 to 15 shooters and it is not much drama or fun.


Have everyone swap bows on that last shot. :thumb::biggrin1:

Hoyt1945
08-26-2010, 11:56 AM
Have everyone swap bows on that last shot. :thumb::biggrin1:

CutTheLoop, I think your on to something. That would add comedy to the drama. Would be more interesting for the spectator.

BuckeyeRed
08-26-2010, 01:51 PM
Looks like it could be fun. It would help me maintain focus on every shot. Shooting 5 spot sometimes I will get in a groove around the 8th end and drop an X. Should be a nice way to get the occasional shooter a chance at winning. This would be much less frustrating to lose than losing to hadicap scoring.

Thanks for posting the vids.

CutTheLoop
08-26-2010, 02:14 PM
CutTheLoop, I think your on to something. That would add comedy to the drama. Would be more interesting for the spectator.


More so if you happen to draw swapping with a chew-tab shooter. :D

Hoyt1945
09-06-2010, 06:50 AM
TX labor day weekend

Hey Bout, did you shoot the wsoa tournament, and how did you do? Anyone else shoot?

bout
09-06-2010, 09:52 AM
I Won the 20yard and got a check for $2000.00
And I won 2nd place on the 18M and got a check for $1000.00

I really do not care for the format but I shot it well.

jame
09-06-2010, 11:09 AM
I understand some of you guys concerns on the last arrow. At first I wasnt a fan of the format either and I still get aggrevated at it sometimes. Just cause I shoot a great round to follow it up with a 10 instead of hitting the dot for an 11 but its definately fun and nerve racking. I beleive this was Bradens and Yorks intentions. They definately accomplished this. When you hit the last dot I guarantee you its a sigh of releif.

I had a blast shooting it this weekend for the first time at the Southern Archery Festival and for all you skeptics out there give it a shot cause there was alot of money to be won this past weekend shooting this format. I had a 2nd and 3rd and made $1500 shooting it. Shouldve done better but just didnt have time to reshoot it like others did to better there scores.

All in all its a fun game and gives alot of others a chance to win and it lets everyone watch the guys filled up with nerves. Hitting that last arrow is a great feeling.
Jame

bout
09-06-2010, 11:38 AM
won 3 of the 4 3-d ranges

at $1000.00 per range for winning... I had a great weekend

AND made it to the top 16 and tied 4 times and just got edged out (if you shoot the arrow in the middle someone cant call your arrow out):tape:

jame
09-06-2010, 07:19 PM
Chris you shot well. I was pulling for you to beat Tom cause you are a 3D guy but Tom is a really nice guy. You were so close that I thought it was in. I enjoyed shooting with you and hope we shoot again together in the future.
Jame Jamison

Chris
09-07-2010, 07:53 AM
We just updated 3DShoots.com so they can post their events here.

elkmaster
09-07-2010, 08:53 PM
Thanks Chris, for getting that updated so we can post our schedule.

Thanks to you guys that played a short version of our game. Keep in mind at our normal tournaments, you will be shooting a qualifying round to get into the elimination round. The elimination round will be a head to head, sudden death shoot-off that will consist of 1 end and a final arrow. This will be so intence we may need an ambulance on hand. I assure you we are setting up the Main Event so it will be the most exciting archery tournament you will ever attend! The WSOA Main Event will be hosted by Cinnamon Creek Ranch in Ft Worth, Texas on Dec. 31st - Jan. 2nd 2011.

Daniel Boone
09-07-2010, 09:10 PM
I Won the 20yard and got a check for $2000.00
And I won 2nd place on the 18M and got a check for $1000.00

I really do not care for the format but I shot it well.

I would be happy winning $3000.00:peace:
DB