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    be level to the riser or the actual arrow rest? If I put my bubble level on my arrow rest the bubble matches my sight. I have always been told that the level on the sight should be level to the riser is this true since the actual riser itself doesnt hold the arrow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southernfryedyankee View Post
    be level to the riser or the actual arrow rest? If I put my bubble level on my arrow rest the bubble matches my sight. I have always been told that the level on the sight should be level to the riser is this true since the actual riser itself doesnt hold the arrow?
    Really you want it perpedicular to the string...if the sight isn't square to the string and cams your bow can still be canted even if the sight level says it isn't...and that affect POI


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    Quote Originally Posted by Southernfryedyankee View Post
    be level to the riser or the actual arrow rest? If I put my bubble level on my arrow rest the bubble matches my sight. I have always been told that the level on the sight should be level to the riser is this true since the actual riser itself doesnt hold the arrow?
    I have a level on my sight which when (on the bow correctly & level)
    Will tell me if im canting the bow or im stright up and down!
    never heard of leveling your rest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbohunt View Post
    I have a level on my sight which when (on the bow correctly & level)
    Will tell me if im canting the bow or im stright up and down!
    never heard of leveling your rest!
    I wasnt leveling my rest persay I was just curious to see if my rest was level to my riser and it would appear that its not. Me being the over analyzer that I am was thinking since the riser never physically touches the arrow, wouldnt the rest being level to the sight be more important?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southernfryedyankee View Post
    I wasnt leveling my rest persay I was just curious to see if my rest was level to my riser and it would appear that its not. Me being the over analyzer that I am was thinking since the riser never physically touches the arrow, wouldnt the rest being level to the sight be more important?
    Is the arm to your rest bent of something?
    Do you have adjustment to square it?
    When i set up a bow,I square the rest first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbohunt View Post
    Is the arm to your rest bent of something?
    Do you have adjustment to square it?
    When i set up a bow,I square the rest first!
    not that I know of, its an older rest and I just mess with stuff to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southernfryedyankee View Post
    be level to the riser or the actual arrow rest? If I put my bubble level on my arrow rest the bubble matches my sight. I have always been told that the level on the sight should be level to the riser is this true since the actual riser itself doesnt hold the arrow?
    actually put the bow in a vise. make sure the bow is level with string level. then level out your sight. You want it level to your bow. If not you'll be canting your bow trying to get it level.
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    from what I am seeing, it looks like my arrow rest is on an angle if I level my sight to my riser my rest is definitly on an angle and I dont know how to bend it down a little. I truly believe that is why i cant get everything str8 and in line at once. I also belive this is why my 30 yard shots are suffering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southernfryedyankee View Post
    from what I am seeing, it looks like my arrow rest is on an angle if I level my sight to my riser my rest is definitly on an angle and I dont know how to bend it down a little. I truly believe that is why i cant get everything str8 and in line at once. I also belive this is why my 30 yard shots are suffering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN View Post
    its not a drop away?
    no its a micro adjustable prong. I really like it. but only NOW am I seeing that there is a discrepency in the level of my rest.
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    OK I just re-adjusted my sight to be level with my riser. the rest is definitly skightly bent upwards.
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    Boy you are opening a can of worms here. First is your 3RD axes set or right. Then you square it with the bow. If the 3rd axes is off and you shoot a long shot the level can lie to you.
    Find you a set of bow levels. One goes on your string and one goes on you arrow. It sets the rest level. Then check your sight for 3rd axes level.
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    I would adjust the arrow rest for a good bullet hole by paper tunning. then lock it down and set sight level by using the string. some say use limb pockets or raiser. on my bows the raiser and string is parallel so I can use either. if the arrow doesn't fall off the rest your good.

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    Actually Brokeanarrow hit this right. Disregarding the rest issue for now, the sight should be perpendicular to the string---always. With most single cams bows that have a top idler wheel this is not going to be perpendicular to the riser.

    If you look, the idler wheel is centered in the top limb fork. The string travels from there to the bottom cam where the string groove is acyually offset to one side about 3/16", maybe a little less. So in essence the string is not parallel with the riser, but is angled. You have to set your sight level for this. True, 3/16" in 30-some inches isn't much, but it depends on how anal you want to be about it. And this only is in regard to single cam bows.

    Now, regarding the rest. I don't see the relevance. It's a pivot point regardless of it's position. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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    My sight is perpendicular to my string. Thats all I know. The other stuff is confusing me...........which is not too difficult.


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    Like people said...

    You first need to level the bowstring front to back and left to right in a bow vise, with the bowstring being vertical. Forget about the riser or shelf. Work off the string. Once you do that you need to adjust your site level, left to right so the level is, well, level...
    If your site has a thrid axis adjustment you need to rotate the bow forward, still in the vise and not moving left-to-right, until the string is now parallel to the ground (level). Then adjust the third axis adjustment on the site to make the level, well, level...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronhop View Post
    Like people said...

    You first need to level the bowstring front to back and left to right in a bow vise, with the bowstring being vertical. Forget about the riser or shelf. Work off the string. Once you do that you need to adjust your site level, left to right so the level is, well, level...
    If your site has a thrid axis adjustment you need to rotate the bow forward, still in the vise and not moving left-to-right, until the string is now parallel to the ground (level). Then adjust the third axis adjustment on the site to make the level, well, level...

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    I think that was the simplest and most well explained procedure for sight leveling that I have heard yet

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    you want the bowstring plumb not level

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    It is OK to cant your bow! I have been doing it for 30 years. I do not have a problem with left and right because I cant the bow the same every time. My bubble keeps it that way. Set the 2nd and 3rd axis off the bow and then cant the bow so you are comfortable. Comfort is more important that vertical riser.

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    Randy Ulmer had an article in the last Peterson's Bowhunting about the importance of third axis leveling especially if you hunt out west with long uphill or downhill shots. I had to read it a few times to understand it fully. Not many sights have 3rd axis however.

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