07-01-2009, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: JOHNSON,VT
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Anyone see more complaining at 3d's this year?
Is it just up here or is there a lot more complaining about course set ups and how shoots are run this year every where? I have heard so much complaining about just about everything at every shoot I have gone to this year, mostly over distances, I have heard people complaining that practice butts were short or long a yard or two,things like Open class shooters complaining about long shots over 35 yards , I thought that is what the open class was for or at a recent qualifier a couple people walked off the course because they thought it was to tough or targets aren't brand new (not bad enough for pass trough's) or one is missing a head (I don't aim for heads anyway). I didn't think it was that bad ,it will be tougher at the championships . I feel a tougher course makes me better and I welcome the challenge that's why I shoot the longer stakes. The other thing is tunnels?? Some people say they shoot 3D to practice for hunting and complain about tunnels or dark shady spots I know when I am hunting the animals don't always walk out into the open perfectly cut shooting lanes
sorry to ramble but it's getting ridiculous
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07-01-2009, 09:30 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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i've heard some here too, which i think is normal. most ranges set up to please the asa crowd.
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07-02-2009, 08:09 AM
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He Who Drops His Bow Arm
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Indiana
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I'd say maybe a little less than usual actually.
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07-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In the horn of Michigan
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After years in a service based industry I ve decided....
Complaining makes people happy.
The End.
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07-02-2009, 10:13 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
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The only complaint I'm hearing is having to walk so far to the ranges. Which sucks.
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07-02-2009, 12:11 PM
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Story of my life
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: N. Illinois
Posts: 851
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havent heard much complaining here, I did shoot with some folks and they started talking about my club(didnt have a club shirt on) which I am the vice president of. I listened for a while then said to them " So I guess our course is predictable".........got real quiet they tried to apologize which of course i told them it was no big deal, I was using what they said as constructive criticism. kinda funny though
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07-02-2009, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
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Your always going to have complaints. The only thing I don't like is when they make all the shots the same. What I mean is they are all long or all short. Oh and the animals should be appropriate for the distance. If you want a longer shot say 45 yards, don't put the skunk out there.
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07-02-2009, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,934
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Complaints
Honestly this year in Oklahoma has been good. Most courses I have been to have been set reasonable.
My biggest complaint is making the courses to hard. Most want reasonable distances set which understandable. Setting small target unreasonable distances is the biggest complaints I hear.
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07-02-2009, 03:49 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: JOHNSON,VT
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I know that there is complaining at every shoot I have been 3ding for over 15 years and putting on shoots with no help except for my wife on shoot days but this year seem to be the worst it's been in a long time . Attendance is down big time and every club is doing there best, most clubs are only doing one day shoots two times a year a couple only put on one I do three, I am a die hard and still do 2 days my wife keeps telling me I shouldn't put in the effort with the poor turn out ( I do it for me), and the lack of respect it's making a lot of the clubs not want to put in the work. You can get 100 great jobs but you get a couple of complaints and it really hits hard and you get less and less help
It's not just here in Vermont I go to shoots all over New England and the belly aching and nit picking is getting bad
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07-02-2009, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Machesney Park
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My only complaint is when they put a backstop 10 yards off to the side  I really don't understand
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07-02-2009, 04:45 PM
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Old Archer
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Snyder, TX
Posts: 22
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Gee's Guys, we don't have a club within a 100 miles of us but me and the Grandsons try to make a shoot once a month. We do it just for the fun of it and really have a blast no matter what the range is like. So far every shoot we have gone to has been cold and rainy, and we live in West Texas where it doesn't rain that often. Life is just to short to get upset over someting like an archery shoot not being set up like you want it. Besides the cost isn't all that much around here. $10 for non club members and you get to meet some really nice people, except for those your talking about that complain a lot.
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07-02-2009, 05:15 PM
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Recycle archer
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: westcentral Iowa
Posts: 13,746
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There will always be complainers !
 There are some  ( my wife's relatives  seem to be this way ) ,that will always ,  be doing the complaining regardless !  You can't please everyone  ,so why  try !
God made them ,so the rest of us could feel good about  ourselves !
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07-02-2009, 09:51 PM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 31
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I've seen a small amount in Washington. I'm a bit of noob to 3-d and I didn't expect it.
I think for me, I want to be pushed... I want a challenging course.
I'd rather lose or break 5 arrows because it was tough than brease through and shoot up along with 15 other people. (wow, another deer at 23 yards...)
One complaint I overheard that I guess I dont understand was a few weeks ago.
There was a turkey target and it was at least 37 yards. A fair poke
I think a few of us snuck 8's and the rest got 5's
This one guy was in full fledge rant (he got a 5) about the unrealistic distance... target too far etc.
Put that sucker out there at 67... I dont care. We all have to shoot the same freakin shot. The tough ones separate the men from the boys.
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