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    Default One bow for 3d and spots...?

    What would it be?
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    For me it would be the PSE Supra. I say this becuase of cost, speed, and shootability.
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    I shoot an Athens Exceed for both. Very smooth draw cycle and at 60# its shooting 311 FPS for 3D. I shot 298 and 34 X's last night and this was first outing since last fall shooting 3D. There was 4 of these bows at spots last night. It has 37" ATA with 7" brace.
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    I shoot an Athens Exceed for both. Very smooth draw cycle and at 60# its shooting 311 FPS for 3D. I shot 298 and 34 X's last night and this was first outing since last fall shooting 3D. There was 4 of these bows at spots last night. It has 31" ATA with 7" brace.
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    If I had to choose one bow does it all I would look at a Contender Elite with 2000x limbs. Easily get over 300fps with this bow and the right arrow but built to be very stable forgiving bow. The Alpha Elite might be a good choice too, but the one I owned had great speed but seem to be a very unforgiving bow. If your form wasn't spot on it showed on the score card.

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    G5 prime centroid smooth great wall great speed. will tune any arrow you want to shoot. go give one a try dont think you will be disapointed.

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    I am leaning toward the Bowtech Specialist and the Dominator.
    I love the idea of the Centroid, I just wish it was longer...falls on the wrong side of 35" for my taste. String angle is an issue for me as far as comfort.

    I love the idea of the Specialist...I shot one, feels great, love the cam system, just would be not happy if the limbs start flaking!

    The Dominator has great specs, I own a Supra, so should be an easy transition.

    Right now that is my debate. I shot the VE+ with spirals and the GTX cam and prefered the GTX cam. The bow was very nice, but I prefered the feel of the Specialist. I shot the AE and CE, and prefer the VE+.

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    Pretty much every bow made now a days...within reason...will do it all. Unless your a really short draw guy...or hunt with a short bow with a longer draw...33" or less with a 28"+ draw. Any bow you shoot well will pull double duty.

    They are all fast enough for 3D for the most part...unless they are one of those bows that are "over rated" speed wise even my sub 28" draw can get 280+ from every bow I would shoot target with. Everyone of them also if you are capable of doing your part will also shoot 60X indoors or 300 Vegas round.

    I shoot a 35" bow that isn't a speed burner for EVERYTHING....hunting, field, indoors, 3D. I have two of them and just swap out arrows and stabs for the most part. It shoots broadheads awesome...of all the 5 spot rounds I have shot in the past two years I have only shot 2 rounds that weren't a 300 and they were 299s and only two of the 20-30 rounds have been less then 50Xs and they were rounds that I was setting up the bow after changing strings. I have also shot great field scores with the bow.....

    Find a bow that FITS you and you will know it when you shoot it.....nobody else is going to be able to tell you what you should shoot. Figure out what you need and like in a bow and then find the bows that fit that mold and start narrowing them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Hornet View Post
    Pretty much every bow made now a days...within reason...will do it all. Unless your a really short draw guy...or hunt with a short bow with a longer draw...33" or less with a 28"+ draw. Any bow you shoot well will pull double duty.

    They are all fast enough for 3D for the most part...unless they are one of those bows that are "over rated" speed wise even my sub 28" draw can get 280+ from every bow I would shoot target with. Everyone of them also if you are capable of doing your part will also shoot 60X indoors or 300 Vegas round.

    I shoot a 35" bow that isn't a speed burner for EVERYTHING....hunting, field, indoors, 3D. I have two of them and just swap out arrows and stabs for the most part. It shoots broadheads awesome...of all the 5 spot rounds I have shot in the past two years I have only shot 2 rounds that weren't a 300 and they were 299s and only two of the 20-30 rounds have been less then 50Xs and they were rounds that I was setting up the bow after changing strings. I have also shot great field scores with the bow.....

    Find a bow that FITS you and you will know it when you shoot it.....nobody else is going to be able to tell you what you should shoot. Figure out what you need and like in a bow and then find the bows that fit that mold and start narrowing them down.
    I am close...I've tried quite a few...just asking to see if there are any I missed. Unfortunately it is not easy to try certain "target" oriented bows as dealers tend to not stock them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaz View Post
    What would it be?
    Like to hear some thoughts...maybe something out there I am not considering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alaz View Post
    I am close...I've tried quite a few...just asking to see if there are any I missed. Unfortunately it is not easy to try certain "target" oriented bows as dealers tend to not stock them.
    What are you looking for really? What is your draw length? What length bow do you like? Do you like certain manufactures? What type of cams do you like? Are you an ASA or IBO guy? Everyone wants a FAST bow for 3D I will take a setup shooting in the 280 fps range that knocks the bottom out of the dot over any setup shooting 320 fps for target every time.

    You really don't need to shoot them all IMO...well at least I don't. Reason I say that is because if you have shot a Hoyt....you know what the cams are like and you know what they feel like. So if you think you will like a VE over a CE then go for it even if you have only shot the CE. If you have shot a Supra....you have shot a Dominator Pro....yes it's a shoot thru and a little longer...but you know what PSEs are like. Its just a different model. If you have shot an Elite Pure....you know the Tour is just a little longer and slower. You don't really need to shoot them all from a company....know what you like or are looking for. A Hoyt isn't going to feel like a Mathews and a Mathews isn't going to feel like a PSE. All Hoyts fell the same they are just different versions.

    Your never really going to know what a bow will do for you just from testing with a few shots. Your really not going to know until you get it setup for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Hornet View Post
    What are you looking for really? What is your draw length? What length bow do you like? Do you like certain manufactures? What type of cams do you like? Are you an ASA or IBO guy? Everyone wants a FAST bow for 3D I will take a setup shooting in the 280 fps range that knocks the bottom out of the dot over any setup shooting 320 fps for target every time.

    You really don't need to shoot them all IMO...well at least I don't. Reason I say that is because if you have shot a Hoyt....you know what the cams are like and you know what they feel like. So if you think you will like a VE over a CE then go for it even if you have only shot the CE. If you have shot a Supra....you have shot a Dominator Pro....yes it's a shoot thru and a little longer...but you know what PSEs are like. Its just a different model. If you have shot an Elite Pure....you know the Tour is just a little longer and slower. You don't really need to shoot them all from a company....know what you like or are looking for. A Hoyt isn't going to feel like a Mathews and a Mathews isn't going to feel like a PSE. All Hoyts fell the same they are just different versions.

    Your never really going to know what a bow will do for you just from testing with a few shots. Your really not going to know until you get it setup for you.


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    Well one thing for sure i'm glad Mathews don't shoot like hoyts
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    Brown Hornetwhatmfgis the 35 inch bow you shoot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpford53 View Post
    For me it would be the PSE Supra. I say this becuase of cost, speed, and shootability.
    Same here. There are a lot of great bows out there. The Supra seems to work well for me.

    A great thing about the Supra is that my shoulders stopped hurting after about 3 days of shooting it. I didn't think that any bow would make me give up my beloved Hoyts, but this one did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Well one thing for sure i'm glad Mathews don't shoot like hoyts
    They do shoot like them....in the middle of the dot. They don't feel like them....big difference in feel and shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet old bill View Post
    Brown Hornetwhatmfgis the 35 inch bow you shoot ?
    Hoyt Katera XLs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Hornet View Post
    They do shoot like them....in the middle of the dot. They don't feel like them....big difference in feel and shooting
    Truth is they both shoot so sweet and there both great bows but if i started shooting a Hoyt i'd only be running with the crowd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Hornet View Post
    What are you looking for really? What is your draw length? What length bow do you like? Do you like certain manufactures? What type of cams do you like? Are you an ASA or IBO guy? Everyone wants a FAST bow for 3D I will take a setup shooting in the 280 fps range that knocks the bottom out of the dot over any setup shooting 320 fps for target every time.

    You really don't need to shoot them all IMO...well at least I don't. Reason I say that is because if you have shot a Hoyt....you know what the cams are like and you know what they feel like. So if you think you will like a VE over a CE then go for it even if you have only shot the CE. If you have shot a Supra....you have shot a Dominator Pro....yes it's a shoot thru and a little longer...but you know what PSEs are like. Its just a different model. If you have shot an Elite Pure....you know the Tour is just a little longer and slower. You don't really need to shoot them all from a company....know what you like or are looking for. A Hoyt isn't going to feel like a Mathews and a Mathews isn't going to feel like a PSE. All Hoyts fell the same they are just different versions.

    Your never really going to know what a bow will do for you just from testing with a few shots. Your really not going to know until you get it setup for you.
    I agree about not knowing how a bow works for you till you have it for some time.
    Just asking to see if I am not considering some options. I prefer 36" and longer ata's. My DL is 28.5" and string angle is very important too me (I am not into steep angles). I am 6' with fairly long arms, and shoot a hinge if that matters. I had to drive 3.5hrs to try VE, AE. Both were nice...I like the VE quite a bit better, but the spirals were not for me. I have shot a Supra and I own a Supra with L6 cams.
    My short list includes a Supra ME, Dominator and Specialist. The Specialist felt great, stiffer on the draw than the Supra, but not spiral stiff. The bow felt very nice overall, with a very crisp break at the release (similar to spirals in that regard). I know this is stupid, but the limb finish potential issues just annoys me.

    The one bow I still would like to try is the Prime Centroid. The obvious issue with that bow is the ATA. I owned a vendetta XL (35" ata) and that bow was more than fine with regard to string angle. But the cams are larger than the Centroid.

    There are some bows I would like to try and see in person (Martin Sceptor V, Maitland Zeus/ Session, outside interest in a Moxie), but probably wont happen.

    I personally prefer Hybrids and dual cam/ binaries (whatever I can call them without getting in trouble). Not interested in single cams. I love the Hoyt VE and Bowtech Specialist grips, and PSE is also a very good grip for me.

    Like I said, just asking to see if there is another bow out there I am not considering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Truth is they both shoot so sweet and there both great bows but if i started shooting a Hoyt i'd only be running with the crowd
    Either shoot what you shoot best or buy what you want to be like everyone or be different.....

    Either one of the last to scenarios puts you in the group that those that shoot well in the crowd don't pay attention to when it matters

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