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    Quote Originally Posted by JDX-- View Post
    That’s why I’m thinking of shoot’in the Monster xcellerate- I mean XLR8 at 375 +/-



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    Well, with that in mind, just think what you could get our of the Monster eater (Omen) then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpford53 View Post
    Wow JC it sound little something got under your skin. You call the bow "fastest piece of crap ", it makes it sound as though your just one of those bashers. Yes it load up just like the Bowtec, Elites, and others, just a little bit more, phyiscs come into play when getting the most out of a cam, you need to ramp up quick, keep it there as long as possible, then drop into the valley. Yes the bow is not for everybody, but it is a great bow, and many will buy it.
    Nope, not a basher, just don't like it when people give rediculous reviews on bows because of the name on the limb and nothing else. PSE threw this together just to make a claim. Just to post a number. I have no problem with any other PSE bow, but this one deserves no press or accolades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmorgan31 View Post
    Nope, not a basher, just don't like it when people give rediculous reviews on bows because of the name on the limb and nothing else. PSE threw this together just to make a claim. Just to post a number. I have no problem with any other PSE bow, but this one deserves no press or accolades.
    Thats just Pete Justin but the bow will perform. I do see ur point and it was a slap at Matt its a marketing war right now between the 2 is all. I personally feel if mathews wants press attend the largest archery festival of the year dont make excuses and mathew attire shouldnt be allowed either. jmo
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    Come on, threw it togther. Really out fishing aren't you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxSPOTTSxx View Post
    Thats just Pete Justin but the bow will perform. I do see ur point and it was a slap at Matt its a marketing war right now between the 2 is all. I personally feel if mathews wants press attend the largest archery festival of the year dont make excuses and mathew attire shouldnt be allowed either. jmo
    Like I said, the bow is fast and the after shot characteristics aren't that bad. It is still by far the worst draw cycle I've ever felt. I have no idea how the Monster draw cycle is. I've never seen one. Anyone who's been around here a day or two knows I'm far from a Mathews fan....but I bet the Monster draws a whole heck of a lot better than the Omen. I bet a lot of bow companies could hit 366fps if the threw shootability out the door.....

    I never compared this bow to Mathews by the way.... It won't be long until they are back at the show.....out of necessity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpford53 View Post
    Come on, threw it togther. Really out fishing aren't you.
    Nope. This bow was built in response to the Mathews monster. How long ago was that realeased? It was so new that they only had 30" cams at the biggest trade show of the year. It was hurried and thrown together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmorgan31 View Post
    Like I said, the bow is fast and the after shot characteristics aren't that bad. It is still by far the worst draw cycle I've ever felt. I have no idea how the Monster draw cycle is. I've never seen one. Anyone who's been around here a day or two knows I'm far from a Mathews fan....but I bet the Monster draws a whole heck of a lot better than the Omen. I bet a lot of bow companies could hit 366fps if the threw shootability out the door.....

    I never compared this bow to Mathews by the way.... It won't be long until they are back at the show.....out of necessity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpford53 View Post
    Wow JC it sound little something got under your skin. You call the bow "fastest piece of crap ", it makes it sound as though your just one of those bashers. Yes it load up just like the Bowtec, Elites, and others, just a little bit more, phyiscs come into play when getting the most out of a cam, you need to ramp up quick, keep it there as long as possible, then drop into the valley. Yes the bow is not for everybody, but it is a great bow, and many will buy it.
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    Has a right to his opinion. I fell its a little harsh, but I haven't shot the bow. Who knows I may agree with him on the draw cycle after I shot it. I doubt it will be unshootable. Thats what everybody said about the Original X-force. It may not be to everybodies taste, but I'm sure it will shoot.

    As for the bow reviews.

    I wish you could stop the BS reviews, but that will never happen. To many fanboys.

    I prefer realistic reveiws that are in great detail. Then let people decide. Unfortunately there is way to much hype in the bow business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmorgan31 View Post
    Nope. This bow was built in response to the Mathews monster. How long ago was that realeased? It was so new that they only had 30" cams at the biggest trade show of the year. It was hurried and thrown together.
    Haw can anyone argue w/ this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looney Bin View Post
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    Has a right to his opinion. I fell its a little harsh, but I haven't shot the bow. Who knows I may agree with him on the draw cycle after I shot it. I doubt it will be unshootable. Thats what everybody said about the Original X-force. It may not be to everybodies taste, but I'm sure it will shoot.

    As for the bow reviews.

    I wish you could stop the BS reviews, but that will never happen. To many fanboys.

    I prefer realistic reveiws that are in great detail. Then let people decide. Unfortunately there is way to much hype in the bow business.
    Yep...it is just an opinion. I usually keep them to myself as they are just that. Only reason I even posted was because of just how shocked I was with this particular product. I'm a fairly good sized fella and I regularly draw back 70lb plus bows in my shop. Some are old bows with crazy draw cycles. I honestly thought I had hit the back wall a good inch before I dropped into the valley. This was not a 70lb bow either. Maybe it is for some people, if so...happy shooting. I have no other motive to give a bad review other than I don't want the unsuspecting person to be told something based anything other a truthful review based on experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed View Post
    Haw can anyone argue w/ this point?
    I think the main proof that it was thrown together is that they wont ship until July....

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    Unfortunately lots of people by bows based on fanboy reviews. Sometimes the reviews sound like they are tring to convince themselves that they bought the right product.

    People often misinterperet help. Or someone tring to be helpful. Then again it depends on how you word it. It happens to me sometimes when I'm tring to help somebody get the facts straight.

    I spend more time at work explaining misinformation from other business's. Then I do about how product really work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmorgan31 View Post
    Nope. This bow was built in response to the Mathews monster. How long ago was that realeased? It was so new that they only had 30" cams at the biggest trade show of the year. It was hurried and thrown together.
    To clear 1 thing up its the Mcphearson Monster this is the second time Matt bought back the Mcphearson name I woulda PSE had 2 yrs of R&D under their belt with the cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxSPOTTSxx View Post
    To clear 1 thing up its the Mcphearson Monster this is the second time Matt bought back the Mcphearson name I woulda PSE had 2 yrs of R&D under their belt with the cam.
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    According to the interview with matt so its a ploy? Hmmm There goes all those yrs of marketing falsely
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxSPOTTSxx View Post
    I personally feel if mathews wants press attend the largest archery festival of the year dont make excuses and mathew attire shouldnt be allowed either. jmo
    I've never understood this logic. The ATA show is about one thing and one thing only -- marketing. Every form of marketing has a cost. If a company decides the cost of attending outweighs the benefit received, why is it a bad thing not to attend? Mathews obviously chooses to spend their marketing dollars elsewhere, just open any trade magazine and look at the ads and the number of sponsored shooters.

    It's also kind of silly to say they should ban Mathews attire from the ATA. What about every other company that doesn't participate at that ATA, are you going to ban them as well? The fact you see that much Mathews attire at a trade show the company doesn't even participate in might just give you a clue that their marketing is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smichael View Post
    I've never understood this logic. The ATA show is about one thing and one thing only -- marketing. Every form of marketing has a cost. If a company decides the cost of attending outweighs the benefit received, why is it a bad thing not to attend? Mathews obviously chooses to spend their marketing dollars elsewhere, just open any trade magazine and look at the ads and the number of sponsored shooters.

    It's also kind of silly to say they should ban Mathews attire from the ATA. What about every other company that doesn't participate at that ATA, are you going to ban them as well? The fact you see that much Mathews attire at a trade show the company doesn't even participate in might just give you a clue that their marketing is working.
    Im not saying band people from wearing attire at the ata really could care less if mathews showed up there honestly. But all major bow lines were there excludeing them woulda been nice to shoot a reezen or monster on a business owners stand point. just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxSPOTTSxx View Post
    Im not saying band people from wearing attire at the ata really could care less if mathews showed up there honestly. But all major bow lines were there excludeing them woulda been nice to shoot a reezen or monster on a business owners stand point. just my 2 cents.
    I think Mathews has enough business and doesnt really care if they pick up any new shops. It would be really hard for me to invest in a bow lineup without being able to put my hands on them. I have met reps of all the major bow companies along with a couple of owners but have never seen so much as a sales rep from Mathews. I want to know what I will be selling before I recieve it and unless you visit another shop with that line of bows allready it is just not possible here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmorgan31 View Post
    I could care less why they brought it out. It is a beast to draw and that is enough. Making the fastest piece of crap is still making a piece of crap. Archery is more like 2nd grade recess year after year.
    I am really surprised to see you bashing JC.... You have always been open minded in the past ! PSE bows are not crap!! Any bow hitting the 250-260fps is goiong to be a harsh drawing SOB.... Remember that...
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