You are Unregistered, please register to be able to read posts in all forums and participate in the discussion.
Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: target panic?

  1. #1
    Senior Member I missed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Traverse city, Michigan
    Posts
    564

    Default target panic?

    how do i fix it?
    Parker Hornet 28" 70#
    easton epic 400gr. RAGE 2 blade

  2. #2
    Slippy for President Hook Em's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    At Home in Texas
    Posts
    1,938

    Default

    shoot left handed....

    You will get lots of answers/ideas on this one...here is what I do:

    1. shoot a back tension release
    2. blank bale for an extended period
    3. aiming drills where you draw/aim/let down
    4. after the blank bailing, shoot from 5 yds and gradually move back.

    I have found all of them to work, but I do not have the patience enough to stick with them for as long as it takes....so the panic just keeps coming back. I freeze below and to the right of the x... I am getting better, but it still creeps up on me from time to time!
    Hook 'Em Horns

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    176

    Default reply

    What is target panic...I've heard of buck fever, but who would get nervous at paper?

  4. #4
    Slippy for President Hook Em's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    At Home in Texas
    Posts
    1,938

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenderfoot View Post
    What is target panic...I've heard of buck fever, but who would get nervous at paper?
    Hook 'Em Horns

  5. #5
    RIP Ronhop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Rock Island, IL
    Posts
    3,967

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by I missed View Post
    how do i fix it?
    Man, there are books written about the subject.

    I'll take the easy way out and suggest that you look into Hook's suggestions.

    Good luck.

    Ron
    Proud member of the F.B.S.A.

    Official turkey baster and member of the FBSA R-100 eating team....

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    176

    Default reply

    seriously, though...what is target panic? Like release punching and failure to hold relaxed at the firing moment?

  7. #7
    I do not follow! Paul S.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    N.W. Ohio
    Posts
    552

    Default

    1. You can do practice drills for months to try and get rid of it, or...

    2. You can buy a back tension release, learn to use it in a couple of weeks, and probably be TP free.

    I chose option 2, and never looked back. I went from not being able to hit sand if I fell off a camel , to shooting pretty darn good in a matter of weeks.
    Proud Member of the FBSA

    3D for CP - www.archeryata.com/3dcp.html

  8. #8
    Movin on up!!! bullfiddle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    11,308

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenderfoot View Post
    seriously, though...what is target panic? Like release punching and failure to hold relaxed at the firing moment?
    There are all different types of target panic.
    1.) punching your release (aka drive by shooting)
    2.) unable to hold on a target. (can't push the pin into the center of a spot)
    3.) unable to draw on a target (believe it or not I seen a guy like this)
    4.) knowing your gonna miss before you take the shot....
    5.) dropping your bow arm so you can watch the arrow.

    These are a few and I am sure there are more that I didn't list.
    Bass and Bucks Staff Shooter
    Ranger Custom Bowstrings Staff Shooter
    Pathfinder Arrow Wraps Staff Shooter
    FBSA President and Founder

  9. #9
    I love this stuff rodney482's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    660

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bullfiddle View Post
    There are all different types of target panic.
    1.) punching your release (aka drive by shooting)
    2.) unable to hold on a target. (can't push the pin into the center of a spot)
    3.) unable to draw on a target (believe it or not I seen a guy like this)
    4.) knowing your gonna miss before you take the shot....
    5.) dropping your bow arm so you can watch the arrow.

    These are a few and I am sure there are more that I didn't list.
    all of which are caused by the fear of missing.

    get away from light triggers

    Draw your bow close your eyes,,,open your eyes and use your body to move the pin to the target instead of your arm.

    Learn to relax and let the pin float in the area you want to hit.

    blind bale shooting works

    make sure your bow fits you

    make sure you are not drawing too much weight

    if all else fails, buy a Carter Evolution plus and learn to aim.

  10. #10
    Bisquit....... BowhuntnHoosier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Hoosierville
    Posts
    13,882

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hook Em View Post
    shoot left handed....

    You will get lots of answers/ideas on this one...here is what I do:

    1. shoot a back tension release
    2. blank bale for an extended period
    3. aiming drills where you draw/aim/let down
    4. after the blank bailing, shoot from 5 yds and gradually move back.

    I have found all of them to work, but I do not have the patience enough to stick with them for as long as it takes....so the panic just keeps coming back. I freeze below and to the right of the x... I am getting better, but it still creeps up on me from time to time!
    I am the same way....mine comes and goes. But when shooting at 3D or live animals all is fine so I guess I'll just keep punchin at the paper.


    "HONDA"

  11. #11
    Slippy for President Hook Em's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    At Home in Texas
    Posts
    1,938

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BowhuntnHoosier View Post
    I am the same way....mine comes and goes. But when shooting at 3D or live animals all is fine so I guess I'll just keep punchin at the paper.
    bingo...no problems shooting 3d and hunting

    The back tension release didn't cure squat for me...and I don't care for the evolution, but I am going to try it again this winter. I am still a fan of my longhorn though (shot it this past weekend for the first time at a 3d shoot and shot even )!
    Hook 'Em Horns

  12. #12
    I pray for you! BUNNYMAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    the Hutch
    Posts
    29,897

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenderfoot View Post
    seriously, though...what is target panic? Like release punching and failure to hold relaxed at the firing moment?
    is that Cordwood I smell???
    I cut things up and split them down!

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    870

    Default

    A flaw in your form or shot sequence in play with the fear of missing = Target Panic

    Hooks had some great ideas to help counter act this.

    Take the game out of your head and have fun, go out there with the confidence and desire to tare it up and if you throw an arrow once in a while so be it, itís shot donít worry about that arrow or the next just focus on shot that you are doing at the moment,
    A lot of people are very hard on their selves and tend to take the fun out of the game even if you have a bad day there are hundreds of archers in this country that wish they could have shot those scores.
    The only one that is your competitor is the air between your ears!



  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    176

    Default reply

    I used to have all those listed problems(still do occasionaly). I stopped shooting at 30 and built my confidence back up at 10 and just focused on shooting..not aiming, but shooting for about 3 straight weeks. Heck, today I shot a golfball off a stick at 30(with the fletchings). I'd say confidence is key.

  15. #15

    Default

    When i stop concentrating on where I want the arrow to go and start thinking about releasing it is when I have the most trouble. As soon as my mind drifts from the spot I want to hit its over, usually I have to let down. Just my experiences.
    Rhino
    Michigan
    2007 X-Force 6
    28"/53 lbs
    X-Weave Pro 100's

  16. #16
    Senior Member Southernfryedyankee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    SC
    Posts
    955

    Default

    I would like to chime in here. I still have target panic to a point. If I shoot at my block 4x4 I am only ok at shooting the dots but if I am shooting at the vitals where there is no defined area just a mental picture of where I want my arrow to go, I shoot much better. What I recommend is LEARN YOUR TRIGGER. I was having the same problem with my Glock. I would fire off shots that were erratic and poorly placed. I then started learning my trigger. It worked like this, what is the most amount of pressure that I can squeeze my trigger before the actual fire. I practiced this over and over until I knew exactly how much pressure was needed right b4 the fire. I place my shot squeeeeeeeze the trigger gently to the cutting edge then my mind knows the next fraction of pressure that I give will release the firing pin. I applied the same mentality to my caliper release and it has made a world of difference.
    Last edited by Southernfryedyankee; 08-26-2008 at 12:33 PM.
    Her hair glistened in the rain like a nose hair after a sneeze.

    http://www.godscountryoutdoors.net
    http://http://www.meanvarchery.com/home.html

  17. #17
    Senior Member I missed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Traverse city, Michigan
    Posts
    564

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southernfryedyankee View Post
    I would like to chime in here. I still have target panic to a point. If I shoot at my block 4x4 I am only ok at shooting the dots but if I am shooting at the vitals where there is no defined area just a mental picture of where I want my arrow to go, I shoot much better. What I recommend is LEARN YOUR TRIGGER. I was having the same problem with my Glock. I would fire off shots that were erratic and poorly placed. I then started learning my trigger. It worked like this, what is the most amount of pressure that I can squeeze my trigger before the actual fire. I practiced this over and over until I knew exactly how much pressure was needed right b4 the fire. I place my shot squeeeeeeeze the trigger gently to the cutting edge then my mind knows the next fraction of pressure that I give will release the firing pin. I applied the same mentality to my caliper release and it has made a work of difference.
    with my block 4x4 i found the same thing, ill try the trigger thing thanks
    Parker Hornet 28" 70#
    easton epic 400gr. RAGE 2 blade

  18. #18
    Slippy for President Hook Em's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    At Home in Texas
    Posts
    1,938

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by I missed View Post
    with my block 4x4 i found the same thing, ill try the trigger thing thanks
    The best way to get rid of the panic is to not let your brain know when the shot is going to go off...that is the whole point with back tension. If your brain is anticipating the shot, it won't be good...maybe good for a while, but not for long term success. The release should be a SURPRISE! Not a thing wrong with punching if you aren't a target shooter looking to be better or get over a hump that you can't get past...I punch when I hunt with no problems. I TRY to always use back tension when shooting targets though...not that I am worth the crap at it!!
    Hook 'Em Horns

  19. #19
    Senior Member Southernfryedyankee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    SC
    Posts
    955

    Default

    I find a punch to be ranked up there with a flinch. My personal opinion (Disclaimer at bottom) is that you need to train your brain to know and undertstand that the release IS part of the full shot execution and if you must train your WHOLE body for proper form, breathing, sight placing then shotexecution you should not allow your brain to cut corners at the most vital stage as it can result in a poor wounding shot and not a kill shot.

    Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here today are that of the sole individual and do not in any way reflect the opinions of others



    Quote Originally Posted by Hook Em View Post
    The best way to get rid of the panic is to not let your brain know when the shot is going to go off...that is the whole point with back tension. If your brain is anticipating the shot, it won't be good...maybe good for a while, but not for long term success. The release should be a SURPRISE! Not a thing wrong with punching if you aren't a target shooter looking to be better or get over a hump that you can't get past...I punch when I hunt with no problems. I TRY to always use back tension when shooting targets though...not that I am worth the crap at it!!
    Her hair glistened in the rain like a nose hair after a sneeze.

    http://www.godscountryoutdoors.net
    http://http://www.meanvarchery.com/home.html

Similar Threads

  1. Target panic
    By TEN RING in forum General Archery Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 07-22-2008, 10:22 PM
  2. need a target
    By cowboy50 in forum General Archery Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-11-2008, 01:54 PM
  3. 3D Target panic
    By timberghost in forum General Archery Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 09-30-2007, 08:40 PM
  4. Help with Target Panic
    By STRO in forum General Archery Forum
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 02-11-2007, 07:00 PM
  5. Target Panic
    By heavy dart in forum General Archery Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-29-2005, 01:02 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •