07-06-2009, 09:04 AM #21
I'm backwards.........I have a hard time shooting animals.
there is nothing to focus on when looking at 3d targets just a wall of black or brown. I start trying to aim and yanking the trigger when I think the pin is in the circle. When I have a solid spot to stare at I can accept the float and let the release happen without any thought.
I can shoot a bag target way better than foam.
not to mention I can't judge yardage.
07-06-2009, 10:06 AM #22
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I'd say it is target panic.
Big blue dot... easy to hit, just hold it right there... hold it STILL, you're moving... crap... HIT IT!
Try putting a dot on the 3-d and see if you dont have the same problem.
It's funny, I shoot a lens (6x) I shoot better without a clarifier than I do WITH. Without a clarifier the target is fuzzy... with I can see the rings... and then I try to over control the shot.
07-06-2009, 10:24 AM #23
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Man... aint that the truth.
That voice has to be blocked out. Fighting for quiet at full draw is critical.
I tend to compartmentalize pretty well. my wife struggles with it more than I do.
I envision two separate shooters. One gets to guess the yardage and dial it in. The other shoots the shot. I go through the yardage estimation process and dial the yardage... then I turn it off.
When I go to draw back it might as well have been my wife who set the yardage. I dont think about it. And at this point I honestly dont care if the arrow goes 2 feet over the target's back. Yardage estimation is done... time to shoot. If I dont shoot perfectly, it wont matter how accurate the estimation was.
They are two completely separate disciplines and you have to keep them that way.
If I guess the yardage and then execute the shot the feedback from the shot is applied to both disciplines, but only if the shot was executed correctly. It then reveals if I made an accurate estimation and also reveals the consistency of my shot process.
Even a miss is positive feedback. I completely whiffed a target yesterday at the R100. 2 Flamingos 1 arrow at each. the second was slightly behind the first... I dialed 37 yards after significant cross checking and was confidant in my estimation.
Executed a near perfect shot and stuck my arrow in a tree! right over it's back. First target i've whiffed in I dont know how long.
Knocked another arrow, did the math on the feedback from the first shot, realized how I got duped, redialed the yardage and 10 ringed the other.
My shot was perfect, but the estimation in yardage was off. The arrow just revealed the error.
I would rather take a clean miss like that, break an arrow, and humble my over active ego than to yank the release and 10 ring it.
07-06-2009, 11:36 AM #24
Most, not all, groups that have been shown on this thread could actually be explained as easily as the bag moving at each point of impact. A 3d target is rigid and does not move each time you hit the target, unlike the burlap cover of the bag targets that move in a stiff wind.Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
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07-06-2009, 12:02 PM #25
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07-06-2009, 11:01 PM #27
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I know what you mean. I shoot some bag targets good but animal targets shoot very well. The target that gets me all day long is the 18-1 target. I can't group on that thing to save my life.
07-06-2009, 11:40 PM #28
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I dont have to change my sight at all when shooting dots and then going to an animal But I was talking to Bobby Ketcher in Illinois and he has too change his sight setting. He says he has to sight in around 2 inches left on a dot so it will hit the animal where he wants to.
07-07-2009, 05:42 PM #29
Just saying the heck with over thinking it. Get on target and just be smooth and release.
Dont overthink it! Just making it harder than I should.Elite bows, Vortex Binos, Trophy Taker sights, Carter releases, Goldtip Arrows. CBE sights, Vapor Trail Strings, B Stinger stabilizers
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