Give me your opinions....is the 17hmr..... or.....17 mach 2 too much for tree rats???

I can get a great deal on a 17 right now but if its too much for tree rats I would rather spend my money in another direction at this point....

also what is the real differences between the 17hmr and the 17mach2???

also gave options for the other 2 favorite tree rats in this area....

The .17 is a great caliber for rats...
the difference between the 2 is the 17hmr is a necked down 22wmr(magnum) and the 17mach2 is a necked down 22lr...they both have good ballistics...
the big difference between .22 and .17 is ammo price...22lr is still the cheapest but 17hmr is better long range...

I would go .17hmr...What brand are you looking at?

good question, I guess I am open to any brand but would like to spend less than 5 for gun scope and acouple of boxes of ammo....

Savage model 93 is a good one...some of the best barrels out there and the new rimfires have the real accutrigger now you can turn that down to like 2# of trigger pull and they run $250-$400 depending on the package you want...

http://www.savagearms.com/93r17BTVS.htm This is my personal favorite...

the scope I am looking at is the sweet 17 from BSA....40mm retails for 150...I know GM probably has it cheaper....I think the bow shop I work at may be able to get it also.....but I think I will be recieving gift certificates to GM so I think I will get it there.....

so scope say roughly 150.....
so looking to spend 300 or less on the gun....preferably w/ a medium heavy barrel....any suggestions???

Savage model 93 is a good one...some of the best barrels out there and the new rimfires have the real accutrigger now you can turn that down to like 2# of trigger pull and they run $250-$400 depending on the package you want...

http://www.savagearms.com/93r17BTVS.htm This is my personal favorite...

thumb hole stocks dont feel right to me...do you know any place that has one of these I can feel....

the scope I am looking at is the sweet 17 from BSA....40mm retails for 150...I know GM probably has it cheaper....I think the bow shop I work at may be able to get it also.....but I think I will be recieving gift certificates to GM so I think I will get it there.....

so scope say roughly 150.....
so looking to spend 300 or less on the gun....preferably w/ a medium heavy barrel....any suggestions???
http://www.savagearms.com/93r17gv.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/93r17fv.htm
These are the varmint barrels...

thumb hole stocks dont feel right to me...do you know any place that has one of these I can feel....
GM has a couple and the Thruway market has a bunch of stuff... Dick's is pretty good for them also...

GM has a couple and the Thruway market has a bunch of stuff... Dick's is pretty good for them also...

they have that thumb hole stock Savage 17????
I really like the look but would like to feel it before having someone order it for me....

now I have to decide wood and blue or syn and chrome....

they have that thumb hole stock Savage 17????
I really like the look but would like to feel it before having someone order it for me....
I know the Thruway has it and I've seen it at GM Middletown, not sure about Kingston...Dick's has a couple non-thumbholes...

I know the Thruway has it and I've seen it at GM Middletown, not sure about Kingston...Dick's has a couple non-thumbholes...

I guess i need to get on the phone to thruway and see if they have one in stock......I am really liking that one......would be going over budget but hey we have to splurge now and then

I guess i need to get on the phone to thruway and see if they have one in stock......I am really liking that one......would be going over budget but hey we have to splurge now and then
They have a thumbhole/blue that's like $50 cheaper than the stainless I think...like $350 instead of $400...

They have a thumbhole/blue that's like $50 cheaper than the stainless I think...like $350 instead of $400...

sweet I just want to see one and hold it in the mits before I get Gander to order it.....

Bowman the Bass Pro Shop has a very good scope for this type of setup for only$79.00. It is a variable to 10 power with a 50mm size. i use one on a Savage 22 mag. I popped a bird at 120 yards the other day:nod: .i just held high on the kill zone. The scope has very clear optics for the bucks.HS

Bowman the Bass Pro Shop has a very good scope for this type of setup for only$79.00. It is a variable to 10 power with a 50mm size. i use one on a Savage 22 mag. I popped a bird at 120 yards the other day:nod: .i just held high on the kill zone. The scope has very clear optics for the bucks.HS

whats the model and do you havea link for them......who makes it????

I have a Savage 17 HMR Modle 93. and it's a great gun. Shoot a few coy's w/ it and a few tree rats. Bowman go w/ the syn and chrome. I think you will like that combo.

go with the .22lr. Cheap as hell ammo and the .17 is great at ranges... but how far away are you going to be shooting rats at? Anything under 50 - 75 yards you'll drop them with the .22 and you get a box of 500 rounds for like 5 bux

What the heck is going on here???

I think this thread should be in the off topic section not the Bowhunters & Bow Hunting forum.:doh:

What the heck is going on here???

I think this thread should be in the off topic section not the Bowhunters & Bow Hunting forum.:doh:

well you tell me how to get something on there faster and I will.....some idiots come on here and ruin it for everyone....we are be punished for them being jerk offs......so then they just go into all the other forums....

I think we need a general HUNTING section....I mean we have had a few gun threads now.....

so how about it Chris.....I think we need another member to check the threads (NOT ME).....it seems that sometimes you are very busy and I understand that....

Bowman I googled bass pro shop scopes and this page came up I tried to get all to you maybe you want to google it. Yhere seems to be a price reduction on the 3-9 modle or the $99 is a good looking scope. Hope this helps. HS
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I found the last 93r17btvs within 100 miles....going to look at it tonight or in the am.....if I like it I am bringing it home....

http://www.savagearms.com/93r17BTVS.htm

they have it for $319 plus the guy told me it was the display model so another $20 off.........

and for now I have a Simmons 4-12X50 that I am taking off of my Model 10 tactical while it is at the gun smith.......may need to keep that bipod I have on there too.....

I bought the thumb-hole and she's an awesome,flat shooting , fun little rifle, love mine and would recomend it to anyone, its the savage with bull barrel, I put a nikon B.D.C. scope on her and at 100 yds its on the money, tree rats may require a head shot though.:cool:

I bought the thumb-hole and she's an awesome,flat shooting , fun little rifle, love mine and would recomend it to anyone, its the savage with bull barrel, I put a nikon B.D.C. scope on her and at 100 yds its on the money, tree rats may require a head shot though.:cool:
Is there any other way???? :biggrin1:

Is there any other way???? :biggrin1:

well depending onif you want to deal with gutting, skinning, and eating.....them little buggers....you may want to texas heart shot them all.....:biggrin1: :biggrin1:

well depending onif you want to deal with gutting, skinning, and eating.....them little buggers....you may want to texas heart shot them all.....:biggrin1: :biggrin1:
I got bored the other day so I shot 1 w/ a muzzy 3 blade...he was head down towards me, so I went for the head shot...cut him stem to stern...No guttin reqired and no damage to meat...It was awsome :biggrin1:

well depending onif you want to deal with gutting, skinning, and eating.....them little buggers....you may want to texas heart shot them all.....:biggrin1: :biggrin1:
I got a friend that eats them, I just shoot'em(I'll eat them every now and then) But I used to sell the tails to Mepps (haven't for a few years)...

Here's a link...http://www.mepps.com/mepps/information/squirrels/

I got a friend that eats them, I just shoot'em(I'll eat them every now and then) But I used to sell the tails to Mepps (haven't for a few years)...

Here's a link...http://www.mepps.com/mepps/information/squirrels/

I got a freind trying to trap a Fisher and they love tree rats....so I may just need to get a few for him to start with.....