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Old 09-14-2009, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default Hi-speed camera, what would you like to see?

If you had access to a high-speed camera, what would you want to see?
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:25 AM   #2
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Digital for sure. With lots of memory. The film style cameras I've used in the past cost WAY too much to operate.

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Old 09-15-2009, 06:29 AM   #3
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At the larger tournaments you could pay $20.00 to get three shots of your arrow leaving the bow in slow motion. THis would be an excellant tool and I would love to have a place to watch this!
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:51 AM   #4
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We are going to use this as a tool for those bows that are just a pain to tune. It should bring to light some things we have always thought but could never prove.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:51 AM   #5
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drop away rest and bow string with and without a string stopper
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would also like to see what the diffrence is between a arrow one with stright fletch and one with offset
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:17 AM   #7
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1. Lots of different brands of arrow rests (especially drop aways) during the shot. Limbdriver, Ripcord, trophy taker, QAD, G5 etc etc

2. Laura Francese running

Maybe not in that order
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what id like to see is how much does different amounts of vane contact make on the arrow as it leaves the rest .
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:36 AM   #9
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would also like to see what the diffrence is between a arrow one with stright fletch and one with offset
Explain what you are trying to see? Obviously one will spin more, the other may not spin at all.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:23 AM   #10
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I'd like to see close-ups from several different angles of some of the top pros like Chance, Reo, Dave, Danny & others.

Unfortunately, it won't make me shoot as well them, but it could satisfy some curiosity about their form.

Other things:
overhead shots of various releases - many releases are not as torque neutral as we often think.
what's going on with the various cam types during the shot
strings & cable reactions during the shot
the operation of various rests

I've wanted one of those cameras for a long time. What did you get?

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Old 09-15-2009, 11:46 AM   #11
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We are going to use this as a tool for those bows that are just a pain to tune. It should bring to light some things we have always thought but could never prove.
At how many drop aways are getting contact when not done right. I watched several videos at these tournaments and it was perfectly clear the fletch was getting contact often.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:11 PM   #12
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I would like to see a dry fire. not just any dry fire but a dry fire from a 100lb bow with an extremely aggressive cam. BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

okay instead of all the destruction I think the release idea posted in the above comments is a great thing.







still would like to see a dry fire though!

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Old 09-15-2009, 01:18 PM   #13
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Explain what you are trying to see? Obviously one will spin more, the other may not spin at all.
I have shot both and cant see a big difference if any. maybe a little more speed with the straight fletch. just wondering how much faster the offset will stablize. I am talking about fletching two inches or shorter.
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Digital for sure. With lots of memory. The film style cameras I've used in the past cost WAY too much to operate.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:26 AM   #15
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I would like to see an arrow hitting something hard, like plate steel. I think that would be cool.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:39 AM   #16
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Chris, I would like to see a couple of things:

1. An IBO arrow shot out of a Monster XLR8. One video with a dead stop and another with out.

2. A XXX shaft with no more than 150 grains up front shot off a spring steel. Then another with a 300 grain tip. We know that both set ups can shoot spots great, but we need to play with the nock and rest height, many like some lift at the nock end of the shaft to limit contact with the rest. Lets just set this one up level and see the difference and with some different width/thickness'e of launcher blades.

3. I would also like to see how much deflection there is on a shaft when it penetrates and stops in a target. IMO there needs to be enough penetration to keep the arrow from flexing too much. Just look at the life span of a 12 th. aluminum wall compared to a thicker carbon wall. We all want a target butt that lasts, but some penetration would be beneficial to the thinner walled shafts.

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Old 09-25-2009, 02:30 AM   #17
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Arrow Parflex? I think its called. Say a Goldtip 7595 shot at 55lbs 65lbs and Then 70lbs. Thank You!
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I'd like to see if a wrist strap index finger release adds a little lateral ocillation on the string at the shot as compared to a handheld thumb trigger release. I suppose it would or might be somewhat dependent on how heavy the trigger is set on the index model, but, just one of those dumb things I wonder about.
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top level shooters eyes focused on target/pin ...how many changes
hand held release activation, BT, punch, combo...
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bows shot from hooter shooter with arrows of correct, under, and over spined from rear to 40 yard target
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:20 PM   #20
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Vertical and horizontal nock travel for as many bows and different cams as you can get your hands on. I don't know how you could accurately measure the dynamic nock travel but it would be great to know what is actually happening during the shot.
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I'd like to see close-ups from several different angles of some of the top pros like Chance, Reo, Dave, Danny & others.
I attended a class put on by Mj Rogers a few years ago where we watched some high speed footage of different people shooting. One clip I remember very well is of Chance shooting a bow that had the blade of the rest kicking back up into the nock end of the arrow when he shot causing very erratic looking arrow flight, But when the same shots where shown from a different angle where you could see the target too, every shot went into the baby x on a vegas face. The point Mj was trying to make .... Bow tune doesnt mean a thing if you can duplicate the same shot every time.
Sorry if I got a bit off topic.
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I attended a class put on by Mj Rogers a few years ago where we watched some high speed footage of different people shooting. One clip I remember very well is of Chance shooting a bow that had the blade of the rest kicking back up into the nock end of the arrow when he shot causing very erratic looking arrow flight, But when the same shots where shown from a different angle where you could see the target too, every shot went into the baby x on a vegas face. The point Mj was trying to make .... Bow tune doesnt mean a thing if you can duplicate the same shot every time.
Sorry if I got a bit off topic.
I agree with that at 20 yards. I have had abow shoot great at twenty tearing hard right about two inches but man at 50 never new where it was going.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:04 AM   #23
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I would like to see the effects of different stabilizers on a bow

Also would like to see how different string stops perform

Mabe even how different bows react when shot. Would give insight into vibration, hand shock forces, and the general movement of different bows.

Also would like to see how different sights react when the bow is shot.
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what the arrow looks like on a bow shot at the same weight with 3 different spined arrows stiff , right , and weak . out of a hooter shooter with the bow tuned too the middle arrow .
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