Baiting, yes or no

red44 · 07-02-2011, 12:16 AM

Is it allowed where you are? (where)
Do you bait? Are you OK with it?
I can't, nor do I want it here in Ma.
I'm talking feeders...

vortec 1 · 07-02-2011, 04:48 PM

It was legal in Michigan then they outlawed it, people still baited.They are about to legalize it again so here come the truck loads of carrots,corn and sugar beets.

srj26 · 07-02-2011, 08:44 PM

Feeding is allowed here in MO but has to be removed from the "area" 2 weeks before hunting that "area". Now there is no clear definition to what or how big an "area" is considered. But mineral licks are legal year round as well as salt blocks. I don't really care for the idea of hunting over "bait" but I do hunt close to where my Mineral hole is.

Cornfed · 07-02-2011, 09:47 PM

A big NO here in Illinois! In fact, we can't even put out minerals or a salt lick here without serious fines!!! If we want to "bait" here then we have to do it with foodplots.

BuckeyeRed · 07-02-2011, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornfed

A big NO here in Illinois! In fact, we can't even put out minerals or a salt lick here without serious fines!!! If we want to "bait" here then we have to do it with foodplots.

Illinois is retarted, I dont like the idea of hunting over a bait pile but why not make mineral legal till September or something just for the sake of trail cameras?

Kinda like our stupid orange army regulations, solid blaze only. Because you know someone might mistake breakup blaze to be a game animal, right...

luther1980 · 07-02-2011, 11:57 PM

Im not big on the baiting idea myself,never done it personally,and never had an issue with harvesting my fair share of wilderness stew either....as the age old phrase goes if it aint broke dont fix it lol.....i do put out a few mineral blocks and salt blocks,but i use livestock blocks not them susposed specially formulated for deer blocks that cabelas and other outdoor companies would like you believe are the best.i use blocks cause they help the deer to maintain a better nutrient level and promote growth,and all out healthier deer.
Now what i really dont understand,is most of these guys baiting,are using corn........and theyre hunting in or on the edge of a friggn corn field?????either way it just isnt right in my opinion,just a way for some people to make hunting easier for them.whats the point of hunting if theres no challenge?i dont know bout yall,but thats the part i thrive for...being able out smart that animal,in its own natural habitat.

Chris · 07-03-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cornfed

A big NO here in Illinois! In fact, we can't even put out minerals or a salt lick here without serious fines!!! If we want to "bait" here then we have to do it with foodplots.

Unless you are the IL DNR then you can bait and use spot lights at night to shoot as many deer as you can find and have unlimited tags. Here's the best part, you even get paid by the tax payers to do this.

BUNNYMAN · 07-03-2011, 08:54 PM

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Unless you are the IL DNR then you can bait and use spot lights at night to shoot as many deer as you can find and have unlimited tags. Here's the best part, you even get paid by the tax payers to do this.

Do they have any openings?.....

eliterules · 08-13-2011, 09:44 AM

Whether it was put there by GOD or you,you ALL hunt over bait,in some form or another,it could be,you are sitting in an oak grove that is bait,a persimion tree,that is bait a field of soy beans.So what does it matter if you can put a pile of carrots or apples or suger beets out to hunt over,i used to live and hunt in Michigan,and i hunted over piles of corn,carrots and suger beets and it dosent really make it any easier,because you have tha battle of the bait piles going on,he who has the biggest pile wins.At first it works then the deer get smart after getting shot at a few times,then they become knockturnel.
So dont get all worked up about hunting over bait,we all hunt over bait,wether you put it there or GOD put it there,if it is leagle dont bash it.

dbdcougar · 08-13-2011, 10:53 AM

One thing about making baiting legal is it would stop the neighbor who baits his property to mess with hunting adjoining properties.

red44 · 08-13-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dbdcougar

One thing about making baiting legal is it would stop the neighbor who baits his property to mess with hunting adjoining properties.

How about making it illegal everywhere. Would'nt that do the same thing? You have to have the balls to drop a dime on your neighbor, but in the long run I think it would help clean up HUNTING.

dbdcougar · 08-15-2011, 11:21 AM

Nope, making it illegal everywhere wouldn't change anything in regards to the antihunting type who puts bait out to affect his neighber's ability to hunt his own property. I'd be more inclined to allow baiting everywhere. I just don't see baiting as a big deal one way or the other. Most people who are against it live in a state where it's illegal and don't have much experience hunting a state that does allow it. Like I said I hunt KY every year and we normally don't bother putting anything out, it just doesn't make much difference in what we see. The disease issue has pretty well been debunked as well.

vortec 1 · 08-15-2011, 12:33 PM

I've been through this here in Michigan before and they are making it legal again. If you really don't want a challenge and just want to be a shooter ,than go for it!!! Here, you can buy as many tags as you want everyday. It's the shoot everything sindrum so why not make it easy for everyone to just kill all the does and button bucks.Just throw out some C'mere deer shake and bake and it fixes everything.

red44 · 08-13-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eliterules

Whether it was put there by GOD or you,you ALL hunt over bait,in some form or another,it could be,you are sitting in an oak grove that is bait,a persimion tree,that is bait a field of soy beans.So what does it matter if you can put a pile of carrots or apples or suger beets out to hunt over,i used to live and hunt in Michigan,and i hunted over piles of corn,carrots and suger beets and it dosent really make it any easier,because you have tha battle of the bait piles going on,he who has the biggest pile wins.At first it works then the deer get smart after getting shot at a few times,then they become knockturnel.
So dont get all worked up about hunting over bait,we all hunt over bait,wether you put it there or GOD put it there,if it is leagle dont bash it.

So why bother with bait at all then?
Bait is for fishing or trapping. Why not just put a hook in the bait pile and drag him in? You don't see a difference? Seriously?

poorman · 08-16-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by red44

So why bother with bait at all then?
Bait is for fishing or trapping. Why not just put a hook in the bait pile and drag him in? You don't see a difference? Seriously?

So its okay for fish or fur but not deer? I dont understand that Red??

The end result is the same for all three.

Where's Bruce? · 08-16-2011, 09:38 PM

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So its okay for fish or fur but not deer? I dont understand that Red??

The end result is the same for all three.

His point is that baiting is okay for TRAPPING and FISHING. He is saying it is not okay for HUNTING. Hunting by definition requires active skill sets of pursuit. If you set up a tree standing 15 yards from bait and wait for an animal that's been photographed more than Paris Hilton...you are not hunting. Killing? Ambushing? Harvesting? Yes. Hunting? No.

poorman · 08-17-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Where's Bruce?

His point is that baiting is okay for TRAPPING and FISHING. He is saying it is not okay for HUNTING. Hunting by definition requires active skill sets of pursuit. If you set up a tree standing 15 yards from bait and wait for an animal that's been photographed more than Paris Hilton...you are not hunting. Killing? Ambushing? Harvesting? Yes. Hunting? No.

I know what his point was and I'm saying its flawed as is yours.

I could use the same logic for fishing and or trapping.

Its not fishing if you use a worm and a hook its just catching. JUst throw the line out and reel them in.

Its not real trapping if you use bait. Heck you dont even have to be there to catch them.

See what I mean? To say it is okay for one sport but not the other just doesnt make sense to me.

I believe that if its legal and you want to use bait then go for it. I think its a personal choice and my choice has no bearing on your choice and yours has no bearing on mine.