Alphaelite vs. the New Carbon Matrix

OrthoPT · 03-16-2011, 10:04 AM

Which of these bows from a design point of view and shooting, with the carbon risor vs. a shoot through risor which is more accurate.

Gator eye · 03-17-2011, 07:13 AM

Probably depends on how good the Indian is?

For me I like the longer ATA, I always add weight so weight isn't a issue.
Both are built with a stiff riser in mind.

I haven't shot enough carbon bows to really know how they shoot. Speed seems to be there and guys that have em love em.

I just got my AlphaElite set up and so far I'm liking it, getting good speed 301fps at 28.25 draw set at 64 pounds fatboy weightin 355 grains(I think). Solid backwall, the draw isn't harsh but it's long. Builds fast and stays there to the end. Little to much let off in my opinion but I just turned the draw weight up to get closer to my hold weight, now that I'm getting use to the draw I might even knotch up the draw weight alittle more.
With shorter ATA, 36 inch, It is taking alittle work on the stabilzer set up to get a good solid hold on this bow. Alot of that might be Ive spent most of the year shooting a bow with a 41 inch ATA so the string angle and the feel felt strange to me but after shoot it for a week it;s starting to feel more stable to me. Over all it's going to make a greaT 3D bow that would feel right at home in the tree stand too.

Brown Hornet · 03-17-2011, 09:06 AM

Neither.......set them up correctly and make the shot and they are both going to drop the arrow in the same hole.

OrthoPT · 03-17-2011, 10:04 AM

Is the carbon risor or the elite risor stiffer. If so wouldnt the stiffer risor from a manufacturing point of view be inherently more accurate. So Ok set up yada yada yeah I know and it will shoot. Im talking more from just a pure pull it off the assembly line set them up the same and shoot. Which bow would have greater success. The ATA is only an inch difference so string angle is no really an issue.

Gator eye · 03-17-2011, 12:36 PM

I betting both riser are stiff enough that you'll never know the difference, which puts us back at the Indian pulling the string.

OrthoPT · 03-17-2011, 03:28 PM

Ok thats what I was wondering, is there a difference in the risor construction between the 2 and if so which one has the potential to be more accurate.

Compound Comedian · 03-17-2011, 05:11 PM

A shoot thru riser is more of hinderance than a blessing in my opinion.

Radar · 03-17-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Compound Comedian

A shoot thru riser is more of hinderance than a blessing in my opinion.

Not sure how this could be! but
different strokes for different folks, like you said its your opinion. I have shot both the carbon bows and have a ProElite with the shoot thru riser cant personally tell the difference two completely different monsters. Now I can see where your coming from with the alpha and the carbon matrix cause there alot closer in specs. I havent personally shot an alpha elite but if it holds like my AM35 I am sure I would love it

Brown Hornet · 03-17-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Compound Comedian

A shoot thru riser is more of hinderance than a blessing in my opinion.

How so? You load the arrow through the riser. It's only a hinderance for those that think they have to lay the bow sideways to load an arrow or snap the arrow on sideways and then swing it over to the rest to load an arrow.

Sagittarius · 03-20-2011, 11:57 PM

Rumors are, there will be an Elite carbon riser in 2012.

Brown Hornet · 03-21-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sagittarius

Rumors are, there will be an Elite carbon riser in 2012.

They make some good stuff....I would probably have bought an Elite Pure if they would make 65% letoff cams. Loved that bow.

Brian H · 03-23-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brown Hornet

They make some good stuff....I would probably have bought an Elite Pure if they would make 65% letoff cams. Loved that bow.

I think he is talking about a carbon shoot through elite type riser.
Not the brand Elite.:

OrthoPT · 03-23-2011, 10:18 AM

Brian I was looking at the difference, if any , between the risors of the elite bows, shoot through, and the carbon risors of the carbon matrix plus. I have a new carbon matrix coming, and I am selling a bow to either buy another matrix or an elite either alpha elite, or the vantage elite. I will shoot them for 3d, and intermittent FITA tournaments.

Brian H · 03-23-2011, 04:32 PM

I know, I was referring to Brown Hornets post. I hate to think how
much a shoot through carbon riser would cost, if it's even possible.

Gator eye · 03-24-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian H

I know, I was referring to Brown Hornets post. I hate to think how
much a shoot through carbon riser would cost, if it's even possible.

just glue another carbon bar around the handle and add 300 bucks to the price.

BUNNYMAN · 03-24-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gator eye

just glue another carbon bar around the handle and add 300 bucks to the price.

Sad, but true...