08-19-2011, 08:27 PM
|
#1
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Creek, NY
Posts: 118
|
Anyone shoot 4 blazers in a 4 vein pattern?
I was just curious if anyone does and if I should. +/-
Matt
__________________
Z7 Extreme, Ripcord, TR Alfa V5, Smooth Stability and G5 Montecs
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 12:08 AM
|
#2
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: gerald,mo
Posts: 204
|
I thought about it myself but not sure what the advantage would be. Alittle curious about this myself. Would it help with broadheads or is this a target set up only? Saw a guy shooting that set up at an ASA shoot. His arrows always seemed to fly straight and smooth.
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 08:41 AM
|
#3
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 111
|
I have done it before with 4 mini blazers with a 1 degree offset. It steers broadhead really well.
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 08:47 AM
|
#4
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Creek, NY
Posts: 118
|
I thimk I am going to try it some arrows I need to refletch and see how it goes.
__________________
Z7 Extreme, Ripcord, TR Alfa V5, Smooth Stability and G5 Montecs
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 09:07 AM
|
#5
|
|
Pearson Pro Staff
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: central ohio
Posts: 102
|
4 fletch works really well with broadheads
---
- KW
__________________
2010 Pearson Pro Staff www.archeryprostaff.com
2010 Legend, Advantage
bohning shooting staff
vapor trail staff
tru ball staff, specialty archery staff
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 09:10 AM
|
#6
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2
|
blazers are the worst fletchings
Their a complete wast of money. There's a similar vane by vanetec and it's more durable and it actually stays on the arrow. I use to only use quick spins but once I tried vanetec vanes I was sold.
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 09:13 AM
|
#7
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2
|
steering broadheads?¿
If you paper tune your bow it wont matter what vanes you use.
|
|
|
08-20-2011, 12:25 PM
|
#8
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 455
|
Ive even seen knuckleheads use 6 vanes. 4 vanes is 33% more work to build, 33% more cost and more maintainence. makes no sense
__________________
Archerytalk, Helping Sponsors fleece novice Archers since 2001.
|
|
|
08-21-2011, 08:49 PM
|
#9
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 21
|
I have used 4 fletched arrows for hunting for years. Works real well with a 4 blade Muzzy.
|
|
|
08-21-2011, 09:33 PM
|
#10
|
|
Bisquit.......
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hoosierville
Posts: 13,881
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bthebowhunter
Their a complete wast of money. There's a similar vane by vanetec and it's more durable and it actually stays on the arrow. I use to only use quick spins but once I tried vanetec vanes I was sold.
|
Thats funny.....I been using them for over 6 years now and have had no problems at all. Maybe I'm just lucky
__________________
"HONDA"
|
|
|
08-22-2011, 10:42 AM
|
#11
|
|
EastOutfitters
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lane County, Oregon
Posts: 286
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bthebowhunter
Their a complete wast of money. There's a similar vane by vanetec and it's more durable and it actually stays on the arrow. I use to only use quick spins but once I tried vanetec vanes I was sold.
|
The extra vane will actually help guide the arrow, BUT, WILL add extra drag, and thereby slow your arrow down, If you have more than enough speed, go for it, and
Quote:
Originally Posted by Compound Comedian
4 vanes is 33% more work to build, 33% more cost
|
If you feel that the 33% extra will help you,then by all means , go for it.
__________________
"Skin that one, and I'll get ya another"
2 06 Martin Slayers, 63 & 55#s Nitrous C X QuikTune 3000s and HHA OL 5519s on both.
04 Martin Cougar Elite Nitrous C X Quiktune 1000
|
|
|
08-22-2011, 04:53 PM
|
#12
|
|
Foam Killer
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 644
|
ive done it on target arrows only 2 in and X2 and minis~ i didnt really see much improvement but that was with glue in tips and x~cutters<
but i say try it isnt that 1/2 the fun of making your own stuff
__________________
Mathews Ovation 60 lbs 29 Dl- Ranger custom Strings
HHA 5500 ol - Trophy Taker shakey hunter-
Tru Ball pro diamond- Gold Tip X-cutters= awsome shootin'
(new)FBSA Member
|
|
|
08-23-2011, 09:10 PM
|
#13
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South East Massachusetts
Posts: 2,201
|
4 fletch will stabilize quicker than 3 if their size is equal. The only drawback is increased drag, which is what gave you that quicker stabilization in the first place. The results are pretty predictable.
To me the advantage is being able to use a smaller fletch in a 4 pattern that equals the performance of a 3 fletch of longer lenth. A 4 fletch is also more user friendly if you have cable clearance issues. That X pattern takes up less room than a 3 fletch.
To answere the OP,yes I've used Blazers in a 4 fletch pattern, but I found I like 2.5" feathers in that 4 fletch pattern better. Less weight, and feathers give should you muff the release. I'd rather 4 X2's or 4 mini's than the full size regular 2" blazers if you don't like feathers.
__________________
FBSA Member
|
|
|
09-06-2011, 08:48 AM
|
#14
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 69
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by red44
4 fletch will stabilize quicker than 3 if their size is equal. The only drawback is increased drag, which is what gave you that quicker stabilization in the first place. The results are pretty predictable.
To me the advantage is being able to use a smaller fletch in a 4 pattern that equals the performance of a 3 fletch of longer lenth. A 4 fletch is also more user friendly if you have cable clearance issues. That X pattern takes up less room than a 3 fletch.
To answere the OP,yes I've used Blazers in a 4 fletch pattern, but I found I like 2.5" feathers in that 4 fletch pattern better. Less weight, and feathers give should you muff the release. I'd rather 4 X2's or 4 mini's than the full size regular 2" blazers if you don't like feathers.
|
I would take Red's advice, one aspect with 4 Blazers are said to improve accuracy in windy conditions, such as crosswinds at certain ranges.
|
|
|
09-06-2011, 07:33 PM
|
#15
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South East Massachusetts
Posts: 2,201
|
I'm not saying 4 blazers are needed. A 4 fletch pattern in equal lenth with 3 fletch will obviously stabalize faster. Again, the beauty of 4 fletch is being able to use smaller fletching, and if you have a clearance issue, X pattern clears quicker. That's about it. A 4 fletch 3" should do what a 3 fletch 4" fletch does. It's all about resistance and clearance. Shoot what suites you needs.
4x3 or 3x4 is equal.
__________________
FBSA Member
|
|
|
09-08-2011, 07:22 AM
|
#16
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 69
|
While many feel they need a 4 fletch, I think it is too complicated to set up, though Jo Jo Jan jigs can accomplish 4 fletch set ups, if your current 3 fletch works for you, why change it?
|
|
|
09-08-2011, 08:00 AM
|
#17
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In the horn of Michigan
Posts: 7,113
|
I think if you properly tune your bow there is no advantage in using 4 vanes.
__________________
A man is as unhappy as he has convinced himself he is.
Enjoy 
|
|
|
09-09-2011, 08:48 AM
|
#18
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 69
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator eye
I think if you properly tune your bow there is no advantage in using 4 vanes.
|
You have my vote Gator!
__________________
Bohning Archery-Pro Field Staff
Hoyt ProElite 3000 (Fita) Hoyt ProElite 2000 (3D), Martin Cougar Magnum (Fingers), ChekMate Recurve (Traditional) Trophy Ridge Sights, Axcel Sights, Bernardini and Tru Ball Release, Bohning Blazers, X-Shield Cut Vanes, Tru-Flight -Gateway Feathers, Hephaestus Stabilisers
|
|
|
09-09-2011, 11:00 PM
|
#19
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South East Massachusetts
Posts: 2,201
|
4 fletch is no harder to set up than 3 fletch Barry, so long as your jig can do a 4 fletch. No biggie.
The advantage is if you have a clearance issue. That's it.
Do you need it? One never knows untill they actually try it and compare.
__________________
FBSA Member
|
|
|
09-10-2011, 06:45 AM
|
#20
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 69
|
Thanks Red44
__________________
Bohning Archery-Pro Field Staff
Hoyt ProElite 3000 (Fita) Hoyt ProElite 2000 (3D), Martin Cougar Magnum (Fingers), ChekMate Recurve (Traditional) Trophy Ridge Sights, Axcel Sights, Bernardini and Tru Ball Release, Bohning Blazers, X-Shield Cut Vanes, Tru-Flight -Gateway Feathers, Hephaestus Stabilisers
|
|
|
09-10-2011, 11:49 PM
|
#21
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 234
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Compound Comedian
Ive even seen knuckleheads use 6 vanes.
|
You may have to invent an adjective to describe me....I've done 8!!!
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:10 PM.
|