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Old 06-03-2007, 02:24 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I'm new to archery and bowyering and need some help.

Yesterday, I broke off a long(6' 6") branch from a pine tree. I have heard that pines are not bow woods but I'm too stubborn to listen. I peeled it up and took off all the little braches and green pine needles. I see several tiny knots but its a first time bow so anything goes. I took it home that same day and cut out the belly and did some rough- semi detailed tillering and got the ends very roughtly cut out. Now, I have it tightly tied belly-in on a metal rod waiting for it to dry. The ends have seran wrap tightly rubber-banded over them. The back of the bow was not touched at all besides the removeal of the bark. It is very smooth and kinda slippery. No sap.

How did I do? Will pine even work? Any steps missed?

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Old 06-03-2007, 07:20 PM   #2
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Default Pine!

Ive never tried pine but i think it might be to soft a wood to make a bow out of.
I made one out of cedar & the bow pulled 80lbs.
I was just playing around when i was younger,made a pretty good shooter!
Tell us how it go's and post some pic's when it's done.
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Welcome........

I don't know how you'll make out...Pine is not a normal bow material...But keep us posted...and please don't forget pics...
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So far its drying succesfully with no explosions thus far.
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My nephew uses pine (all he has available) but it's not very durable, well it's either the wood or him. It does seem to stress fracture a lot. But he may be pulling it way past what it's capable of.

Please post pics if you can!!!
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My nephew uses pine (all he has available) but it's not very durable, well it's either the wood or him. It does seem to stress fracture a lot. But he may be pulling it way past what it's capable of.

Please post pics if you can!!!
No...I think it's the material...usueally a bow has to have a tighter grain than pine...It's alittle soft...
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What I find amazing...my nephew is 15 and has been building his own bows for 2-3 years. He is self-taught and does ok. His mom doesn't get involved with him at all (he spends most of the year with Grandma).

Anyway, he is pretty accurate even with running shots. But they are moving to the city and that will end his hobby. She has told him no more bows. I suggested that they find an archery club in the city but my sister (his mom) doesn't really like the idea (she is anti-weapon of any kind). Poor kid!

I do hope he keeps it up, though.
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What I find amazing...my nephew is 15 and has been building his own bows for 2-3 years. He is self-taught and does ok. His mom doesn't get involved with him at all (he spends most of the year with Grandma).

Anyway, he is pretty accurate even with running shots. But they are moving to the city and that will end his hobby. She has told him no more bows. I suggested that they find an archery club in the city but my sister (his mom) doesn't really like the idea (she is anti-weapon of any kind). Poor kid!

I do hope he keeps it up, though.
That's too bad...Hopefully he can keep doing it...
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Here are some pics. Its so long, its really hard to get some decent pics in, so I got what I could.



The whole 6' + stave.
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The thicker end with seran wrap.
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A view of the back/belly of the bow.
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The smaller end, likely to be cut off later, with seran wrap.
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Under the handle region, where it is a bit thicker, in comparison to my thumb.
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Here are some pics. Its so long, its really hard to get some decent pics in, so I got what I could.



The whole 6' + stave.
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The thicker end with seran wrap.
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A view of the back/belly of the bow.
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The smaller end, likely to be cut off later, with seran wrap.
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My post is not showing up in the thread after 10 minutes, so i will try again below.
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Here are some pics. Its so long, its really hard to get some decent pics in, so I got what I could.



The whole 6' + stave.
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The thicker end with seran wrap.
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A view of the back/belly of the bow.
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The smaller end, likely to be cut off later, with seran wrap.
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Looks like a good start!
If this dosnt work,see if you can find a good small cedar tree!
You will be pleased. but ya have to keep cuttin it down smaller to acheive your pull wt.
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Any other woods you know of that will work for a bow and are available in Michigan?

i don't think I'll find a Cedar over here. lol
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Any other woods you know of that will work for a bow and are available in Michigan?

i don't think I'll find a Cedar over here. lol
Either cedar which you should be able to find!
Or ive seen people use maple,which im sure is in michigan!
Most recurves are made with maple laminent's!
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What do you seal and laminate the bow with?

my friend has a recurve bow(like 8 of them) and they are glass-powered...which is when they are thin and wide-limed and have fiber glass over them?

Im jealous.
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What do you seal and laminate the bow with?

my friend has a recurve bow(like 8 of them) and they are glass-powered...which is when they are thin and wide-limed and have fiber glass over them?

Im jealous.
Go to 3 rivers archery.com
This place will tell you & sell you all you need to know!
Im not a bow builder but if i were this place has it all for triditional shooters!
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Go to 3 rivers archery.com
This place will tell you & sell you all you need to know!
Im not a bow builder but if i were this place has it all for triditional shooters!
Hawthorne is a very good wood. out west it is called Osage
It was a favorite with tha Indians
Help a friend cut a tree and bust out some sticks for bows. Tha wood is a reddish yellar(Yellow)

Very light and hardy.
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Hickory is the old standard in english bows

Check out this site:

http://archerysociety.org/BowMakingTradA.html
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:49 PM   #22
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Hey...Don't despare...poop happens...
You were off to a decent start, you just need to find the proper wood...try something alittle more dense.
elm, hicory, cedar, ewe, even maple...
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What again can be found in michigan and is a good bow materiel?

Do you reccomend getting a bow stave off Ebay?
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What I find amazing...my nephew is 15 and has been building his own bows for 2-3 years. He is self-taught and does ok. His mom doesn't get involved with him at all (he spends most of the year with Grandma).

Anyway, he is pretty accurate even with running shots. But they are moving to the city and that will end his hobby. She has told him no more bows. I suggested that they find an archery club in the city but my sister (his mom) doesn't really like the idea (she is anti-weapon of any kind). Poor kid!

I do hope he keeps it up, though.
Keep him interested unc. Fewmore years and it should be up to him.
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