At BOWMAN's request...

Is Dual Cam or Single Cam Better? You can't say Cam & 1/2!

Vote and Explain!

I like single cam better....

I voted single cam by far. But my XT is the first single I have owned but I absolutely love the feel and ease of tuning with it so thats why I voted the way I did.:rockon:

2 cams for me, never owned a bow with 1, I wont pick the bow just because it has 1 or 2, dont care how may its got as long as i like it and it dose what i need it to....

I had a chance to shoot the new Hoyt and the new Mathews (Dren) side by side recently and it confirmed what I suspected - I simply prefer the single cam. To me the wall is more solid with a single cam and I've grown accustomed to that feel. My first single cam was a PSE and I moved from there to a Mathews, but I've shot several singles and doubles (including cam and a half) since and always come to the same conclusion. That's me - you may be different - only way to know is to shoot them side-by-side.

I seem to like my dual cams more but I think it probably depends on the bow. My cougar mag. I love and shoot well but has a very spongy wall. My E-Force is rock solid and I really like that. I think it helps consistency from shot to shot but like I said I shoot both well. I used to shoot an XI Flatliner for years that had a horrible drop off into the valley but got used to it and killed several deer over the years.

I've shot true dual cams for many years then went to single cams for 4 or 5 years. In 03 I went to cam 1/2s and this year I've sold my remaining single cam bow. They all work and work fine but I prefer duals or cam 1/2s.

I've had all Four, true dual, cam and a half, single and binary cams. Liked them all but perfered either the single or binary cams best. I currently shoot Bowtechs binary cams and IMO they are the best out there. Solocams are very good to but you have to worry about string strech more with them because they have longer strings. I will stick with Bowtechs because of the binary cams which are smooth, very fast and quiet, until someone like Mathews starts using them. Then I'll have a hard time deciding which bow to own!

Shot dualies for about 23 years. Then changed to single cams for about 7 years. Recently, due to better string materials and string manufacturing I've gone back to dualies. Singles are OK, but they bring their own maladies to the bows and subsequent tuning. Cam lean being my biggest issue and that extra long string that can creep more than the short one on dualies. Also, dualies just are more capable of being tweaked a bit and cam lean issues are nil. Plus, I just love being a free thinker and not giving in to all the hype. Anybody can give into the advertising and just follow the crowd.

I like the ease of feel of a single cam like the Bowtech Solitare/Infinity cam or the Ross and Mathews cams but, I also enjoy the ripping speeds of a binary...just wish they felt a lil better on the draw.

you cant beat the ease and how smooth solocams are!:biggrin1:

2.5 are my newest choice. If you want to compare the Mathews solo to the modern Bowtec dually I would choose the dually . Like it or not Mathews is running out of new and improved marketing ideas with the slow cam.

2.5 are my newest choice. If you want to compare the Mathews solo to the modern Bowtec dually I would choose the dually . Like it or not Mathews is running out of new and improved marketing ideas with the slow cam.

when they stop selling come and talk to me.....how many total dartons were sold last year.....now how many Xt's......nuff said......

solo cam (i know i shoot a hoyt,but thats what i sell so thats what i shoot)but i think thr solo cam is esayer to tune.

Like it or not Mathews is running out of new and improved marketing ideas with the slow cam.



That is why they keep adding dampners on :biggrin1:

That is why they keep adding dampners on :biggrin1:

Mdewitt71......cant be all that bad of a design as Ross copied it, almost to a T..Put a 334 next to a switchback or xt andtell me there isnt a stricking resemblance......and thats the bottem line cus I said so....

oh thats right then they copied hoyt and added a built in sts......

Mdewitt71......cant be all that bad of a design as Ross copied it, almost to a T..Put a 334 next to a switchback or xt andtell me there isnt a stricking resemblance......and thats the bottem line cus I said so....

oh thats right then they copied hoyt and added a built in sts......

I didn't say the design was bad........I have owned 3 Mathews in the past (just not a pink one) :biggrin1:

Not too mention Hoyt was not the origin of the built in STS..........in fact the STS is even a copy of a suppressor that came out in 1998.

I didn't say the design was bad........I have owned 3 Mathews in the past (just not a pink one) :biggrin1:

Not too mention Hoyt was not the origin of the built in STS..........in fact the STS is even a copy of a suppressor that came out in 1998.

you have not owned until you have owned pink:biggrin1:

and also never said that hoyt invented the sts......just the original built in sts was high was it not???

I was simply stating that they copied the built in sts in that location.....seems kinda funny to me.....

...seems kinda funny to me.....

I'm sure anything NOT Mathews seems kind of funny to you. :tape:

I'm sure anything NOT Mathews seems kind of funny to you. :tape:

please dont accuse if you do not know what you are talking about.....

I my humble experience marketing and the heard instinct are the largest factors in sales. Marketing is what Mathews does better than any one {maybe every one} else. They truly do produce a great product that some like my self might think is a bit over rated. The new Pro series cams from Darton compared to what ever choice Mathews cam? Efficiency,Draw cycle , let off and speed with all other factors being the same? Being objective it would be difficult for me see the advantage of the single track idler wheel designs.

Single Cam by far. I own a Hoyt with the cam and 1/2 and a Browning Illusion with the single cam.

i am a dually man. Just like that cripsness of the snap when they both hit at the end of a shot and the cam lean is another issue with me. HS

Just purchased the Bowtech Tribute after shooting the PSE Bruin for a year, wow what a difference. I always thought the single cam was the way to go but, this bow seems very smooth and darn quite. So I guess I would have to vote for dual Cam. Joe

I like a single...:biggrin1:

I like a single...:biggrin1:

but isnt that darton you shoot......oh never mind....:doh:

but isnt that darton you shoot......oh never mind....:doh:
It's a...your right, never mind

but isnt that darton you shoot......oh never mind....:doh:

He said he likes he did not say he shoots a......................oh never mind:tape:

In my limited time here, I have a bit of info that my be interesting tosome people. Since Bowman sounds like he has stock in Mathews, I have him in the beginners forum defending dual cams
I simply can not beleive that this would hold true today.....not saying he is lieing but a single cam can be out of optimum perfomance.....]
:hug:

Try reading this info

2007 PRO SERIES 2-1/2 CAM TECHINICAL BULLETIN, 0012507
DARTON is again setting a new standard by which other bows will be compared. We have taken the Controlled
Power System to another level with our NEW 2-1/2 CAM design.
What is the 2-1/2 Cam? If you have been in archery long enough you are familiar with 2 Cam bows. A 2 Cam bow
used a 2-groove design for each cam, one groove for the bowstring let-out and a second groove for the power cable
take-up that was used to stress the limbs. The opposite end of the power cable was anchored to the axle to minimize
the effect of any out of balance in the limbs and/or cam timing. As cam designs advanced and the need for more
stored energy and let-off took place the short coming of the traditional 2 cam design became apparent. Cam timing
became critical to good shooting and string creep became critical to maintaining good cam timing. This opened the
door to various new hybrid cam designs in an attempt to over come each of these problems to various degrees. The
New 2-1/2 Cam has effectively eliminated all of the 2 cam problems and made a cam system that is less critical than
any other hybrid system to date. The new 2-1/2 Cam design includes a 3rd groove on each cam that is used to couple
the two cams together so they function as a slave to each other. Because of the 3rd groove on each end of the bow
increasing the groove count by ½ we have used the term 2-1/2 Cam to describe the system.
The advantages of DARTON’S NEW design will be very apparent once you shoot any of DARTON’S NEW 2-1/2
CAM bows. They are quieter, smoother and faster than what you expect from any bow. Unlike a 2 Cam Bow, if the
cams are not in sync there is no bump from the draw stops and the nock travel does not jump up or down. No matter
how hard you pull against the draw stops or how far you are from optimum tune the nock travel and stored energy is
smooth and predictable. All of this adds up to a new level of shoot-ability.
In addition to the obvious advantages of DARTON’S 2-1/2 CAM design for the shooter there are also inherent design
advantages. By having a second let-out groove on each cam controlling the cable wrap of the power cable on the
module we are able to control limb stress better and have larger radiuses for the power cable to wrap for longer cable
life. There are no trade off’s, after all of this we still get a high level of stored energy.
The PRO SERIES utilize a yoke system on each end of the bow to anchor the Power Cables to the cams. This
feature increases the stability of the limbs by minimizing any torque created by the cam as the bow is drawn and
shot.
Each 2-1/2 CAM bow has an adjustable peak weight range of 10 pounds. To make an adjustment to peak weight
first make sure the set screws in the limb washers are not tight. Next you need to be sure the 2 screws used to lock
each of the pivoting limb pockets in place are loosened up (1/2 turn). After you are certain all adjustment locking
screws have been loosened you want to tighten your limbs Clock Wise (CW) to be sure they are adjusted evenly.
Count the bolt turns when you tighten the limbs down so you know where you started. A maximum of 4 Counter
Clock Wise (CCW) turns from the tightened position is recommended; more than 4 Counter Clock Wise (CCW) turns
will cause the screws to bind in the adjustment slots at the side of the limb pockets and may cause damage to the
bow. Be sure to re-tighten all adjustment locking screw when limb adjustment is completed.
No bow press is required to change the draw lengths of a 2-1/2 CAM bow. All you need to do is swap modules. Refer
to the accompanying chart to determine the correct module for your draw length. There is no need to retune the bow
after the draw length is changed.
DARTON has included their patented Tuning Mark System on all 2-1/2 CAM bows to assist the individual
shooter/tuner in getting optimum performance. By lining up the power cables between the tuning lines on each cam
you will get the advertised draw lengths and performance. The cable lengths are adjusted by first putting the bow in a
press to remove tension from the cables. The cables are then adjusted by twisting to make them shorter and
untwisting to make them longer. If they are not lined up or in the same relative position on each cam you will loose
some draw length and stored energy. The shoot-ability will remain the same. Be sure the axle to axle measurement
is checked after the bow is tuned. The correct measurement will assure good performance.
MODEL module #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 Axle – Axle Bowstring Power Cable
Draw lengths
PRO 2000 26” 27” 28” 29” 30” 31” 34 3/8” 58 11/16” 33 3/16”
PRO 3000 25” 26” 27” 28” 29” 30” 34 3/8” 58 11/16” 33 3/16”
PRO 4000 27” 28” 29” 30” 31” 32” 37” 60 7/16” 35 3/4”
PRO 5000 28-1/2” 29-1/2” 30-1/2” 31-1/2” 32-1/2” 33-1/2” 39 1/4” 62 1/2” 37 11/16”