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    Default Two bows and what I have found

    My shoulder feels much better at 55lb bow.

    But there no doubt my 61lb bow holds and shoots tighter groups. The extra holding weight just sits better.

    Might practice with the 55lber and shoot day take the 61lber.

    My shoulder wont take the constant practice with the 61lbs.

    My question Im still getting to shoot and practice aiming

    Im thinking this might be an option!
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    Souunds like you need a bow with a 75% letoff,and use a 55lbs holding weight,best of both worlds,..............
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    Is it the pull, or is it the hold that hurts? Maybe OMF is on to something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneMustFall View Post
    Souunds like you need a bow with a 75% letoff,and use a 55lbs holding weight,best of both worlds,..............
    I think it would be right the opposite. He needs more holding weight with less draw weight.

    I would suggest to try to make your holding weight come up some with the 55lb draw. Make your cables larger or get an oversized drawstop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jame View Post
    I think it would be right the opposite. He needs more holding weight with less draw weight.

    I would suggest to try to make your holding weight come up some with the 55lb draw. Make your cables larger or get an oversized drawstop.
    What i was trying to say is the 75% let off would simulate a higher darw weight but but still be easy on the shoulder at 55lbs, as theirs not much difference between 75%-80% letoff.
    He says he more accurate with a 61lbs i thought the above setup would would feel the same as 61lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneMustFall View Post
    What i was trying to say is the 75% let off would simulate a higher darw weight but but still be easy on the shoulder at 55lbs, as theirs not much difference between 75%-80% letoff.
    He says he more accurate with a 61lbs i thought the above setup would would feel the same as 61lbs.
    I gotcha. I think he shoots 65% let off.

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    Default Im going to check the let off

    Shoulder was a little sore this morning from shooting the 61 lb bow yesturday.

    Think Im going to try it this weekend both days. See how it feels.

    Yes the 61 pounds pulling weight makes the shoulder sore.

    Been shooting the 55lbs for two weeks and shoulder feeling better. This should be an easy no brainer. I need to be shooting the 55lb bow for my shoulder.

    This is basicly the last month of 3d.

    I may have to make this call at the end of the month. Sale the 60/70lb bow and that solves this promblem.
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    Try pulling with your back muscles during the draw. Takes some of the load off your shoulders.

    Works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyBee View Post
    Try pulling with your back muscles during the draw. Takes some of the load off your shoulders.

    Works for me.
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    Why dont you try twisting your cables a few times then shorten the draw stop. This will decrease the let off and keep the draw length the same. While it will also allow you to set the bow at 55 lbs and hold more weight without having to draw more weight.

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    For some one who likes shooting a bow as much as you DB i can`t believe you would jeopardize your future in archery.....For a few tighter groups.

    I guess if you screw up your shoulder.....you can take up the crossbow LOL

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    Default 100% right

    The truth is I should stop shooting tournament archery.

    Arthitus is there and it aint going away soon.

    I am not practicing alot now and that is my plan to limit my practice.
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    Don't stop shooting 3d tournaments(maybe indoor 5 spot), just limit your practice and make those practices count. You are always saying that your shooting is good, but your yardage judging is not as good. Maybe a way to stay in the game is to practice more yardage judging and a little less actual shooting.
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    Dos`nt an elite have pretty aggressive cams. I sure don`t think you should stop shooting tournaments. Just find a bow that will let you shoot comfortably. I know you use to shoot mathews maybe go back . Or a APA viper...

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    Hey guys, I just joined here today and noticeds this thread. There is one thing that I noticed, having arthritis and loving archery. I found that the more keyboard typing I do, the more my shoulders, wrists and fingers 'act up'. I found that cutting back on the time I spend on the computer and not pushing myself draw weight wise, the better my joints feel. Honestly, liliting my time on the internet really helps my shoulders and I shoot better. Just my $.02 and trying to help. Later, Rob.

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    Hey DB I know you love your lizard tongue, there is no better rest, but you are really straining to slow draw to keep on that rest, maybe try a bow doodle or drop away you can jerk on back without the arrow falling off? I feel for you buddy my shoulder did get better! You know I wish you all the best even when you outshoot me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Boone View Post
    My shoulder feels much better at 55lb bow.

    But there no doubt my 61lb bow holds and shoots tighter groups. The extra holding weight just sits better.

    Might practice with the 55lber and shoot day take the 61lber.

    My shoulder wont take the constant practice with the 61lbs.

    My question Im still getting to shoot and practice aiming

    Im thinking this might be an option!
    DB,
    I'm shooting an Elite XLR at only 50 lbs. and found that I too had trouble shooting tighter groups with the low holding weight. I have since switched from a thumb release to a hinge release (Scott Apex). This has helped a great deal in allowing me to hold the bow steadier and also has greatly helped me obtain a more surprise release. I've never been able to shoot a hinge very well before with other bows but the Elite super hard wall and very comfortable letoff makes it much easier for me - especially if I set the release very slow.
    Just a suggestion for what it's worth. Would hate to see such a great guy who enjoys archery so much quit shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbird1 View Post
    DB,
    I'm shooting an Elite XLR at only 50 lbs. and found that I too had trouble shooting tighter groups with the low holding weight. I have since switched from a thumb release to a hinge release (Scott Apex). This has helped a great deal in allowing me to hold the bow steadier and also has greatly helped me obtain a more surprise release. I've never been able to shoot a hinge very well before with other bows but the Elite super hard wall and very comfortable letoff makes it much easier for me - especially if I set the release very slow.
    Just a suggestion for what it's worth. Would hate to see such a great guy who enjoys archery so much quit shooting.
    Interesting idea. Im going to give the 55pounds another shot this fall indoor. Im not stopping shooting anytime soon I hope. Thanks for that tip.
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    DB
    I have gone through it my self

    less holding weight more floating around my spot
    try adding weight to the riser i know it sounds like we are going a different direction but the riser weight will fool you into holding stronger like more holding weight
    it wont take much a few oz her and there
    make sure it ballances out so it dont jump funny just to the spot
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