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    HUTCH~N~SON ARCHERY LLC Hutch's Avatar
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    Default What do ya know about strings?

    Info on strings
    The most common thing is care.
    a. inspect and clean and wax the string.
    inspect and replace if any defects or broken strands.
    wax and burnish, burnish the wax into the string this is but taking a leather strap rubbing it up and down the string to create heat and melt it into the strands.

    b. types of string material.
    8125g is used for speed it has creep and stretch
    452x is general purpose no stretch and no creep
    Trophy is general and hunting no stretch and no creep
    (creep is when the fibers pull apart. stretch is when all the strands become equal in length.Thus a pre-stretched string has no peep rotation)

    c. Strings don't last forever
    general shooting replace every 2 to 3 years
    target shooters every 1 to 2 years

    d. Accessories
    speed nocks for the extra speed
    string silencers slows the string down

    e. Center serving should allow the nock to fit snugly, not tight. The arrow should fall of the string when hanging and the bow is tapped.

    Remember a well maintained string will help your bow preform excellent.

    More questions try out this link: http://www.bcyfibers.com/FAQs.php


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    When ordering a custom string! Put a little thought into your order.
    1. Speed or not (slower by more quiet)?
    If you order a string the material makes a difference. But the one thing people forget, how many strands you have in your string makes a difference.
    For instance: if I ordered a string made of BCY trophy Material. This material is able to be built with 20 - 24 strands. With less strands lets say 20, I will pick up some speed from the string. Reason less strands reduces friction and less friction the string can cut the air faster.
    *standard strands on any string are usually the maximum strands.

    2. So ask questions before you order. I would think of what purpose I am using the bow for (hunting, target, both) and decide on the string material and the strand count.

    3.Older bows, some are not designed for speed. This is because they are not as high tech. But you can get a few more feet per second out of them. If you change a few things. Like the string material and the strand count.
    * also the lengths of the servings were a lot longer than needed. Remeasure and shorten them, and let your string maker know the new measurements.




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    Center servings: here is where a lot of archer's miss the shot. Before I started building strings I thought the center serving had to be real tight. Almost to the point if you turned the arrow the string will move with it. Wrong! The arrow nock should fit on snugly, without force. Clip on clip off gently.
    *In most cases when you get a manufactured string the center serving is too tight. After a few shots say 1000. The center serving wears and a sweet spot forms so the arrow nock fits perfectly. Problem! it thins the center serving. Which in turn lets the center serving shift or premature breakage.

    Fixes: a tighter center serving, a smaller diameter center serving, a different arrow nock, or a light file with an emery board


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    So witch wax should i use on 452 ? ive got some with a silicone in it that a pro shop told me to use,it ................

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    Quote Originally Posted by duanelane View Post
    So witch wax should i use on 452 ? ive got some with a silicone in it that a pro shop told me to use,it ................
    That wax will be okay to use. I use a similar Xwax from BCY goes on like chap stick.

    Bowstring X-Wax
    with Weatherblock Technology
    Super silicone formula; perfect for 452X and all other bowstrings. Scent free, water repellant and abrasion resistant. Excellent string penetration and protection. Capped twist dispenser; applicator included.


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    Great post hutch i'm loving what I'm seeing here!!!!Tell me Alpha Elite 3D comp bow what would you recomend for a Aussie to use???He has been using Winners Choice but the last one was nothing but pure Crap!!!! Can't controll the peep rotation and it's only a few months old ??? Very Disapointed Mate!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    Center servings: here is where a lot of archer's miss the shot. Before I started building strings I thought the center serving had to be real tight. Almost to the point if you turned the arrow the string will move with it. Wrong! The arrow nock should fit on snugly, without force. Clip on clip off gently.
    *In most cases when you get a manufactured string the center serving is too tight. After a few shots say 1000. The center serving wears and a sweet spot forms so the arrow nock fits perfectly. Problem! it thins the center serving. Which in turn lets the center serving shift or premature breakage.

    Fixes: a tighter center serving, a smaller diameter center serving, a different arrow nock, or a light file with an emery board


    Hutch


    Does less center serving equal less chance of peep rotation?
    Especially when you start adding a twist or removing a twist or two?

    also in the past when I had to reserve the center or any part of the string I would end up with peep rotation, what causes this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator eye View Post
    Does less center serving equal less chance of peep rotation?
    Especially when you start adding a twist or removing a twist or two?

    also in the past when I had to reserve the center or any part of the string I would end up with peep rotation, what causes this?
    Bad Bloody String Makers!!!!!!!!!
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    Talking Here's what I think !

    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Bad Bloody String Makers!!!!!!!!!
    We need them string makers to post here !

    Please continue !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator eye View Post
    Does less center serving equal less chance of peep rotation?
    Especially when you start adding a twist or removing a twist or two?

    also in the past when I had to reserve the center or any part of the string I would end up with peep rotation, what causes this?
    If a string is stretched properly and all the servings are done with the twist there will be no peep rotation. Peep rotation is caused by serving going in the wrong direction, against the twist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    If a string is stretched properly and all the servings are done with the twist there will be no peep rotation. Peep rotation is caused by serving going in the wrong direction, against the twist.


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    As I was saying!!!!!!!!Bad Bloody String Makers as explained by a Bloody ripper of a string maker Hutch!!!Thanks Hutch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    If a string is stretched properly and all the servings are done with the twist there will be no peep rotation. Peep rotation is caused by serving going in the wrong direction, against the twist.


    Hutch
    Now thats some good advice!!

    Hutch, how much tension do you think is nessesary to reserve a string to avoid peep rotation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator eye View Post
    Does less center serving equal less chance of peep rotation?
    Especially when you start adding a twist or removing a twist or two?

    also in the past when I had to reserve the center or any part of the string I would end up with peep rotation, what causes this?
    Maybe, it depends on your technique. After a string has settled in & stabilized, any change will likely result in peep rotation. Often it's temporary and will re-stabilize after a few shots. When I tested short center serving, it tended to move on me a little if it was too short. And if it was served tight enough to keep it in place, it resulted in peep rotation.

    Hope this helps,
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    Great info and better timing! I am wanting to replace the strings on my bow.

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    All I know is that the guys at my club all work at America's Best Bowstrings... I had them the bow, tell them the color, and they deliver it back to my door. The guys at that establishment are really nice, good people. Don't know why I would buy one anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mn.moose View Post
    All I know is that the guys at my club all work at America's Best Bowstrings... I had them the bow, tell them the color, and they deliver it back to my door. The guys at that establishment are really nice, good people. Don't know why I would buy one anywhere else.
    Well I guess you haven't bought one of mine! Ha!!!!



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    My experience with 8190 has been similar to Brown... The resistance to wear and fuzzing has been excellent. However... Over last summer and autumn I did have a bit of cable creep. 2 twists in August and another 1/2 twist late last year. So I will be interested to hear how things go for you all over a warm season. I am somewhat over 3000 shots on this set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN_walker View Post
    My experience with 8190 has been similar to Brown... The resistance to wear and fuzzing has been excellent. However... Over last summer and autumn I did have a bit of cable creep. 2 twists in August and another 1/2 twist late last year. So I will be interested to hear how things go for you all over a warm season. I am somewhat over 3000 shots on this set.
    To solve that you would use Trophy for the cables and 8190 for the string.



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