Nocturnal Bucks

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 09:49 AM

The golden question, how do you draw out nocturnal bucks? Mock scrapes seem to work, but the big guys never bite on them. Mabey decoys are the next step!

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tnts79

The golden question, how do you draw out nocturnal bucks? Mock scrapes seem to work, but the big guys never bite on them. Mabey decoys are the next step!

This has been a fool proof method for me....I always take a doe during the Rut(gun season) and i always carry a couple of those small eye drop bottles(kind that's got the little dropper that sucks it up out of the bottle) and when feild dressing her i fill the bottles with her urine.....I've had bucks come straight to this......nothing works better than the real thing...jmo

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 10:21 AM

How do you do that?

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tnts79

How do you do that?

whatcha mean.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 10:26 AM

How do you get the urine? Remove the bladder then drain the contents into your jar? Shot 2 does never thought to keep the urine

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tnts79

How do you get the urine? Remove the bladder then drain the contents into your jar? Shot 2 does never thought to keep the urine

Yep....just be careful not to contaminate(sp) it with other body fluids.Sometimes there's not much in there....but most the time there is.Make sure that the bottle/dropper is verry clean...i keep rinseing mine in hot tap water till i feel that it is.I use those small cotton ball's to put it on and when i'm done hunting i put it all back into a small ziploc baggie and put it in the refrig when i get home....or you can cut off her back scent glands and use them instead of the CB's...just keep everything cool as possible.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 10:41 AM

I guess I will have to try that next time I let the air out of a doe. Thanks for the tip!

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tnts79

I guess I will have to try that next time I let the air out of a doe. Thanks for the tip!

GL....i've always had good luck after the gun season(we can't bow hunt here during gun season)when the bucks are still looking for hot does.Don't have a lot of big bucks where i hunt....so any that comes to it works for me....Doe's will come to it also.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 10:51 AM

Wish I would have though about that before buying code blue for $8-$10 for 1.5 ounces!

Cameron · 11-06-2007, 10:54 AM

Rattling antlers near their bedroom has worked for me.

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 11:08 AM

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Wish I would have though about that before buying code blue for $8-$10 for 1.5 ounces!

I've always been leery of that store bought stuff...don't waste my money on it and i'm not saying it won't work.....but a lot of machines come into contact with that stuff...new plastic bottles smell like plastic....stuff is made in factories and come's in to contact with worker's...etc...list of things can go on....has to be some kind of additive in it to preserve shelf life.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 11:15 AM

I think some rattling is in order, and the next doe I shoot will get drained! The place is tore up with sign but its mostly nightime activity, hunting pressure on the neighboring ground is ridiculous!

Take a look at the trail cam pics thread, had a little go round with CSS,

anyway thanks for the tips.

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tnts79

I think some rattling is in order, and the next doe I shoot will get drained! The place is tore up with sign but its mostly nightime activity, hunting pressure on the neighboring ground is ridiculous!

Take a look at the trail cam pics thread, had a little go round with CSS,

anyway thanks for the tips.

Not to change the topic...but how is it illegel to hunt where there's salt....never heard of salt being concidered bait.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 12:22 PM

Salt licks or mineral licks are considered baiting in Illinois. But you can hunt over standing crops all season long and food plots???? I think it was done to prevent the spread of diseases like CWD.

bullfiddle · 11-06-2007, 12:27 PM

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Salt licks or mineral licks are considered baiting in Illinois. But you can hunt over standing crops all season long and food plots???? I think it was done to prevent the spread of diseases like CWD.

The law is the same in Indiana.

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 12:31 PM

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The law is the same in Indiana.

Man....i'm glad i live in Mo. they just leave us alone and let us hunt.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 12:34 PM

It's Illinois for ya! Bunch of tree huggers in office.

I would rather have some kind of antler restriction, like 3 on a side or something like that, Illinois would have a lot more bruisers!

bullfiddle · 11-06-2007, 12:38 PM

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It's Illinois for ya! Bunch of tree huggers in office.

I would rather have some kind of antler restriction, like 3 on a side or something like that, Illinois would have a lot more bruisers!

Indiana is 3" on one side but they only allow one buck pre hunter through all seasons. The one buck rule has increased the quality and quantity of bucks in my area. That's my take on it.

STRO · 11-06-2007, 12:39 PM

Try to get clost to their bedroom and hit the doe in estrus can call. I don't know how many bucks have come in to that call. Big ones on the other hand, not many, but it's worth a try.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 12:50 PM

Illinois has a two buck per year rule in place. If it were down to one that would greatly improve the #/quality of bucks! Too many horn hunters out there, letting does walk instead of deflating them. First 3 weeks of the season is doe time, then I hold off for pretty much most of november if the weather is right for bucks, then in the late season its game on for does again. I would like to shoot at least 2 more does and mabey a buck if I see one big enough....130+ on public ground, 140-150+ on private ground. Everything else walks.

IChim2 · 11-06-2007, 01:05 PM

i was kinda in the favor of earn a buck...had to tag a doe first...maybe i'm wrong on that one...we have a lot of doe's.

tnts79 · 11-06-2007, 01:08 PM

Some public places are like that, I generally always shoot a doe first during the season anyway, if luck is on my side! Good system to have in place.

tenzero1 · 11-06-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IChim2

This has been a fool proof method for me....I always take a doe during the Rut(gun season) and i always carry a couple of those small eye drop bottles(kind that's got the little dropper that sucks it up out of the bottle) and when feild dressing her i fill the bottles with her urine.....I've had bucks come straight to this......nothing works better than the real thing...jmo

Thats a great idea

BuckeyeRed · 11-06-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IChim2

Yep....just be careful not to contaminate(sp) it with other body fluids.Sometimes there's not much in there....but most the time there is.Make sure that the bottle/dropper is verry clean...i keep rinseing mine in hot tap water till i feel that it is.I use those small cotton ball's to put it on and when i'm done hunting i put it all back into a small ziploc baggie and put it in the refrig when i get home....or you can cut off her back scent glands and use them instead of the CB's...just keep everything cool as possible.

This maybe one of the greatest ideas I will never try.

kbohunt · 11-06-2007, 06:21 PM

Pure doe urine ( if i can get it)
Go in the buck's bedroom and bust him in the dark, make a mock scrap,climb a tree real high atleast 20-30ft, wait until 9am and Rattle and grunt slow and low every 10minutes and within 1 hour get very loud with the grunts and rattles.
If he's gonna come back to his bed he will.
Ive taken a 20inch 9pt and a 17inch 8pt like this.
They are both on my wall and were very preasured Nocturnal bucks.