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Old 02-12-2009, 12:32 AM   #1
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i am considering replacing the factory string on my bt general reading about vaportrail strings they say it could add ''up to" 10fps feadback needed what strings are best? has anyone used vaportrails
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:47 AM   #2
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i am considering replacing the factory string on my bt general reading about vaportrail strings they say it could add ''up to" 10fps feadback needed what strings are best? has anyone used vaportrails
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Just had new strings made and put on my bow Schmidtys Specialty Strings the owner of an Archery shop in La Crosse makes them. Excellent string but 10 fps is a stretch I think. Anyways great looking strings and they seem to perform flawlessly so far made my Drenalin feel and shoot like she was new again. aschmidt@lacrossearchery.com is the guys email addy or you can go to ssstrings.com to check them out. the colors are so much better on the bow rather than the stock pictures they put on the web page though.
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VaporTrails are some of the best strings any where.

I am currently running a special. So you get great strings at a Great price!

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Old 02-12-2009, 11:38 AM   #5
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I just got a set from jcmorgan31.

He has some of the best built string/cables around at a fair price and great customer service.

I have used Vapor Trail string/cables in the past and Mr. Morgans are better built for sure.

Don't believe the 10 fps speed increase. The speed difference will depend on a lot of things conspiring together. When I put Vapor Trails on my Ovation I did not gain any speed and I had to add twists to the cable to get the cam timing right. A lot of twists.... But I do have to say that I had no string creep or peep rotation problems after I got them shot in. Justin's strings are just built better by a lot, especially the care with the servings he does.

I would highly recommend jcmorgan31's work.

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I just got a set from jcmorgan31.

He has some of the best built string/cables around at a fair price and great customer service.

I have used Vapor Trail string/cables in the past and Mr. Morgans are better built for sure.

Don't believe the 10 fps speed increase. The speed difference will depend on a lot of things conspiring together. When I put Vapor Trails on my Ovation I did not gain any speed and I had to add twists to the cable to get the cam timing right. A lot of twists.... But I do have to say that I had no string creep or peep rotation problems after I got them shot in. Justin's strings are just built better by a lot, especially the care with the servings he does.

I would highly recommend jcmorgan31's work.

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X2- I used Vapopr Trails for years and jcmorgans31s are better and easier on the wallet.
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My question to anyone making a claim like that is "how is the extra speed achieved?".

The only way that I know of to do it with strings and cables alone is to reduce the number of strands and to use lighter or shorter servings. This is assuming that the strings are all 452X or equal.

Most stings are overbuilt so a strand or two usualy isn't much of a problem. I doubt that less serving or lighter serving is a problem either unless you need if for a reason beyond bow performance.

The question becomes how far do they go with strand and serving reduction. If you are shooting wth a short draw length and low draw weight, it would likely be safe to reduce the number of strands quite a bit.

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I really got no problem with people promoting the products they sell or use. This my friend was uncalled for and you being a representitive of vaportrail should know better....
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:38 PM   #11
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My question to anyone making a claim like that is "how is the extra speed achieved?".

The only way that I know of to do it with strings and cables alone is to reduce the number of strands and to use lighter or shorter servings. This is assuming that the strings are all 452X or equal.

Most stings are overbuilt so a strand or two usualy isn't much of a problem. I doubt that less serving or lighter serving is a problem either unless you need if for a reason beyond bow performance.

The question becomes how far do they go with strand and serving reduction. If you are shooting wth a short draw length and low draw weight, it would likely be safe to reduce the number of strands quite a bit.
You are correct Allen, that is the only way I know of to gain speed if materials are the same.
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I wonder, is it friction due to servings over the cams that would make one string faster than another, or weight, or diameter? One of these is more important than the other, but I don't have a clue. If I had to guess serving size, friction properties of the serving, and fit in the cams would be most important. It seems to me that the string part, thats only resistance is air and it's own weight, would make little difference.

I am not an expert I just ask about such things because I spent 20 years designing electro/mechanical products. It taught me to never accept my ability to use logic, I trust tests.
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Ive shot Bowtech factory strings, Wolfden strings,and Winners choice strings(all fine strings mind you).BUT everything has Ranger strings on them now!!!!!!!!!! Including several of my buddys bows. You cant beat the price and quality Justin offers.
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Vapor Trails makes a good set of strings. I just ordered a set of America's Best, looking forward to trying these out.
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I really got no problem with people promoting the products they sell or use. This my friend was uncalled for and you being a representitive of vaportrail should know better....
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Am I the only one that read the sarcasim in that post?...
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Nope........but I just ignored it.
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Hi Folks

I will keep this short

My Favorite all time Strings & Cables

Factory Stock Mathews
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Kinda what I was thinkin but I am going to try out the Ranger Strings.

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wasnt sure how to take that- So I blew it off- I can only give advise on what I have used and I still stand by my Post- Mabey MeanV should try a set from Justin before posting like that Thanks Fiddle
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I'll do that BowhuntnHoosier

She shot another 56X last night sheeewww she's hammerin

I think she plans on rockin the ladies div. at State this weekend
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She shot another 56X last night sheeewww she's hammerin

I think she plans on rockin the ladies div. at State this weekend
Tell Jess I wish you both luck...
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had no luck with the stock Mathews string never had proper peep rotation and had tons of fraying down by the cam. had 2 sets of barracuda string put on it did the same thing.
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VaporTrails are some of the best strings any where.

I am currently running a special. So you get great strings at a Great price!

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Soooooooooooooooo tell us about your special, nutten on your site ??
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Vaportrails arnt made from 452X, they are made from "VTX". Its a little bit lighter than 452x, supposedly only 2 or 3 people know what this VTX blend is. so this would make sense if it was a few fps faster.

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Vaportrails arnt made from 452X, they are made froma specail "VTX". Its a little bit lighter than 452x, supposedly only 2 or 3 people know what this VTX blend is.
Really?

VTX has absolutely no movement either. I put them to the test on my 82nd this past season. Hunted Rain, Snow, 80+ degrees, & 20 degrees below zero.

I never had anything move!

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VTX has absolutely no movement either. I put them to the test on my 82nd this past season. Hunted Rain, Snow, 80+ degrees, & 20 degrees below zero.

I never had anything move!

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Am I the only one that read the sarcasim in that post?...
I took it as a question, like: Do you think so? Maybe I'm not digging deep enough.
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