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Old 01-14-2009, 06:57 AM   #1
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Going through the process of re-setting up a bow and not having really shot for about 6 months my groups were horrid. I was right in up and down but my arrows were scattered horizontally.

Remembering an old training tool.... I folded up a target tall and narrow, and placed it down range.. (See lane 2)

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A few ends concentrating on just left-right nothing more. when the black line is straight up and down in teh middle of the sight picture, release.

My first:
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somewhere around the third or fourth:
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And I was shooting nice tight groups: Still high and left, but tight...
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Now, I can adjust the sight!


It's a good thing, for you all, I'm not shooting the Smack-Down league!!!!
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Are those the Buckbuster arrows by Victory? Are they any good?
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I have found when my groups open up an effective way to tighten them up is to shoot from a much closer distance.
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I have found when my groups open up an effective way to tighten them up is to shoot from a much closer distance.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:09 PM   #5
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I have found when my groups open up an effective way to tighten them up is to shoot from a much closer distance.
lol thats wat i was thinking
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So are you saying you just shot at that narrow target and it improved your groups or did you make an adjustment to your bow in some fashion? Sorry I am kinda confused here...
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So are you saying you just shot at that narrow target and it improved your groups or did you make an adjustment to your bow in some fashion? Sorry I am kinda confused here...
yeah I was waiting for that question..........
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Yes... at least better than Carbon Express Thunder Storms.
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So are you saying you just shot at that narrow target and it improved your groups or did you make an adjustment to your bow in some fashion? Sorry I am kinda confused here...
Yes... precisely, just concentrated on getting them >narrow<
No adjustments to the bow, it was all mental.
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Yes... precisely, just concentrated on getting them >narrow<
No adjustments to the bow, it was all mental.
Ok squid buddy this is what I see happening here.. Your drive by shooting.... Your prolly torquing your wrist or punching your release or a combination of both....
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Yes... precisely, just concentrated on getting them >narrow<
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What distance is this???

Recurve or compound???
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What distance is this???

Recurve or compound???
20 Yards, compound Martin P3, (35#@28")
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20 Yards, compound Martin P3, (35#@28")
are you having trouble holding steady??

maybe lower your poundage......

didnt you say, that you were an archery instructer??

just aimimg better should not fix the PROBLEM you are having unless you went from eyes CLOSED to eyes OPEN
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are you having trouble holding steady??

Yes.... I have a torn labrum and bicep tendon. It hurts like hell to shoot! but I have exactly 29 hour of shooting left before I go under the knife to get it all fixed... and after that I will not be even picking up a bow for 6 months. so a man has gotta do whatever he can to fix his jones... or at least shoot enough cards to have something to submit to jcmorgan so I can toss some smack for a few weeks more.
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It could be as simple as your hand placement on your holding arm. I found that my groups spread out when I don't concentrate on the way I'm actually holding my bow. When I don't have the right grip on it, my arrows tend to hit wide. My vertical is accurate but the horizontal is way off. I think it comes from popping my wrist at the time of release because the bow isnt' centered in my hand. I had to start placing the bow pretty much on the base of my thumb in the palm to get consistent. It took gettin' used to but I'm grouping much better.
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Oh yeah, also, try to eliminate looking at the whole target when you are aiming. Try to create a tunnle vison effect and pick a single spot on the target. Look at nothing but that spot and block out everything else.
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It could be as simple as your hand placement on your holding arm. I found that my groups spread out when I don't concentrate on the way I'm actually holding my bow. When I don't have the right grip on it, my arrows tend to hit wide. My vertical is accurate but the horizontal is way off. I think it comes from popping my wrist at the time of release because the bow isnt' centered in my hand. I had to start placing the bow pretty much on the base of my thumb in the palm to get consistent. It took gettin' used to but I'm grouping much better.
maybe you didnt see the part where he says he has a tear in his shoulder and it is painful for him to hold a bow and that when he gets suregery he wont be able to for 6 months
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maybe you didnt see the part where he says he has a tear in his shoulder and it is painful for him to hold a bow and that when he gets suregery he wont be able to for 6 months

It's still good avice, none-the-less.
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It's still good avice, none-the-less.
i agree i was just sayin
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maybe you didnt see the part where he says he has a tear in his shoulder and it is painful for him to hold a bow and that when he gets suregery he wont be able to for 6 months
Nah, I seen it. I was just tryin' to answer his question. He obviously knows he has an injury and still posted the question. I'm sure the injury is a factor but it still sounds like he's popping his wrist. If it was just the injury I'd think he's be off vertically as well. Either way I hope your shoulder surgery goes well and you have a quick recovery. Just sayin.
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Nah, I seen it. I was just tryin' to answer his question. He obviously knows he has an injury and still posted the question.
what question?

I posted a statement, a tip, a tool I use to help bring my shots together... There was no queation.

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