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Southernfryedyankee
04-02-2007, 09:23 AM
I am currently using .029 and may want to convert to .019

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 09:44 AM
I am currently using .029 and may want to convert to .019

I beleive it will for it gives you a more precise aiming point....

I think I am going to try a .010 pin.....

Ronhop
04-02-2007, 09:58 AM
I am currently using .029 and may want to convert to .019

It should unless you have a tuning or target panic issue.
I use .019. I shot a bow last weekend with .029 pins and it looked strange to me even though that's what I used for quite a while...

Hey Bowman, who makes .010 fiber ? That would be interesting to try out.

Ron

Dredly
04-02-2007, 12:06 PM
you should be able to see the X better :)

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 01:04 PM
It should unless you have a tuning or target panic issue.
I use .019. I shot a bow last weekend with .029 pins and it looked strange to me even though that's what I used for quite a while...

Hey Bowman, who makes .010 fiber ? That would be interesting to try out.

Ron

Extreme makes .010 pins...and I thought that Viper did also.....there are a few companies that do.....

jcmorgan31
04-02-2007, 02:04 PM
Viper does make .010 pins......:peace:

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 02:10 PM
Viper does make .10 pins......:peace:

umm .10 would be bigger than a .019 wouldnt it????

look about half way down the linked page.....its .010, which is smaller than.019? correct....maybe I am confused???

http://www.extremearchery.com/new_products.html

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 02:11 PM
not trying to start a fight here....just so everyone knows...I am just trying to get the smallest pin available.....:noidea:

Scope Fire-Lite Up Pin
for 3-D & Target Scopes.
Available in .010 and .019
(Red or Green)

:noidea:

jcmorgan31
04-02-2007, 02:12 PM
what are you talking about? I said .010....:biggrin1:

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 02:13 PM
what are you talking about? I said .010....:biggrin1:

liar!!!!!!:biggrin1:

look in my qouted post you bum....you went back and edited it....:laugh:

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 02:14 PM
Viper does make .010 pins......
__________________
Mathews Ovation....................Mathews Apex 7
.................Copper John ANTS Evo2.................
Mathews HD Convertible............Ripcord Dropaway
..............Doinker Carbon Elite, 30".....................
Easton X7 Eclipse 2613s.............Easton Fatboy 400s

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UPSTATE
04-02-2007, 02:23 PM
A .010 pin is nearly half the diameter of a .019 pin. The numbers mean one thousands of an inch. A 10 of thousand of an inch pin is 9 one thousand of an inch smaller than a 19 one thousand pin.

Actually I'm not sure if its inches or centemeters but the rules still apply.

Holy Smokes
04-02-2007, 05:01 PM
not trying to start a fight here....just so everyone knows...I am just trying to get the smallest pin available.....:noidea:

Scope Fire-Lite Up Pin
for 3-D & Target Scopes.
Available in .010 and .019
(Red or Green)

:noidea:

Oh for tha virtality and clears eyes of tha youth!

Ronhop
04-02-2007, 05:03 PM
liar!!!!!!:biggrin1:

look in my qouted post you bum....you went back and edited it....:laugh:

YEAH ! Busted !
I believe I caught that too.... I 'm just a kinder-gentler person than Bowman...
:laugh:

Ron

kbohunt
04-02-2007, 06:19 PM
you should be able to see the X better :)

I agree with dred.
I looked at scopes to find the smallest dot in it.
it help's you see the x better & you can put it inside a 12ring at 45yds on 3-x scope.
1 i had the dot was to big & filled the ring.:peace:

jcmorgan31
04-02-2007, 08:08 PM
I never can sneak my edits by anybody....:noidea:



Viper does make .010 pins......
__________________
Mathews Ovation....................Mathews Apex 7
.................Copper John ANTS Evo2.................
Mathews HD Convertible............Ripcord Dropaway
..............Doinker Carbon Elite, 30".....................
Easton X7 Eclipse 2613s.............Easton Fatboy 400s

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STRO
04-02-2007, 08:33 PM
I switched to the .019 pins last summer and could tell a difference. the pin didn't cover the 12 ring as much, it's like fine tuning your accuracy.

whitetail99
04-02-2007, 08:43 PM
I am currently using .029 and may want to convert to .019

I shoot a .010 pin for hunting and 3D and it the best for my shooting requirements. Check out the Sword 3rd plane with .010 pins.

Pinwheel1969
04-02-2007, 09:06 PM
I dont use a pin for spots. I use a dot w/ a outside ring.

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 09:13 PM
I dont use a pin for spots. I use a dot w/ a outside ring.

I need to experiment w/some dots and rings.....

Pinwheel1969
04-02-2007, 09:24 PM
I need to experiment w/some dots and rings.....

alot easier to fix on the X. Since you cant see it. I find it more of a mental battle w/ a pin. So much target to get your pin to float on. W/ a dot it doesnt seem to float as much!! but its more mental in your mind!!! But I like it alot better. It took me a few days to get used to it. But I really improved my scores. I was averaging 300 w/ 56-58 X's. nows its more like 58 to 60 x

BowhuntnHoosier
04-02-2007, 09:35 PM
alot easier to fix on the X. Since you cant see it. I find it more of a mental battle w/ a pin. So much target to get your pin to float on. W/ a dot it doesnt seem to float as much!! but its more mental in your mind!!! But I like it alot better. It took me a few days to get used to it. But I really improved my scores. I was averaging 300 w/ 56-58 X's. nows its more like 58 to 60 x

Where can I pick up some dots and rings??? Sounds like something I need to try.:noidea:

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 09:40 PM
Where can I pick up some dots and rings??? Sounds like something I need to try.:noidea:

you can buy sheets of them from Lancaster.......

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 09:45 PM
heres an example.....plus there are many more....

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=39_314_101&products_id=2734

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 09:46 PM
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/default.php?cPath=39_314_101

this is the link i should have posted.....:doh:

BowhuntnHoosier
04-02-2007, 09:54 PM
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/default.php?cPath=39_314_101

this is the link i should have posted.....:doh:

Hmm..........$8.00 for about 20 dots sounds like a good price to me gonna check the dealer and see if he has any in stock. Thanks buddy:peace:

BUNNYMAN
04-02-2007, 10:02 PM
Hmm..........$8.00 for about 20 dots sounds like a good price to me gonna check the dealer and see if he has any in stock. Thanks buddy:peace:

I think some of those circles w/a dot inside look pretty cool.....:noidea:

BowhuntnHoosier
04-02-2007, 10:15 PM
I think some of those circles w/a dot inside look pretty cool.....:noidea:

Yes they do look very cool and if they would help me hold on the target better that would be great.:peace:

bone collector 9615
04-02-2007, 11:07 PM
It should unless you have a tuning or target panic issue.
Ron

this may sound stupid but what do you guys mean by target panic?
when I shoot at a 3-d target or when i shoot an animal I am fine. But when I shoot at a bullseye target I have some minor (I hope) troubles. so help me out my bow totin brethrin. What are the signs and symptoms and is there a CURE?:noidea:

BUNNYMAN
04-03-2007, 08:06 AM
this may sound stupid but what do you guys mean by target panic?
when I shoot at a 3-d target or when i shoot an animal I am fine. But when I shoot at a bullseye target I have some minor (I hope) troubles. so help me out my bow totin brethrin. What are the signs and symptoms and is there a CURE?:noidea:

blank bail time out range..........:biggrin1:

STRO
04-03-2007, 08:46 AM
the definition of target panic is == Clover & Oats, (me)

My problem was that I was trying to hold my pin dead still and not let it float around the 12. I would get my pin right under the 12 and it was stuck there. It got so bad I would try to time my jerk. I am mentally now trying tell myself that it is ok to let the pin float. I've been working on this in my basement by just drawing back, let the pin float on the 12 for 5-8 seconds and then letting down. It's all mental

BUNNYMAN
04-03-2007, 08:51 AM
the definition of target panic is == Clover & Oats, (me)

My problem was that I was trying to hold my pin dead still and not let it float around the 12. I would get my pin right under the 12 and it was stuck there. It got so bad I would try to time my jerk. I am mentally now trying tell myself that it is ok to let the pin float. I've been working on this in my basement by just drawing back, let the pin float on the 12 for 5-8 seconds and then letting down. It's all mental

yup what he said.....that goes for me also....

bullspotter
04-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I dont think in my case a smaller pin helps me, as i cant see the x at 20 yards any ways, i just center my pin in the target and hold their, a slightly bigger pin, is easier to center. if its centerd, or close it will hit the x.....