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Old 02-08-2011, 04:10 PM   #1
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Well, now the tyrants at AT have banned threads that are against crossbows. You are only allowed to post threads that PROMOTEcrossbows or crossbow hunting. If you post a thread AGAINST CROSSBOWS, you will be BANNED!!
According to the Tyrannosaurus Tyrants this is not censorship because they don't allow pornography either! LOL!
Why don't they be honest: its about MONEY!!
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Crossbows have there own forums.


Why even mention them in bohunting forums any more?

Dont go into crossbow forums. Seems pretty simple to me.

Most archers realize there just for those who cant shoot a bow.
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i has a friend who has shoulder problem and couldnt pull the bow and he bought a crossbow and result in couldnt pulled the crossbow with his lower back and shoulder so he sell and buy a crossbow that has a reel in to pull the string..

well i beleive in crossbow would be better for people who cant do pull the bow or whatever, i dont need a crossbow unless somethings happen to me then will be crossbow

175 or 200 lb draw crossbow vs 70 lb draw compound bow
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I'm on the fence on this one. My father was born missing two vertebre in his back, doctor's said he should have been in a wheelchair 12 years ago...

If a crossbow gets him into the woods more often (or anybody for that matter), I'm all for it.

10-15 years ago, people would get dirty looks for shooting a wheelie instead of a stickbow. The times, they are a changing!
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Crossbow..... has the word bow in it. AT, as was stated, has a crossbow section. Anything, and especially anything strongly worded in the negative on anything anti-bow is going to get looked at as anti hunting. Hunting is what keeps bow manufacturers in buisness. Advertising dollars from those manufacturers are what keep these website doors open.
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i has a friend who has shoulder problem and couldnt pull the bow and he bought a crossbow and result in couldnt pulled the crossbow with his lower back and shoulder so he sell and buy a crossbow that has a reel in to pull the string..

well i beleive in crossbow would be better for people who cant do pull the bow or whatever, i dont need a crossbow unless somethings happen to me then will be crossbow

175 or 200 lb draw crossbow vs 70 lb draw compound bow
Im all for handicap shooting a crossbow or anyone that is limited from pulling a bow.
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Amen Dan. I could have probably got a permit to use one last fall. Sure changed my view of crossbows. It's not like they're a 243 with a scope. Effective range is about the same as a regular compound.
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Crossbow..... has the word bow in it. AT, as was stated, has a crossbow section. Anything, and especially anything strongly worded in the negative on anything anti-bow is going to get looked at as anti hunting. Hunting is what keeps bow manufacturers in buisness. Advertising dollars are what keep these website doors open.
Money for states is what keeps hunting going. That is a qoute from one of my state most pro hunting represenatives. Its a fact!

Everthing acceptable is not good for hunting. Hunting in my state was better when I was 20 than today. Of course if you can afford leases its still good. But hunting lands have been over hunted for years and now they extend seasons to sale more tags. New lady governer has a bright idea to cobining conservation dept and wildlife dept. Less jobs for over worked staff of wildlife officers already.
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Amen Dan. I could have probably got a permit to use one last fall. Sure changed my view of crossbows. It's not like they're a 243 with a scope. Effective range is about the same as a regular compound.
Owner of Horton promoted crossbows and showed hitting an apple at 100yrds.

Next year it will be 150yrds as crossbow manufactuers fight for sales.

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"Money for states is what keeps hunting going"
No doubt they have to get they're share. They have expences to cover too.
But back on topic.
AT is a big site, probably takes big dollars to keep it going. They are'nt about to put up with anti-much of anything.
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Under controlled conditions, and editing, I can hit an apple at 100 yards with a rock.
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about what a person shoots. My beef is with AT, I had an administrator attack me, altered my profile, changed my avatar into some homosexual, and much more. I get banned for saying if I found out who was doing it to me, I felt like punching him. So I get banned for threating him.............
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"Money for states is what keeps hunting going"
No doubt they have to get they're share. They have expences to cover too.
But back on topic.
AT is a big site, probably takes big dollars to keep it going. They are'nt about to put up with anti-much of anything.
AT private owned and they make the rules. You either play by them of go away. Just that simple!
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My first post was deleted. Just told about my experiance with AT....
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I agree with you there. It's they're website.
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Well said!!...no shortage of posters who have crossed the line only to end up as cyber debree.

As far as the Xbows, ... wonder what the long bow guys were thinking when the first compounds came out....?.....Hhmmmm

On the other hand, the first deer I see harvested by a phaser will definitely raise an eye brow from me.....unless it's my phaser
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Long live the crossbow...
I agree Texas needs a few more hunters down there Ill be sending some your way from Ok. All the big bucks are in Texas.
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Send them on Dan... I seen an ad for a lease yesterday... 150 acres $8000 a year for 4 hunters...
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Send them on Dan... I seen an ad for a lease yesterday... 150 acres $8000 a year for 4 hunters...

Get those prices down it drivng way to many Texans north and I know Texans all have lots of money.
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Owner of Horton promoted crossbows and showed hitting an apple at 100yrds.

Next year it will be 150yrds as crossbow manufactuers fight for sales.

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They are showing accuracy of modern crossbows. My 14 year old twin boys both hit the 11 ring on a 3d target last year at 114 yards with compounds. That don't mean it OK to take a shot at an animal at that distance. We need to all stick together as hunters and not try to push what you don't like out of the group. That is as bad as the antis. I own a crossbow and will tell you there is no advantage as how far they can shoot. They have more drop than a compound bow. I hunt with a compound but used the crossbow to get my boy's in the field when they were 8 years old. They are now compound hunters. There is nothing wrong with crossbows. Some people just don't want see more people in the woods.
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They are showing accuracy of modern crossbows. My 14 year old twin boys both hit the 11 ring on a 3d target last year at 114 yards with compounds. That don't mean it OK to take a shot at an animal at that distance. We need to all stick together as hunters and not try to push what you don't like out of the group. That is as bad as the antis. I own a crossbow and will tell you there is no advantage as how far they can shoot. They have more drop than a compound bow. I hunt with a compound but used the crossbow to get my boy's in the field when they were 8 years old. They are now compound hunters. There is nothing wrong with crossbows. Some people just don't want see more people in the woods.
Kebees this is second time some one has refered me to anti. Feel thats darn dissrespecfull to call someone that because I know what a anti hunter is.

Because I have my views how crossbows should be intruduced into hunting is not being a anti hunter. Crossbows have never been not allowed in my state ever. You can use one if you were handicapped or use them during gun season. If you think crossbow manufactuers are not drivng the issue of crossbows because of profits gained you diffiantly not full informed. There allowed in my state now because of increased sales of deer tags. Public hunting land can only allow so many hunters and money is now the driving force in my state. I said give them there own season but dont allow them in archery. Its just my opionion and not that of a anti hunter.
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By the way I asked everyone I hunted with in Ohio before are law passed here including the bow shop owner how they felt about crossbows and 100% said they wished they werent allowed. Ignorance you might say bt I feel everyone is entitled to there opionions even on hunting. Kids can be taught to shoot a bow.
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QUOTE:::Those things aren't bows, and if the government allows them in the woods, it will be the ruination of archery and archery hunting.

That is what my grandfather told me about the compound bow almost 50 years ago. I am still waiting on a NEW argument against the crossbow.
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QUOTE:::Those things aren't bows, and if the government allows them in the woods, it will be the ruination of archery and archery hunting.

That is what my grandfather told me about the compound bow almost 50 years ago. I am still waiting on a NEW argument against the crossbow.
MOney and greed will eventually ruin hunting. States who continue to push money and greed before good solid wildlife management!
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THAT I CAN AGREE WITH, DB!!! Well said.
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Living in Ontario, where crossbows have been legal forever, I really think it makes no difference having them in our season. The guys that get skunked will do it with a crossbow or a compound. I do feel a major benefit is that it leaves fewer deer as coyote food. Many who will hunt regardless of being able to be accurate or not will hold a 6" group easier with a crossbow and keep the bolt in the lung area vs. 1' groups with a compound.

As for AT, I just stay away anymore. I check into the Canadian section once in a while and thats it.
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do u think if crossbow would be good with people who have a really long draw over 33" or more ? like above 6'7" or taller ?
a friend of mine who is 6'9" he has struggle find a long draw bow and he want shot a crossbow coz he isnt DA or handicap ? but in my mind he doesnt need crossbow..

he doesnt want buy a expensive bow but no choice for him.. well thanks god i'm not that long draw.. 30 ' prefect fit me w/o stright smack my arm..
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do u think if crossbow would be good with people who have a really long draw over 33" or more ? like above 6'7" or taller ?
a friend of mine who is 6'9" he has struggle find a long draw bow and he want shot a crossbow coz he isnt DA or handicap ? but in my mind he doesnt need crossbow..

he doesnt want buy a expensive bow but no choice for him.. well thanks god i'm not that long draw.. 30 ' prefect fit me w/o stright smack my arm..
Im sure it would be fine for him


Look for an older Conquest bow for him. Seems to be good choice for lang draw guys.
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And NOT my point. What I am saying is that every ANTI crossbow argument I hear today, is the exact same thing I heard 40 years ago from people arguing AGAINST the compound bow.
I didn't understand it then, I don't understand it now. It opens the door for more people to become involved in hunting. Which would you rather see in the woods, a crossbow hunter who is at least moderately proficient with that weapon? Or someone who picks up a compound 3 days before the season starts? I see it here all the time, rifle hunters who take 2 shots the day before the season starts, they own an old compound for archery season that gets dusted off a day or two before the season starts. If someone can be accurate with the crossbow, more power to him.
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Question Does the Crossbow kill any of North American animals effectively?
Answer is YES.

I do not see why it is so bad. Yes at first I thought it was not right but that is just because I am a die hard bowhunter, never hunt with a rifle. But why should a man not be able to use this weapon. Heck it is actually pretty cool, I was working on a show about 7 years ago that Horton was considering sponsoring we took a guy down to texas and I set up his crossbow for him and with something to set the crossbow on like shooting a rifle I was crazy accurate at 60 yards. I mean I could keep ever shot within a 5 spot 10 for sure and have an high x count. Will there be some guys taking long shots and wounding deer well yes but it will be no different than now with a bow and arrow in their hands. Heck as a kid growing up loving to shoot the bow hunting would get tough and I would see a deer at long range and say what the heck give it a shot. Nowadays I will not take those chances hope that I have smartened up a little bit. There is no way to control that mindset so we just have to deal with that, because if we use these reasons to get rid of crossbows the same argument could be used to get rid of my love the Compound bow.

Go Crossbows, Why not. I personally can not wait to take my 9 year old daughter out next year and let her try and take a deer with one. I think a crossbow could be the best tool for teaching young kids to shoot without being scared. They shoot with no extremely loud bang and no recoil to hurt them. My Girls will love it.
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Oh and SHAME ON ARCHERY TALK FOR LIMITING FREE SPEECH.
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Thank you Devine Shot! I started this as a thread about AT banning free speech, but somehow I became another anti-crossbow guy!
How'd that happen????
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I have no problem with someone handicap or elderly useing a crossbow in during bow season. The problem I have is everyone else during bow season.
They can have a season of there own like, after gun season or push gun season out a week.
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