10-14-2008, 04:24 PM #1
Which Blazer substitute, tired of fighting the new vane
I have read all the post about the new grooved blazer and the trouble some are having. We have been down this road already. I can tell you we fletch a couple thousand dozens per year and never had this problem with the old blazers.
I know I've read all the posts about jigs not being adjusted properly. I know all this already. I don't think I should have to change my process just because they changed their product. I would rather choose a product that is easier to work with.
So now, I need a replacement vane that doesn't have the lifting/pulling whatever you want to call it.
I would like something the same size, similar weight and shape.
Some have recommended the duravane predator but doesn't vanetec have a similar vane?
Thanks for any vane recommendations
10-14-2008, 04:38 PM #2
Vantec does make a 2" high profile vane but I have not fletched any. I have however fletched a few arrows with the duravanes and liked em. I am swearing off the Blazers I am tired of losing vanes. I am pretty sure that quickspin makes a high profile vane as well now. I really like the quickspins but there pricey. Call the companies and have em send you samples and give us a report on the tests. I would be curious to see how they stand up... What glue are you using by the way? I been using the pine ridge fast set and have had good luck with that....Bass and Bucks Staff Shooter
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10-14-2008, 04:40 PM #3
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I have had the same problem with the older Blazers, some stick, some don't. I haven't tried the new ones and probably wont. I like the Predators for field points but didn't get as good of flight with broadheads as I did with the Blazers. I prefer the 3" Duravanes for my broadheads. They have always shot great with fixed blades.
10-14-2008, 04:46 PM #4
I tried predators too this summer just to see how they stacked up to my blazers. With fixed Bh's there was no contest...Blazers shot ten times better out of my bow. Especially in windier conditions. They weren't any quieter and they weren't lighter than blazers. I've never had adhesion issues as a result of my fletching process either. I have more confidence in blazers than anything else right now.Extreme Strings Staff......www.extremebowstrings.com
10-14-2008, 05:02 PM #5
You could also take a look at Easton's Tite Flight and Diamond vanes, they seem to be very similar.Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
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10-14-2008, 05:43 PM #6
I've tested the VaneTec and they work well, in fact I plan on using them for my 3-d arrows this spring... No problem with the fletching either...Mike "Javi" Cooper
10-14-2008, 05:57 PM #7
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Give the AAE Max Hunters a try. They stick much better than blazers and are just as tough.
I just got done fletching a dozen arrows with them in a little over 1 1/2 hrs using Flex Bond fletching cement and not one of the super glues.
I use a BPE fletcher to put on one vane at a time.
10-14-2008, 06:12 PM #8
I shoot the Predators, and they are great out of my bow. I even fletched some up myself(I don't do arrows ), and they fly great.Proud Member of the FBSA
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10-14-2008, 08:54 PM #9
the owner of a bow shop, is asking us???
you must be in a real bind.......
I use Quikspins and AAE 4 inch so, I cant hep you......I cut things up and split them down!
10-14-2008, 09:22 PM #10
vanes, the mini blazers work ok, have not had issues, Heard vaneteks were goodHBH Admin.
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10-14-2008, 09:45 PM #11
10-14-2008, 10:14 PM #12
never had a problem with the old blazers. had enough that i haven't
bought any of the new style yet.
10-14-2008, 10:24 PM #13
10-14-2008, 10:30 PM #14
10-15-2008, 02:14 AM #15
I have shot Both the 2" Blazers and the Vanetec version (there called HP Vanes). They both shoot the same. But the Blazer is tougher material. As far as glueing them I use a surface insensative super glue that nap use to sell and I have never had a Blazer come off. I use Blazer X2 vanes for target and mechanical broadheads and they fly like a dream and again glue just fine. Though I did notice that the HP vane did not glue as well if you clean them with any type of alcohol ( isopropyl or denatured). They actually stick better without cleaning when using super glues. As far as Quickspins, I am not a fan anymore. There accurate upto 25 - 30 yards but then they over spin the arrow and cause groups to open up at distances beyond 30. That is why NAP introduced the Twister van. It increases spin but not as much as the QS to try to prevent the helicoptering effect they have at longer distances. The twister vane is less expensive and has the same "blazer" like profile. I have even experimented with the Blazer X2 with fixed blades. Tried them with Crimson Talon and Slick tricks 100gr. and they steer them great windage wise but noticed they shoot a smidge high, wich is not caused by the vane. Hope this Helps.Mathews Prestige, Carbon Express CXL SS arrows, Carter Target 3
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10-15-2008, 09:23 AM #16
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ive done bunches of both blazers and havent had a problem with either one . i do do a lot of shaft cleaning with 91% alc. the hardest to clean are the goldtips . usually can do carbon express in two wipes . goldtips take 4 to 5 seperate wipes with a clean paper towel . i also clean the vanes . takes a little more time to do but my customers want the blazers . but havent had any problems loose one here and there but not enough to complain about .
10-15-2008, 11:26 AM #17
Take a look at AAE, they have one that is a shield cut that is on par with the blazer. Also another one to take a look at is the Gateway Rayzr, you can go to their web site and check both of them out.Bob
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10-16-2008, 01:52 AM #18
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i have shot my tightest groups yet with the nap twister vanes.i still like blazers i just like the twister's a hair better.Whitearrow->>>------------------->
10-16-2008, 08:03 PM #19
I have not had any problem with the blazers. So I am sorry but can't help ya out Chris.
10-17-2008, 09:29 AM #20
When did the Blazer go to groves I thought the groved were a NAP product?Mathews Ovation 60 lbs 29 Dl- Ranger custom Strings
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