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    Hi All,

    Is the combination of a multi-pin sight fitted on a recurve bow possible?
    Cause I fitted a hoyt Acculite 5 pin on my Hoyt Gamemaster2 but it seems
    at 20 meters that my sight needs to go way up to make to shot go to the
    centre of the target without having the possibility to do so.
    I use the upper pin and sight adjusted at max up and I still overshoot.
    If this combination is a no go, is there any other (multi-pin) sight you might recommend?
    Or is there another solution, besides aiming lower?
    Many thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamrock View Post
    Hi All,

    Is the combination of a multi-pin sight fitted on a recurve bow possible?
    Cause I fitted a hoyt Acculite 5 pin on my Hoyt Gamemaster2 but it seems
    at 20 meters that my sight needs to go way up to make to shot go to the
    centre of the target without having the possibility to do so.
    I use the upper pin and sight adjusted at max up and I still overshoot.
    If this combination is a no go, is there any other (multi-pin) sight you might recommend?
    Or is there another solution, besides aiming lower?
    Many thanks.
    Need more info?
    Are ya using a peep sight kisser button or what?
    My take down recurve can allow for a sight.(i dont use one)
    But any bow with a risor that is machined for a sight should except one fine!
    Are you shooting normal:2 fingers under 1 over the arrow,I shoot 3 under you have to allow for this!
    If you can post a pic of you holding the bow at full draw i could tell you what your doing wrong!
    It could be alot of things: rest nocking point,etc.
    I dont think its the sight!
    Post pic's
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbohunt View Post
    Need more info?
    Are ya using a peep sight kisser button or what?
    My take down recurve can allow for a sight.(i dont use one)
    But any bow with a risor that is machined for a sight should except one fine!
    Are you shooting normal:2 fingers under 1 over the arrow,I shoot 3 under you have to allow for this!
    If you can post a pic of you holding the bow at full draw i could tell you what your doing wrong!
    It could be alot of things: rest nocking point,etc.
    I dont think its the sight!
    Post pic's
    I'm with Kbo...
    Is your anchor point inconsistent or just plain not 'gotten used to' ?
    It does not sound like a sight issue.

    Ron

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    Actually thinking about some more, most multi pin sights have multiple adjustment options for elevation and windage. One option is usually a major adjustment like moving a sight 1/4" using holes tapped and drilled into the sight frame. The other is a micro adjust using a thumb screw or just loosening a hex nut and moving the sight a small amount.

    You may want to look at the basic way the sight is set up. It just may be way off from where it should be.

    Good Luck.

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    Guys!!
    Problem solved :-)
    I tried as Kbohunt said with 3 fingers under and now it seems to be ok.
    Why couldn't I think of that.......
    At least I can still anchor at the same place

    I shoot with a competition bow as well and with pretty good results.
    I use the same technique here, regarding draw hand, 1 finger above and 2 under. But I guess the gamemaster does not 'allow' to be shot like that.

    Do you guys know any good websites regarding hunting recurves and bowhunting itself?

    Many thanks ....... gonne practise now

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    hi guys dunno if this is valid but ill input my input any who....


    ive jsut started using a sight ( ) in my lessons as a thing i have to persevere with and its ok but i still dont liek it. they say when looking down the sight adn if it goes tot he right, move the sight to the right...set he sight to what the arrow does....


    line the bow string up with the bow or the sight its self so u know the bows striahgt... the way we pull back is 2 fingers under one on top. and i pull back under my chin and string to nose so i can look through the sight...

    dunno if that helps at all <shrugs>
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamrock View Post
    Guys!!
    Problem solved :-)
    I tried as Kbohunt said with 3 fingers under and now it seems to be ok.
    Why couldn't I think of that.......
    At least I can still anchor at the same place

    I shoot with a competition bow as well and with pretty good results.
    I use the same technique here, regarding draw hand, 1 finger above and 2 under. But I guess the gamemaster does not 'allow' to be shot like that.

    Do you guys know any good websites regarding hunting recurves and bowhunting itself?

    Many thanks ....... gonne practise now
    Any thing you want to look at triditional archery stuff: 3Rivers archery.com
    And bowhunting just type in Bowhunting and you will get all the sights you need just pick one!
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    ummm

    SIGHTS are something we use on our bows......

    SITES are something we visit on the WEB......

    I cut things up and split them down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOWMAN View Post
    ummm

    SIGHTS are something we use on our bows......

    SITES are something we visit on the WEB......

    Are ya filling in for Sniper as my personal spell check now?
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    did some more practicing today and quickly noticed I needed to put my fingers down even more to hit the gold at 15 mtr. At first I had them directly under the nock point with pretty good results but needed to go down (on the target) even more, even though sight was adjusted to fully up position.

    So now I'm kind of wondering how to do?
    Shall I look for a good position (fixed) for my hand and do other adjustments for the different distances with the sight or ...... ?
    This anyway seems most logical for me. I still want to use the sight so a fixed hand/finger position is necessary.
    Now, I made some kind of new nock point on the string to indicate my hand position which is about 2 cm below the arrow nock point.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamrock View Post
    did some more practicing today and quickly noticed I needed to put my fingers down even more to hit the gold at 15 mtr. At first I had them directly under the nock point with pretty good results but needed to go down (on the target) even more, even though sight was adjusted to fully up position.

    So now I'm kind of wondering how to do?
    Shall I look for a good position (fixed) for my hand and do other adjustments for the different distances with the sight or ...... ?
    This anyway seems most logical for me. I still want to use the sight so a fixed hand/finger position is necessary.
    Now, I made some kind of new nock point on the string to indicate my hand position which is about 2 cm below the arrow nock point.
    Thanks.
    so you're holding the string 2cm below the arrow??? I don't know what that will do to your nock travel...
    Where's your nock compared to your rest??? is it square??? for finger shooting you want it about 1/4"(6mm) above square


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    Yes, I'm holding the string about 2 cm below the arrow. The upper ring for the nock is at 8mm, so this should be fine.
    I guess this way of shooting is some hybrid between traditional and freestyle shooting.

    With this setup, it is the only way to get the arrow in the gold and being able to use the sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamrock View Post
    Yes, I'm holding the string about 2 cm below the arrow. The upper ring for the nock is at 8mm, so this should be fine.
    I guess this way of shooting is some hybrid between traditional and freestyle shooting.

    With this setup, it is the only way to get the arrow in the gold and being able to use the sight.
    Okay...
    Well as far as the original question...a fixed and consistant hand position is a must for form...and use the sight to adjust for elevation...


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    So where that hand exactly is is not that important then, so the way I do it should be ok then, even though not perfect.
    A shop I called confirmed that I had to find my own hand position to be able to shoot the gamemaster due to the short window when using a sight.

    After how many meters does a arrow from a 55# bow start to drop cause maybe
    a one pin sight could be sufficient?
    Haven't got that far back yet cause I'm still fiddling with the hand position.
    I can imagine 5 pins in a sight don't make it easier aiming, while you got the adrenaline rushing through your body during a hunt....

    Thanks!

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    I'm not sure on the drop...you may have to do some walkback tuning to figure that out...
    see where your hitting at 10m, then move back to 15m and see what happens????


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    Quote Originally Posted by shamrock View Post
    So where that hand exactly is is not that important then, so the way I do it should be ok then, even though not perfect.
    A shop I called confirmed that I had to find my own hand position to be able to shoot the gamemaster due to the short window when using a sight.

    After how many meters does a arrow from a 55# bow start to drop cause maybe
    a one pin sight could be sufficient?
    Haven't got that far back yet cause I'm still fiddling with the hand position.
    I can imagine 5 pins in a sight don't make it easier aiming, while you got the adrenaline rushing through your body during a hunt....

    Thanks!
    You need to try this!
    Get a kisser button and install it on the string, to rest in the corner of your mouth!
    I think your not using a peep sight on the string right?
    You dont need one if you dont have one but you need to have a solid anchor point,You can walk up and down the string shooting triditional but you need a solid anchor!
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    Aye fi your not using a sight have 3 fingers under the nock (not too far under jsut under) and have the middle fingle pulled yout he corner of your lips. uwanna look down the arrow but nto anchor into the bow string as you'll clip your nose/mouth (yes i have lol im a noob but meh this is what ive been taugt lol)
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