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    Man if this is true I voting for somebody else and it ani't a women

    President Obama?

    Michael Reisig is a local author of several books about the 'end of
    times'. You can find his books at www.michael-reisig.com or www.amazon.com.
    He is also the editor of our paper The Polk County Pulse in Mena,
    Arkansas where he wrote this article. I have heard some of these things
    before about Obama but Michael put a different angle on it. A little
    long, but a good read.

    This was in the paper on February 20, 2008...
    President Obama.
    By Mi chael Reisig

    Well, having observed the progress of the Democrat and Republican
    Primaries I would have to say at this point, America is probably close
    to electing Barak Hussein Obama as its next president. I understand the
    need for change - but for all my observation of Obama I have yet to hear
    any decisive, detailed plans - it all seems to be continual rhetoric on
    the concept of change.

    I t's all rather a puzzlement to me, and more than anything I think this
    phenomena is representative of the new Survivor/ Oprah Winfrey/American
    I dol consciousness (where the bizarre is applauded as reality and image
    is more im portant than substance), and it is undoubtedly brought about
    by the overwhelming dissatisfaction Americans have for a government that
    has cheated, lied and stolen from them for at least the last two
    generations.

    But for minorities, and in particular blacks, this election represents a
    moment of long-awaited validation. There is no question that the
    election of an African-American president will empower the blacks of
    this country.
    Don't misunderstand me - this is not a racist statement, this is just a
    fact, and in many respects this could be a good thing. But there is no
    denying the sense of audacious rebellion that constantly simmers in much
    of the black community, particularly with the youth of the large
    metropolitan areas. I have some concern that the election of a black
    president will take us back to a consciousness that promotes the power
    of race over intelligence, reason, and the value of l aw, and that this
    may divide black and whites more than uniting them. I hope that I 'm
    wrong.

    Obama speaks a lot about a uniting of black and white America , but the
    church he has attended for years would contradict that. Although you
    won't hear much of this on national television, one has but to go to
    Obama's church of choice, Trinity United Church of Christ (go to the
    website to check for yourself) to find, and I quote, "An unabashedly
    black congregation with a non-negotiable commitment to Africa . "An
    African people, 'true to our native land, the mother continent, the
    cradle of civilization."

    Nowhere in the website is America even mentioned. Can you imagine if
    one of the other white candidates for president were a member of a
    church that declared itself "unashamedly white?" What would the media
    have done to them already?

    I was also startled by a number of the points in Trinity United Church 's
    10-Point Vision:

    *A congregation with a Non-negotiable Commitment to Africa .
    *A congregation committed to Cultural Education ( Africa ).
    *A congregation committed to the Historical Education of African People
    in Diaspora.
    *A congregation committed to Liberation.
    *A congregation committed to Restoration. (Could this mean
    restitution?)

    I n addition, Trinity's senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., is
    considered by many to be a black racist, who, without question, preaches
    radical Afro-centric theology.

    I t appears, by affiliation, that we have a man who wants to be president
    of America while much of his loyalty is invested in black Africa .

    But there is also a deeper, perhaps darker consequence in terms of
    America and its multi-national population when we consider Mr. Obama as
    our new leader.

    I nvestigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
    I slamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
    who had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical
    W ahabbi Muslim. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
    extremist who lived in I ndonesia . When Obama's mother moved to
    I ndonesia - before she married her second Muslim husband - she enrolled
    her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School . He was enrolled as a Muslim
    because he was a Muslim.

    Obama's campaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
    candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
    online outreach, "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" proposes installing
    Muslim prayer area s in public places and giving Muslims time off for
    prayer, and has denounced Obama's colleagues in the U.S. Senate who
    happen to be Jewish.

    Further troubling are the issues and solutions on this site:
    1. A Law against harassment of Muslim women wearing Hijab at the
    Airport, DMV and other public arenas.
    2. I nstitute a Law to allow Muslim Employees to take an hour off
    from
    work for Friday Jummah Prayer.
    3. Make the 2 Eid's (Muslim festivals), recognized National
    Holidays
    on Calendars with days off from work.
    4. Optional Halal meals in federal building, public schools and
    colleges.
    5. Provide prayer areas suitable for Salah and Jummah, in public
    and
    private facilities. (i.e. Malls, Airports, Universities and government
    buildings.)
    6. Organize a Muslim American group to assist in recommendations
    for
    US foreign policy affecting majority Muslim Countries.

    I have to wonder how many encampments of I slamic extremists hidden in
    the hills of Afghanistan and quiet rooms of Baghdad and Tehran listen to
    the news of America 's primary elections with unadulterated glee,
    considering first, that we may have a president who has virtually no
    experience in managing a government, or attending to military/
    international affairs, and secondly; the chance (as remote as it is) of
    a quasi-Muslim president of the United States .

    Think of the possibilities.
    I have sent this to almost everyone I know. I f you agree with this, I
    hope you will do the same, or at least make sure you vote. I t really
    scares me to think of Obama being president. I t's time we as Christians
    stand up and let our voices be heard. Let's stop being the silent
    majority!



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    interesting...I know this isn't AT, but over there they're looking at banning folks who keep passing Obama off as a muslim.....mostly because they're funny about lying over there, and don't like it.
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    Great post Smokes
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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    interesting...I know this isn't AT, but over there they're looking at banning folks who keep passing Obama off as a muslim.....mostly because they're funny about lying over there, and don't like it.
    could you make your post a little clearer?? PLEASE......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    could you make your post a little clearer?? PLEASE......

    this has been a pretty common e-lie circulating; it's well-established Obama is not a muslim, and while there's plenty of reasons to philosophically disagree and dislike him, the muslim card is a plain lie.

    Just wondering what the rules here are about lying and false statements on political figures; I'm not gonna vote McCain, but there's a big difference between me saying I feel he's too likely to be beholden to the far-right and I disagree with him on Iraq, and posting that he's a homosexual or an IV drug user. Saying Obama is a muslim is the same sort of lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    this has been a pretty common e-lie circulating; it's well-established Obama is not a muslim, and while there's plenty of reasons to philosophically disagree and dislike him, the muslim card is a plain lie.

    Just wondering what the rules here are about lying and false statements on political figures; I'm not gonna vote McCain, but there's a big difference between me saying I feel he's too likely to be beholden to the far-right and I disagree with him on Iraq, and posting that he's a homosexual or an IV drug user. Saying Obama is a muslim is the same sort of lie.
    his early years which are the most formaitve are what he ahd with a Muslium dad.
    some things never leave you. Have you visited tha ie on line or tape recordings,church he attends and they spew out all types of anti white boy americia
    you'll see it soon if he wins the nomination



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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    this has been a pretty common e-lie circulating; it's well-established Obama is not a muslim, and while there's plenty of reasons to philosophically disagree and dislike him, the muslim card is a plain lie.

    Just wondering what the rules here are about lying and false statements on political figures; I'm not gonna vote McCain, but there's a big difference between me saying I feel he's too likely to be beholden to the far-right and I disagree with him on Iraq, and posting that he's a homosexual or an IV drug user. Saying Obama is a muslim is the same sort of lie.
    Do you watch the news much? Do you believe 100% of everything the left-wing liberal hippy anti-american media tells you?

    The opinions expressed here are no more false or twisted than anything you watch on the evening news.
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    ACTUALLY.........after his mother and father DIVORCED, HIS MOTHER ENCOURAGED HIS MUSLIM SCHOOLING...........


    YOU IDIOTS THINK ITS BAD NOW......just wait till we elect him or Hillary to the head office........

    after the last few days here in NY, with ELLIOT "MR Clean" Spitzer........

    THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE DEM'S AND REP's GREED is one wants MONEY THE OTHER WANTS HONEY......

    there ALL CROOKED AND THEY ARE ALL EVIL.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    ACTUALLY.........after his mother and father DIVORCED, HIS MOTHER ENCOURAGED HIS MUSLIM SCHOOLING...........


    YOU IDIOTS THINK ITS BAD NOW......just wait till we elect him or Hillary to the head office........

    after the last few days here in NY, with ELLIOT "MR Clean" Spitzer........

    THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE DEM'S AND REP's GREED is one wants MONEY THE OTHER WANTS HONEY......

    there ALL CROOKED AND THEY ARE ALL EVIL.......
    Bwahaha . Its a good thing I didn't take a drink before I read that. It would be all over the monitor right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Bwahaha . Its a good thing I didn't take a drink before I read that. It would be all over the monitor right now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Smokes View Post
    his early years which are the most formaitve are what he ahd with a Muslium dad.
    some things never leave you. Have you visited tha ie on line or tape recordings,church he attends and they spew out all types of anti white boy americia
    you'll see it soon if he wins the nomination


    so anyone who is abused as a child is destined to be abusive, and I'm actually still Catholic without knowing it, because I was as a child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    so anyone who is abused as a child is destined to be abusive, and I'm actually still Catholic without knowing it, because I was as a child?
    well I was raised METHODIST, and dont get to church much, BUT I am still a Methodist........

    your not gonna make a point here........
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    well I was raised METHODIST, and dont get to church much, BUT I am still a Methodist........

    your not gonna make a point here........
    thought it was pretty obvious--I was raised Catholic and left that church; Obama did the same. So apparently by inference smokes must think I"m a Catholic mole......
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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    thought it was pretty obvious--I was raised Catholic and left that church; Obama did the same. So apparently by inference smokes must think I"m a Catholic mole......
    the church that he attends EVERY SUNDAY IS A GREAT PLACE......you should check it out and get back to me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    the church that he attends EVERY SUNDAY IS A GREAT PLACE......you should check it out and get back to me.....
    I agree with your sarcasm there, and I'm no fan of the Congressional Black Caucus. But the part about him being a muslim is a very overused lie. As I said before, there are planty of legit reasons to dislike him, including his "real" church, i just take exception to folks posting lies to further their agenda, on either side--I'd be just as upset if someone posted that McCain had an illegitimate black child, as they did during the SC primaries 8 years ago.....a lie is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    I agree with your sarcasm there, and I'm no fan of the Congressional Black Caucus. But the part about him being a muslim is a very overused lie. As I said before, there are planty of legit reasons to dislike him, including his "real" church, i just take exception to folks posting lies to further their agenda, on either side--I'd be just as upset if someone posted that McCain had an illegitimate black child, as they did during the SC primaries 8 years ago.....a lie is a lie.
    the only thing I have an issue with is IF IT IS TRUE, and unless we are him or close to him, how do we know, and WHO are we suppose to believe???

    like I said before, THEY ARE ALL CROOKED AND EVIL......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    the only thing I have an issue with is IF IT IS TRUE, and unless we are him or close to him, how do we know, and WHO are we suppose to believe???

    like I said before, THEY ARE ALL CROOKED AND EVIL......
    d@#n, i'm gonna end up agreeing with you yet, at least on the last part. But the first part is a lie or at best wild conjecture. You could make the same argument on the McCain thing, as neither of us know for sure who he slept with, but at some point if all evidence goes in another direction and it's repeatedly denied, minus some concrete proof to back the assertion it becomes a lie of sorts
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    Quote Originally Posted by markalbob View Post
    d@#n, i'm gonna end up agreeing with you yet, at least on the last part. But the first part is a lie or at best wild conjecture. You could make the same argument on the McCain thing, as neither of us know for sure who he slept with, but at some point if all evidence goes in another direction and it's repeatedly denied, minus some concrete proof to back the assertion it becomes a lie of sorts
    true......and unless Mccains black child came at the cost of $5500 and hour, we may never know that truth either
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    true......and unless Mccains black child came at the cost of $5500 and hour, we may never know that truth either
    I don't follow the $5500 part, but I think we're in at least partial agreement
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