Im playing around with backtension(for the 2nd time) and not having much luck.(for the 2nd time)

Im playing around with backtension(for the 2nd time) and not having much luck.(for the 2nd time)

and suggestions?????

hmm ......give up:noidea: :noidea:

just kiddin, hit the blank bail time out range.....

and suggestions?????

hmm ......give up:noidea: :noidea:

just kiddin, hit the blank bail time out range.....

Yeah, I did for the first 75 shots. I think I need to do it some more. I think I'm not relaxing my hand enough.

Set the releaes very slow and shoot only blank bale till you get used to it.

Yeah, I did for the first 75 shots. I think I need to do it some more. I think I'm not relaxing my hand enough.

It's easing the hand and pulling through. Think of only pausing the draw to achieve your "sight picture" and then continue to pull slightly as you ease the tension in the index and middle finger. Unless you have some sort of restraint, I don't like the term "relax" as a BT device could be hurled at the target along with your arrow!

Good luck. Blind bail (cover or remove sight) from 3 yards for 2 weeks every night (20-30 arrows) until you feel comfortable... then introduce a target & sights @ 5 yards.... then 10 then 20....etc.

Thanks for the help!

Hey Dano c4 you can try this set it alittle heavy for while. Draw your bow, settle in then start pushing your bow hand at the same time pull with your release hand make it feel like your trying to push the pin into the target concentrait only on the pin. Its what I do maybe it will help you.

Hey, this is good advoce guys and the question came up before I had a chance to ask it.
I'm getting ready to try out my Solution 3 in back tension mode. I'm working on getting up the guts to try it... Maybe a few more cans of spinach will do the trick.

Wish me luck !

Ron

Here is a word from the Olympic coach Al Henderson that really works.... Think about putting a little pressure on you bowhand thumd tip now put some on you release arm at the very tip point of the elbow ..... now relax that wrist and .....squeese that trigger. Remember think about putting it there not much more that a thought will do..... This sets up the proper pressure on your 2 shoulder blades as they pull together

Archery is a 2 point pressure system.....you must have equal pressure on the bow arm and the release arm for the arrow to go striagth.... Clear as mud..... thats what I thought.....HS

Hey, this is good advoce guys and the question came up before I had a chance to ask it.
I'm getting ready to try out my Solution 3 in back tension mode. I'm working on getting up the guts to try it... Maybe a few more cans of spinach will do the trick.

Wish me luck !

Ron



Eat mor spiniach :laugh: :laugh: HS

Eat mor spiniach :laugh: :laugh: HS

I had some in my salad at lunch. I hope it's not tainted...
:laugh:

Ron

I had some in my salad at lunch. I hope it's not tainted...
:laugh:

Ron

:puke: :puke:

:puke: :puke:

:pound: :pound: HS

I started with a TRU Ball Ultra Sweet Spot II three finger and my Bernie Laz-air shot trainer. I did not like the idea of a arrow flying of into what ever on the draw cycle. Using the shot trainer allowed me just to concentrate on the release. The I worked on the aiming. After many nights just before bed I shot 10+ times and got very comfortable with it. I now shoot a three finger Zenith rather well and look to move to a two finger in the future. I still have the shot trainer if your interested.

:puke: :puke:

Bowman, now that's funny...
I'm still hanging in there so the spinach in my salad was likely not tainted with E Coli... Thank heaven...
:laugh:

Ron

I think that your real question is "why shoot back tension?".

If your accuracy is good enough for what you want to do with archery, don't bother. There is no reason to learn a technique that while easy to learn, is pretty difficult to master.

However, if you are not satisfied with what you are doing now, then the purpose of back tension is to reduce the amount of movement while executing your release.

To paraphrase one of America's greatest coaches -The skill of archery is to maintain stillness during the execution of a shot. Once you are set and settled your pin on the target, you want to execute your release without anything moving that will take your pin off of the target.

Shooting without back tension usually involves contracting the longer muscles in your release arm and the muscles in your release hand. These muscles are relatively far away from your spine and the contraction of them tends to cause more movement, making it more difficult to keep your pin on the target. Also, since they are further away from your spine, there is often some negative affect on your balance.

Back tension utilizes the shorter muscles of your back (primarily the rhomboids) to execute the release. These are also closer to your spine.

The result is that there is less movement from the contraction of short muscles than from contraction of long muscles. Then when you add in better balance from being closer to the spine, you get a shooting technique that makes it easier to stay still and on target.

The critical thing to learning back tension is to have your draw length set correctly. A general rule is to set it so that the bottom of the nock groove is directly below the pupil of your aiming eye at full draw. That's just a place to start and as you learn BT you may want to adjust it.

Back tension execution is actually pretty simple. Once you get to full draw, simply move your bow arm elbow straight back in line with the arrow while maintaining your anchor. This will automatically utilize the correct muscles for back tension. You will probably have to adjust the travel on your release to keep your execution as smooth and strong as possible.

This is a lot easier to learn with a loop of rope set to your draw length than with your bow.

The goal is to take this technique to the point that you do it subconsciously which leaves your mind free to focus on the target.

There is a lot more to this that you will learn as you develop a backtension shot, but this will get you started.

Also, backtension release execution is only part of a good shot. You have a lot of other things in your shot sequence to learn to have the best shot possible for you.

Good luck
Allen

I think that your real question is "why shoot back tension?".

If your accuracy is good enough for what you want to do with archery, don't bother. There is no reason to learn a technique that while easy to learn, is pretty difficult to master.

However, if you are not satisfied with what you are doing now, then the purpose of back tension is to reduce the amount of movement while executing your release.

To paraphrase one of America's greatest coaches -The skill of archery is to maintain stillness during the execution of a shot. Once you are set and settled your pin on the target, you want to execute your release without anything moving that will take your pin off of the target.

Shooting without back tension usually involves contracting the longer muscles in your release arm and the muscles in your release hand. These muscles are relatively far away from your spine and the contraction of them tends to cause more movement, making it more difficult to keep your pin on the target. Also, since they are further away from your spine, there is often some negative affect on your balance.

Back tension utilizes the shorter muscles of your back (primarily the rhomboids) to execute the release. These are also closer to your spine.

The result is that there is less movement from the contraction of short muscles than from contraction of long muscles. Then when you add in better balance from being closer to the spine, you get a shooting technique that makes it easier to stay still and on target.

The critical thing to learning back tension is to have your draw length set correctly. A general rule is to set it so that the bottom of the nock groove is directly below the pupil of your aiming eye at full draw. That's just a place to start and as you learn BT you may want to adjust it.

Back tension execution is actually pretty simple. Once you get to full draw, simply move your bow arm elbow straight back in line with the arrow while maintaining your anchor. This will automatically utilize the correct muscles for back tension. You will probably have to adjust the travel on your release to keep your execution as smooth and strong as possible.

This is a lot easier to learn with a loop of rope set to your draw length than with your bow.

The goal is to take this technique to the point that you do it subconsciously which leaves your mind free to focus on the target.

There is a lot more to this that you will learn as you develop a backtension shot, but this will get you started.

Also, backtension release execution is only part of a good shot. You have a lot of other things in your shot sequence to learn to have the best shot possible for you.

Good luck
Allen

That's a lot of info! Nice write up Allen!

Thanks to everyone for the help!!:rockon:

Thanks to everyone for the help!!:rockon:

Shouldn't you be blind bailing???? :biggrin1:

Shouldn't you be blind bailing???? :biggrin1:

Well, I shot it Wed. night, but switched bows for 3d, so I didn't use the bt today. I'm getting better with it, slowly but surely.

Shouldn't you be blind bailing???? :biggrin1:
Yeah...Less typing more shooting......Now get outside and practice young man!!!:biggrin1: :biggrin1:

Have you read "Core Archery" by Larry Wise. It is a very good book on BT and other form related topics. It's only like $15. I'm reading it again and noticing things I missed the first time.

Have you read "Core Archery" by Larry Wise. It is a very good book on BT and other form related topics. It's only like $15. I'm reading it again and noticing things I missed the first time.
Some of those big words can be tough the first time.....:biggrin1:

Some of those big words can be tough the first time.....:biggrin1:

Your telling me ussin hoosiers are havins trubles. Like rhomboids???????:laugh:

You my want to read Core Archery by Larry Wise:cool:

Been using an Evo + Close as I've ever come to executing a correct shot. Still working with it , but getting more consistant. Good Luck

You my want to read Core Archery by Larry Wise:cool:

Hey thats a good idea there Alan.:cool:

By the way howdy there my name is Frank and I'd like to say :welcome: to the forum. Its pretty friendly place around here just enjoy yourself and post away.:peace:

Your telling me ussin hoosiers are havins trubles. Like rhomboids???????:laugh:

Here all this time I was squeezin the cheeks together, I thought they said hemroids.:doh:

That's a lot of info! Nice write up Allen!

Its not a matter of mastering BT. Its a matter if you want to become more consistant and better shooter. And its not terribly difficult to learn either. Its all a matter of getting proper instruction. I have taught 10 years olds to shoot BT in a week pretty decent.. Just walking in blind and trying to shoot back tension w/ either a wrist strap trigger style or a true-tension BT release will give more head aches than results. More often than not!!! Buy or rent a few videos on the practice and technique. Like the strickland ones are good.
good luck!!1

Here all this time I was squeezin the cheeks together, I thought they said hemroids.:doh:

:doh: Like I said its always a good idea to reread it.:laugh: