How do you feel about neighbors that...

IChim2 · 02-23-2008, 11:00 PM

thinks it's ok for their dogs to run loose all over your yard/property.We have 8 acres of heavly wooded land and our house is right in the middle of it and last week i had to do something i hate which is drive to neighboring houses and tell 3 different owners that if their dog came back down,what would happen...and i was as nice about it as possible.One morning last week 2 different neghbors dogs came down and jumped on my beagle that is on a cable and he couldn't get away from them so i grabed the 410 and when i opened the back door they ran up in the woods a ways and i shot a few feet over their head and they ran back towards their homes.I drove up to the owners and told each of them what happened and as much as i hated,if it happened again....it wouldn't be a scare off shot.I couldn't believe what both owners said,which was...were sorry about that,but don't make a mistake of shooting our dogs and went on to say that they hate to pen/tie them up because dogs should get to run and shouldn't be confined a pen or chain.I than told them that i love my pets as much as anyone,but we also respect other peoples property and we keep them in our own yard...and this went back and forth for a bit and when i understood that being nice wasn't going to change anything...i just said to all 3 partys that if it happens again or if they even come down...they won't be comming home.I'm starting to get a complex about people that thinks it's ok for their pets to rome all over other peoples property...sorry.How would some of you reacted to what happened....by the way...they haven't been back,so i guess they took me serious.PS...the 3rd dog just likes to come down at all hours of the night and get into a barking contest with my beagle..which wakes us up at at all hours.

QSA · 02-23-2008, 11:29 PM

well I would not shoot them. That is just leaving yourself open for a law suit. What I would do is call the pound or animal control. Have them picked up. Make sure they know who the owners are. That way they will be fined for letting them run free. You do have a lesh law there right? But if they have to pay to get there dogs back and fines, then they may learn a lesson from it. But if you shoot them, then I hope your dog never gets loose. They will take it is a chance to shoot yours.

QSA · 02-23-2008, 11:30 PM

O yes get is rubber buck shot. That will teach the dogs not to come around your house and it want kill anyones dog.

trussoni · 02-23-2008, 11:32 PM

i dont think a dog should necessarily be tied up either but thats what kennels are for. i know a guy who took a shot at a dog and got in some big trouble for it. just call animal control or something is my suggestion. its not worth fines lawsuits and the beating your good name will take.

bullspotter · 02-23-2008, 11:48 PM

So what your saying is the dog deserves to die due to the owners, not being responable? WOW real stand up guy!!!

IChim2 · 02-24-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bullspotter

So what your saying is the dog deserves to die due to the owners, not being responable? WOW real stand up guy!!!

I am a stand up person....but when they come down and Jump all over my rabbit dog...i have to do something.I did make calls to the local sheriffs dept and even told them where the owners lived and over a 3 wk period...nothing changed....and i ask them what to do if after talking to the owners and it continued to happen.....they said....we won't tell you what you can and can't do...but you have the right to protect your property.Bullspotter....you honestly think thats it ok for people to let their dogs run loose and chew up some one elses dog that is kept on a cable on their own property....are you really that Arrogant.

IChim2 · 02-24-2008, 08:40 AM

Folks,...i don't have a problem with the neighbors dogs straying onto my property now and than.....The Problem is when they jump all over My Dog that is on a 20' cable that is attached to his dog house.And i've been as nice as possible going to the owners and trying to talk about it....but apparently they are so ARROGANT that they don't care.

Wheely · 02-24-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by QSA

well I would not shoot them. That is just leaving yourself open for a law suit. What I would do is call the pound or animal control. Have them picked up. Make sure they know who the owners are. That way they will be fined for letting them run free. You do have a lesh law there right? But if they have to pay to get there dogs back and fines, then they may learn a lesson from it. But if you shoot them, then I hope your dog never gets loose. They will take it is a chance to shoot yours.

Scrotang · 02-24-2008, 02:40 AM

When I was In junior high neighborhood dogs and strays would come around when my lab was in heat. all it took were a few well placed .22 pellets from my old single shot benjamin to send them running and keep them away. (just 2 pumps by the way, I wasn't going for penetration)

dbdcougar · 02-24-2008, 04:03 AM

Agree with those who advise it's time to get the authorities involved.

pred8er · 02-24-2008, 05:42 AM

If the law doesn't work, and most of the time these type of people will not care about the law, there is always SSS (shoot, shovel, shutup).

To everyone else....I certainly would like to know where your property is since you do not mind tresspassers or interlopers. I sure could use a few more places to hunt

archer1983 · 02-24-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by QSA

well I would not shoot them. That is just leaving yourself open for a law suit. What I would do is call the pound or animal control. Have them picked up. Make sure they know who the owners are. That way they will be fined for letting them run free. You do have a lesh law there right? But if they have to pay to get there dogs back and fines, then they may learn a lesson from it. But if you shoot them, then I hope your dog never gets loose. They will take it is a chance to shoot yours.

Good post!

Just a word of warning to anyone that hunts around me...if you ever shoot my dog...there will be serious consequences.
Oh yes, there will be blood.

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by archer1983

Good post!

Just a word of warning to anyone that hunts around me...if you ever shoot my dog...there will be serious consequences.
Oh yes, there will be blood.

So i let tha dog eat me up?

QSA · 02-24-2008, 08:37 PM

This has got way off base. The question ask was not the dog attacking anyone. They were messing with his dog. You are getting into another think here.

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 08:39 PM

so i go in bearhanded and pull this amd dog off my dog let me tell you if I did'nt have aweapon i would be right in tha big middle of it

QSA · 02-24-2008, 08:41 PM

Here I will help, here is a link.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=180455
Double barrel, load a blank in one and rubber buckshot in the other.
Shoot the blank will stop the fight and get the dog moving, then second barrel in the butt. You will never see that dog around any more. And you do not have to dig a hole.

archer1983 · 02-24-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes

So i let tha dog eat me up?

yeah my golden retriever is a real killer bud.

IChim2 · 02-24-2008, 09:46 PM

I did mention a third dog....it's the one that likes to come down at all hours of the night and bark at my beagle and wake us up at all hours of the night.After speaking to it's owners "as nice as possible".....they agreed that it would bother them if it was happening at their house....so they bought a pen for it.....by the way...i wouldn't have harmed it just for barking....but the other 2 were mean.

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by archer1983

yeah my golden retriever is a real killer bud.

Man you are missing tha whole point
and you need ta knock off tha killer stuff
we are a bunch of adults round here and we try ta respect each other
how old are you my friend
young folks sometimes don't understand and try ta make a bad name for themselfs so ta compete with tha big boys
ya don'yt have ta do that here
just be cool and you'll fit in perfectly and be very much accepted by beeing cool and funny

02-25-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by archer1983

Good post!

Just a word of warning to anyone that hunts around me...if you ever shoot my dog...there will be serious consequences.
Oh yes, there will be blood.

Then you might want to learn how to control your dog, instead of putting blame on the shooter.

Even bird dogs in the field hunting birds are not suppose to stray from the hunter, if they do then they are not well trained.

Do you really think that some one that shot your dog would not take action to protect themselves from the irate owner of the dog they shot.

Ancient Archer · 12-20-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by QSA

well I would not shoot them. That is just leaving yourself open for a law suit. What I would do is call the pound or animal control. Have them picked up. Make sure they know who the owners are. That way they will be fined for letting them run free. You do have a lesh law there right? But if they have to pay to get there dogs back and fines, then they may learn a lesson from it. But if you shoot them, then I hope your dog never gets loose. They will take it is a chance to shoot yours.

Sound advice given here. That's exactly whay I would do!

23caps · 05-05-2011, 07:27 PM

A big hava heart trap and a trip to the local pound is alot cheaper than a law suit

vortec 1 · 05-06-2011, 07:38 AM

Live trap the dog's and take them for a ride!!!!!

Your choice,the pound or 20 miles away.

It's not the dog's problem, It's the stupid neighbor's.

thehairlessone! · 02-24-2008, 08:21 AM

I hate people that let their dogs run loose. Within a block of my house there is a fireman right across the street and a cop a few house down. They are the worst I have ever seen.

I have called and called the humane society and then they will put the dogs up for a few weeks and then they are running loose again.

They are nice guys but they need to keep their darned animals put up. One time after the firemans dog chased an 80 yr. old lady down the street I called the cops and told them they have 5 minutes to get someone over there or I was calling their supervisor.

The cops and animal control were there in 2. When I told the cop that I wanted to something done and I was tired of them not doing anything he replied, " But he's a fireman! "

I said that is nice and I appreciate his service but he has to follow the law just like everyone else. He did get a ticket that time.

One tip. Make sure you take photos. That way there is no dispute.

rick

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IChim2

thinks it's ok for their dogs to run loose all over your yard/property.We have 8 acres of heavly wooded land and our house is right in the middle of it and last week i had to do something i hate which is drive to neighboring houses and tell 3 different owners that if their dog came back down,what would happen...and i was as nice about it as possible.One morning last week 2 different neghbors dogs came down and jumped on my beagle that is on a cable and he couldn't get away from them so i grabed the 410 and when i opened the back door they ran up in the woods a ways and i shot a few feet over their head and they ran back towards their homes.I drove up to the owners and told each of them what happened and as much as i hated,if it happened again....it wouldn't be a scare off shot.I couldn't believe what both owners said,which was...were sorry about that,but don't make a mistake of shooting our dogs and went on to say that they hate to pen/tie them up because dogs should get to run and shouldn't be confined a pen or chain.I than told them that i love my pets as much as anyone,but we also respect other peoples property and we keep them in our own yard...and this went back and forth for a bit and when i understood that being nice wasn't going to change anything...i just said to all 3 partys that if it happens again or if they even come down...they won't be comming home.I'm starting to get a complex about people that thinks it's ok for their pets to rome all over other peoples property...sorry.How would some of you reacted to what happened....by the way...they haven't been back,so i guess they took me serious.PS...the 3rd dog just likes to come down at all hours of the night and get into a barking contest with my beagle..which wakes us up at at all hours.

1st I would have not said a word to anybody
2nd tha dogs would have not went home
nuff said

Wheely · 02-24-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes

1st I would have not said a word to anybody
2nd tha dogs would have not went home
nuff said

Wow Smokes, I expected a little more of a Godly answer from you

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheely

Wow Smokes, I expected a little more of a Godly answer from you

Sorry I dissapointed you Wheels if they are threating my property
Well I am gonna protect it
If they had came at me, my wife, or my pet -human or animal
I am gonna " provide for my family" now thats Bible

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 05:13 PM

BTW htat is if they are harrasing us
if they around just cruising I will soot a bottle rocket
but now tha aggressive stuff
different story
how do we know they ain't rabid
i anit gonna give a chance ta git us

QSA · 02-24-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes

BTW htat is if they are harrasing us
if they around just cruising I will soot a bottle rocket
but now tha aggressive stuff
different story
how do we know they ain't rabid
i anit gonna give a chance ta git us

Because he said he now the dogs and there owners.

QSA · 02-24-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes

1st I would have not said a word to anybody
2nd tha dogs would have not went home
nuff said

I never thought I would here that from you somkes. I for one never though I would see the day I would do this to you. You know the big books teachs peace. I under stand if they were attacking you or yours, but just coming around and doing dog things. I hae gave the best thing to do. Rubber buckshot will hurt like crap and most dogs learn from one round in the but.

Holy Smokes · 02-24-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by QSA

I never thought I would here that from you somkes. I for one never though I would see the day I would do this to you. You know the big books teachs peace. I under stand if they were attacking you or yours, but just coming around and doing dog things. I hae gave the best thing to do. Rubber buckshot will hurt like crap and most dogs learn from one round in the but.

Dude when you have had your nose in The Book for 27 yrs like me and understand what it says then I will accept your No nos
I Have got tha Word behind me on this one
This like piling on QSA
15 yrd penlty

1 Tim 5:7-8

7 And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless.

8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel .
KJV
Would you let another animal or human attack your dog or family member
the roll of the man is to provide and protect
and infidel is a sinner-unbeliver

pred8er · 02-24-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by QSA

Money out of there pockets will always work.

what do you want but load of rubber buckshot coming your way. Did you not read my post? I take it you do not have pets. Let me put it this way. I take care of my pets, Fenced in back yard. But the trash man leaves the gate open and my dogs will not leave the fence. But if they did, does that give you the right to shoot them? No They are a member of my family an I will deal with anyone that messes with them just as I would one of my kids.
There are non lethal ways of dealing with this problem.

Rubber Buckshot
This will also work on people unwanted on your land also. The courts will see you as a stand up guy for using it. It shows you have enough brains to handle the issues with a strong arm with out used deadly force.
Now inside my house, or lets say the doors and windows are the kill zone. Once crossed you will be rolled out with a sheet over you, toes up.

First off, yes I did read your post. Yes, I do have pets (three dogs, three cats and 2 ferrets) none of which get out of my yard because they have been TRAINED to listen and do what they are told. If they for some reason did leave the yard I would have absolutely no problem with someone taking care of buisness if they were harrassing them or destroying property, or if it was habitual. It then becomes my problem.

Just so you know, utilizing rubber bullets/buckshot can be seen by a jury as trying to inflict damage to cause pain and suffering. That is not going to help your case. "This man is smart enough to know how to cause the maximum amount of pain with out causing death, did he work at an Iraqi prison?" People have been sued because of the amount of damage these things do.

If your child was the one repeatedly destroying my property or habitulally coming in my yard, I would seriously consider hiring a lawyer to sue for "finacial endagerment". You, nor anybody here, can guarentee that if the child in question were to be hurt on my property that they would not sue me, therefore, that child is putting me at finacial risk by their actions.

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Originally Posted by QSA

I never thought I would here that from you somkes. I for one never though I would see the day I would do this to you. You know the big books teachs peace. I under stand if they were attacking you or yours, but just coming around and doing dog things. I hae gave the best thing to do. Rubber buckshot will hurt like crap and most dogs learn from one round in the but.

The bible also says to do unto others, and this is a two way street......

02-25-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes

1st I would have not said a word to anybody
2nd tha dogs would have not went home
nuff said

I to must admit that I was surprised, but I do like what you said, it only goes to show everyone of us that you are human just like the rest of us. That is what we all are first, our calling what ever it may be comes in behind that.
I thank you for being honest with us

Holy Smokes · 02-25-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dodgensince74

I to must admit that I was surprised, but I do like what you said, it only goes to show everyone of us that you are human just like the rest of us. That is what we all are first, our calling what ever it may be comes in behind that.
I thank you for being honest with us

Yes sir bud
I put my pants on just like you
1 leg at a time.
I do try ta stay with in tha limits of tha Bible on every decision I make
i am under tha maginfying glass of society and rightly so
and some of tha PC stuff ,like not protecting yoreself and calling tha police to protect you just ain't what hta consitution says
I'd be shot full of holes by tha time they got there

i really want to clarify one thing
and I will say it agian
if a domestic animal comes into my yard and is just crusing
I take a bottle rocket nad shoot it yes at them
by tha time tha fuse and tha scream gits ta going they have high tailed it out.
I do not shoot them
I find no pleasure in just killing an animal
so pls don't ban me Wheels

MichiganHunter · 02-25-2008, 08:22 AM

i get dogs in my yard all the time from the people that live around me. all of the owners have come up to me and tell me there sorry and thats fine there all good dogs all there dogs are nice and they play with mine so its not a big deal. not to mention it doesnt happen all the time. but if one comes into my yard and attacks my dogs..... its not leaving on its own.

tnts79 · 02-25-2008, 09:00 AM

I'm not an advocate of killing the neighbors dogs, but if one were to come in my yard and attack my dog I wouldn't object to shooting it. I would either sting it with a low powered pellet gun(first time offender) or use enough gun to be sure it doesn't get away....(repeat offender). Good luck and aim straight!

Westy · 06-27-2011, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Smokes

1st I would have not said a word to anybody
2nd tha dogs would have not went home
nuff said

A Big Amen to that mate 8 acres a couple of dog bodies could disappear real easy !Tell me this do you own your property,do the neighbours help chip in and pay the morgage or the rates then what the

ell gives them the right to run there dogs all over it and distroy your stuff.Man things must have really gone down hill in the U.S.

since I lived there?

I have a bow cause there a silent killer put the 410 away!!!

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Where's Bruce? · 07-14-2011, 07:57 PM

I use em for paintball practice...owners get the drift pretty quickly when Snoopy comes home tagged.