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Old 03-08-2011, 01:06 PM   #1
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i'm get tired of see price hike up every few days around, and i think goverment are a oil addict like DRUGS , they will not quit hook with the oil/gas, what do you feel about they addict to OIL and the GAS..
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Oil companys have billions of $ invested, gas pipelines running underground nation wide, lobbists in hip pocket, they do not want to see us run on a corn based fuel.
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i dont care how much gas is as long as its cheap enough for me to be able to get to an from my farm, nothings gonna keep me from hunting lol i'll walk all the way ther if i have to.
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It's not the government, but the American people. We are the most wasteful people on the earth and very spoiled by having cheap oil over the last 40 years.

You may not be aware of this, but I travel all over the world and in many countries gas prices are nearly double what they are here in the states, but the average per capita income is about 1/3 what it is here. That's one reason they walk, or ride bicycles, or drive little cars or scooters. They don't commute 20 or 30 miles to work, but live close enough they can walk. And in doing so they are a healthier bunch for it.

I remember living in Greece in 1970 and gas there was $1.00/gal at that time while here in the states it was 25 cents. So considering the difference in the cost of living they were paying about 8 times what we were. So really, we don't have it so bad.

On top of that we need to leave our government out of it. They have done nothing but screw things up for the last 50 years. We need to do more ourselves, like learn to conserve. The more we ask our government officials to do is just giving up more of our rights and they are glad of it. This is how they keep us under their thumbs.
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just read MSNBC news, they just talk about world have plenty oil around but why dont we use our own oil instead use oversea, but 106 dollar a barrel are crazy and being caution ahead spring/summer travelers

here in town they are vote to cut the bus lines for people oh my god, more anger people who need bus to go work or anywhere as metro bus. guess wisconsin pretty screw up by SuCkOTT Walker


just get off phone with my mom, my wife and i are talk about get out of wisconsin and return to IOWA my home, and start do somethings like garden growing foods, hunt deer for meats and trying to start do work at home business like online somethings how it will save the money on gas..
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This guy Nostradamus says it will only be high till 2012, so I suppose we should buy all we can?
Nostradamus 2012 doomsday prediction. ... What about the biblical Prophecies of Armageddon- we have already had two world wars, What will the third one be over, GAS & OIL?
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I just live with it....cause it don't do any good to complain about it.....it's not going to change.My nephew complains every time i see him.....but he never complains about his 150-200 dollar cellphone bill from texting girls,buds,all kinds of goodies that his phone has... etc..........go figure.
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i dont care how much gas is as long as its cheap enough for me to be able to get to an from my farm, nothings gonna keep me from hunting lol i'll walk all the way ther if i have to.
Good thing elkslayer 4x5 and i have bicycles corse medical bills from having a crash may cost more than gas.
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Oil companys have billions of $ invested, gas pipelines running underground nation wide, lobbists in hip pocket, they do not want to see us run on a corn based fuel.

Let's leave the corn for food and feed, ethanol is hard on motors and it raises food prices. The energy it takes to make ethanol is almost a wash compaired to the energy it takes to make ethanol.

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It's not the government, but the American people. We are the most wasteful people on the earth and very spoiled by having cheap oil over the last 40 years.

You may not be aware of this, but I travel all over the world and in many countries gas prices are nearly double what they are here in the states, but the average per capita income is about 1/3 what it is here. That's one reason they walk, or ride bicycles, or drive little cars or scooters. They don't commute 20 or 30 miles to work, but live close enough they can walk. And in doing so they are a healthier bunch for it.

I remember living in Greece in 1970 and gas there was $1.00/gal at that time while here in the states it was 25 cents. So considering the difference in the cost of living they were paying about 8 times what we were. So really, we don't have it so bad.

On top of that we need to leave our government out of it. They have done nothing but screw things up for the last 50 years. We need to do more ourselves, like learn to conserve. The more we ask our government officials to do is just giving up more of our rights and they are glad of it. This is how they keep us under their thumbs.


I don't care what they pay for gas in Canada, England or some BF country in europe and I'm tired of that same old arguement about we don't pay our fair share......we pay our fair share everytime there's a problem or crisis in some crap hole country.

With the money and lives we lost in Iraq we should be getting free oil. We should be charging for every military man hour spent in that crap hole area. Or for that matter anytime the world calls on us to fix a problem we should be charging. What a way to fix our deficit in a hurry.
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Let's leave the corn for food and feed, ethanol is hard on motors and it raises food prices. The energy it takes to make ethanol is almost a wash compaired to the energy it takes to make ethanol.





I don't care what they pay for gas in Canada, England or some BF country in europe and I'm tired of that same old arguement about we don't pay our fair share......we pay our fair share everytime there's a problem or crisis in some crap hole country.

With the money and lives we lost in Iraq we should be getting free oil. We should be charging for every military man hour spent in that crap hole area. Or for that matter anytime the world calls on us to fix a problem we should be charging. What a way to fix our deficit in a hurry.
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Some may not care what gas prices are in other countries, but the fact remains that as developing countries do develop over time the demand for oil will increase in proportion. That may lead to oil going to the highest bidder. Who knows? It may lead to a world war. I hope not but it's always a posibility.

As for the lives lost in Irag and other countries? I grieve for the families also, but people forget that in WW II we lost as many troops at Omaha Beach in one day as we have in the war in Iraq to date, and today the French back the USA in virtually nothing. As a political group they are still as much a bunch of cowards as they were back then, bending over rather than fight for their freedoms.

OK, this has little to do with the price of oil. Sorry for that. The fact remains that the Saudis and others have oil. We use 25% of all the oil produced worldwide. We want it. We have to pay for it. Instead of bitching about it we need to take action and the best action is to change the way we live. We sure can't leave all the decisions to our politicians and military.
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Or we could lift the drill ban, cut some red tape and get some refineries up and running and become alittle more oil independent. Flip the middle east the bird and tell them to take a hike and watch the price drop when they found out we don't need to play there stupid games no more.

Instead of playing the world policeman for free we need to be the world missionarys and start charging the world for moving those aircraft carriers and bombs.
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Nuke all the Middleeastern cities, run the survivors back into the desert leaving them only with tents and camels. Move all the able bodied prisoners and make them work off there sentences in the radio active oil fields.
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Or we could lift the drill ban, cut some red tape and get some refineries up and running and become alittle more oil independent. Flip the middle east the bird and tell them to take a hike and watch the price drop when they found out we don't need to play there stupid games no more.

Instead of playing the world policeman for free we need to be the world missionarys and start charging the world for moving those aircraft carriers and bombs.
Man, you guys are a mean bunch!!! LOL. I know the US has it's own oil reserves and areas to drill and it's cetainly another choice. However, the main reason I talk about learning to conserve it that I take a longer look into the future and not just MY immediate needs. I don't think anybody can estimate with any accuracy how much oil there really is, but I also think that it isn't gong to last forever. We're not about to run out during our lfetimes, but what about future generations? Or don't we care about them either?

I do concur with the comments about military spending, though. We go too far playing world cops. As for nuking all the arabs? Sorry, but like it or not we don't happen to own the world. Let's be real about it.
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If we care about future generation we will take care of this problem here and now and cease being punked out by the oil cartels. These small countries are controlling our economy through oil it's time to take control back.



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other things i have hear about is US, France and British has option to sent militray to libia for OIL so libia leader say will battle westren forces, mean they enjoy the game and keep oil price go up and higher like 150 to 250 a barrel mean gas cost will be like 8 to 10 dollar a gal ?

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thats what cruise missles are for, surely than can get a few rebel diaper heads who speak english with a cell phone and gps.Just park a carrier with several cruise missle laded destroyers a coupla hundred miles north in the Med and have Ahmad phone in where to place some of those missles where they would do the most good.
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just wait 2 or 3 yrs from now.........todays gas prices will seem low.
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Seems like when one of those diaper heads burps or farts the news tells us that prices will go up. What happens? The price goes up because the people are expecting it, so the gas companies are making billions. The oil that the US buys today will not be sold as gas for a few weeks, so why the sudden jump?
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The thing that gets to me outside of the price of course. Is, they raise the price on the gas that is already in the tanks at the store. They have already paid for that gas at a certain price. They are supposed to charge us accordingly. But what do they do? Charge more for what they already have paid for and is in the ground.
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The thing that gets to me outside of the price of course. Is, they raise the price on the gas that is already in the tanks at the store. They have already paid for that gas at a certain price. They are supposed to charge us accordingly. But what do they do? Charge more for what they already have paid for and is in the ground.
Now this I do have to agree with.
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If the President can go to a private company like Chevrolet and fire their CEO because they're going broke,why can't he go to the oil company's and say you CAN'T have a pump price higher that $2.25?
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Oil companys have billions of $ invested, gas pipelines running underground nation wide, lobbists in hip pocket, they do not want to see us run on a corn based fuel.
I sure wish they would stop the use of corn for making it into gas. Sure is driving up the cost of our food supply.

Lets just get them drilling offshore and all over the USA.

We also need the OIL firms to get one or more gas refinery. None been made since WWII.

Were is the USA govt in setting policy to correct these problems. Need both the right and left to get in line to make these changes made.
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If the President can go to a private company like Chevrolet and fire their CEO because they're going broke,why can't he go to the oil company's and say you CAN'T have a pump price higher that $2.25?

You need to read up on the principles of supply and demand.

And GM is no longer a private company......it's goverment owned.
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You need to read up on the principles of supply and demand.

And GM is no longer a private company......it's goverment owned.
And this is totally wrong. The governement has no business sticking it's nose into our economy. We finished fighting a cold war for some 50+ years with a country (USSR) that took over everything and completely stifled economic growth. That and their military spending drove them to the brink of bankruptsy. The people had no freedoms.

Now you guys say that the government should control everything. Sound like the former USSR? And look where our economy is going. We are near a crisis with our foreign and personal debt in the country. Our government sells bonds to cover their excess spending, and most of it is bought by foreign countries. They own us, lock stock, and barrel. If the Chinese would ever call up the bonds they have we would be bankrupt as a country, totally. It would cause a depression that we'd never live through economically.

You think the government should help out or control prices? When the hell have our government officials ever done anything right? Why do you think we're in the mess we're in? Because we gave up the responsibilty of fixing things and passed it on to them.
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With what just happened in Japan........it will effect us at the pump sooner or later.......among other things.Why should Gov/state do anything about gas prices......taxpayers pay for thier gas.
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when somethings that happen around the country or USA the oil and gas price go up, and why do US plan to assaintace japan's aftershock ? we pay tax to help them, and how about other country help pay us if we have disaster ?

look like the american fear of counties and want to make friends so join to help, why dont have china help japan ? coz it ASIA country ?? CHINA have $$ to do anything like america have $$ for our own need ??
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I don't care what they pay for gas in Canada, England or some BF country in europe and I'm tired of that same old arguement about we don't pay our fair share......we pay our fair share everytime there's a problem or crisis in some crap hole country.

With the money and lives we lost in Iraq we should be getting free oil. We should be charging for every military man hour spent in that crap hole area. Or for that matter anytime the world calls on us to fix a problem we should be charging. What a way to fix our deficit in a hurry.
to that hole statement! if more people like me and you would stand up to the politicians then they would eventually listen to us.
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You are all right, but your sort of looking under the wrong rug.
As far as how do we fix this situation in the short term:
Make cars and trucks that run on Natural Gas! Natural gas is the most abundant gas in the world and would work perfectly for this purpose. You will start to see this in the near future if we can get some laws changed. Just Google Natural gas abundance and it will blow you away. Oil companies have been storing it underground for decades in salt domes in Texas. Some of these salt domes are the size of Rhode Island. They store it because there is no market for it and its an afterthought of producing oil. We use about 5% of the natural gas that we can produce in the USA each year in home heating. Back in the late 70ís, lots of people in rural Ne. where I grew up were converting their vehicles to propane burners and their vehicles ran well on it. A little power loss, but 20lbs would take you about 200 miles. That was a simple conversion kit. What happened to that technology?? OIL COMPANIES DONíT GET RICH PRODUCING IT SO THEY SHOVED IT UNDER OUR RUG. Itís the same with natural gas.
Our politicians are bought off every time they try to do something different in running an internal combustion engine, thatís why the emphasis has been put on electric cars. {There is a waste of time in my opinion}
Until big oil stops running our country by ear marking bills, we will not fix the real problem. When you have a company like Exxon that net billions each year and can do what ever they want with Americas politics ďWe the peopleĒ will not be allowed to win.
Yes, there is thousands of trillions of barrels of oil in the US, but it has been protected by liberals.
How? Oil companies paid Bob Dole millions to do it in the Clinton administration. Big oil companies were forced out of America by the Carter administration because of caps on oil drilling to save a Caribou in AK. and for fear of an oil spill off the coast of California.
There is more oil in ND, MT, SD and southern Canada {the Bakken Formation} then there is in Iran. There is more oil in AK then there is in Libya.
There is as much oil off the coast of CA. as there is in Saudi Arabia.
Big oil companies have put all their equipment in the Middle East because its cheaper to drill there because they donít have to beg for a permit to get it done then move their equipment and man power back here to do it. They are not allowed to drill by the current administration by design. Its easier and therefore cheaper to do it over seas.
The only way we could possibly win this in the short term is with Natural Gas. But it wont happen because its counter productive for Big Oil Profits. The blame is on Liberals. No where else. Change American politics, then there is no oil crises.
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Guys I just googled one thing, The Bakkon. Just look at this ch#*. If we used cars and trucks that ran on Natural gas {a byproduct of oil production} we would be oil independant for hundreds of years. See below.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakken.asp
We are a Mega Wealthy oil rich country ran by big oil. Now go beat your red head ageanst that little brick wall.
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after japan's disaster but now what problem they have is nuclear plant and the radioactive leak in air and possible to sent the radiation clouds, since world war 2, plus other is option to sent militray to libia to stop killing the humans by gadhifi forces.

will it affect US job markets ? as the job is growing in US..
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well its just hit $10.44 a gallon over here in the UK .
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damn, whats a fish n chips delivery driver to do? Why dont you limey's run a coupla cruise missles up Ghadafi's Cadberry highway? Get with the french and use both brand missles.


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well its just hit $10.44 a gallon over here in the UK .


damn, 10.44 a gallon of fuel, cant afford to fill full on 20 gal tank iikely 200 dollar for 1 tank ..
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just heard that oil went down yesterday, the lower gas price should be here today, RIGHT.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:13 PM   #36
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just heard that oil went down yesterday, the lower gas price should be here today, RIGHT.
Oil's down another $2.57 as of right now.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:49 PM   #37
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Oil's down another $2.57 as of right now.
Seen that yesterday.........gas at the pumps went up today.
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Old 03-16-2011, 05:39 PM   #38
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damn, 10.44 a gallon of fuel, cant afford to fill full on 20 gal tank iikely 200 dollar for 1 tank ..
did y'all know what all the strife was in Egypt for
the gas pricies went so high that they could'nt eat and drive
and now thet are going for a new gov and most likely a socialist one
seems we have a same trend here
boy's beware for the prez is proposing to do an excetutive(dictaor) order on our guns
if they got your guns they got you
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notice the oil price drop and the gas price stay the price and it dont drop or up but i beleive dirt job they got is when oil go up then the gas go up, when oil drop and gas stay and it dont ever drop few cents nothings it has been 3.57 per gal for 2 week ..
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:53 PM   #40
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Hey guys,
Did anyone have a comment on my post for natural gas as an answer to fueling our cars and trucks?
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