2009 Mathews

BuckeyeRed · 11-17-2008, 12:52 AM

The Reezen 7.0 is calling my name!! Though not super impressed w/ the looks or specs of the Monster XLR8 but I'll wait to judge when they arrive in shops.

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 06:09 AM

looking at the Hyperlite........MSRP less than 400 maybe??

STRO · 11-17-2008, 06:20 AM

I will be honest, I was anxious to see what mathews was coming out with. I have a hard time shooting a bow with less then 35 inch axle to axle, because I my draw is 30 inches. These new bows don't have that, and such a short brace height.

Maybe I need to go shoot one, just to see, I won't know until I try.

Daniel Boone · 11-17-2008, 06:28 AM

Mathews will sale many of these bows. Speed bows are in demand.

Prices should be interesting.
DB

Quess the one cam catch us if you can slogan is out the door.

Seems Mathews is catching others with there two cam bows. Honestly never thought I would see a two cam Mathews.

BuckeyeRed · 11-17-2008, 07:35 AM

Hey Chris, which demo model are you receiving?

Pinwheel1969 · 11-17-2008, 07:51 AM

Wow!! Those are nice... Cams look just like HF Cams. I wanna shoot one to see what 5" brace is like too. Was wondering when they were going to jump ship and start making 2 cam bows. Good for them.... Should have done it along time ago though. But they will sell a ton of them..

J.C. · 11-17-2008, 08:11 AM

I'm kinda disappointed. even though I'm a Bowtech guy, I was hoping for some new technology to push the entire archery industry forward. I was looking for either a new limb material or something radical that would get 360 out of a bow at a decent brace height. instead it's dual cams and a 5" brace height. I guess we really have topped out the speed with current technology.

I hope the Mathews guys dont take this as a bash. the new bows look nice and I'm sure they shoot fine, but I was hoping for something really new.

apa fig · 11-17-2008, 08:29 AM

I THINK THEY HAD TO DO THIS I AM SURE THE PRESURE WAS ON. THEY STILL HAVE THERE TARGET BOWS. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENDS WITH THERE PRO STAFF.

master Cleatus · 11-17-2008, 08:32 AM

What is the REEZEN that someone would want a 32 ata bow.......

I just don't get it.....

CutTheLoop · 11-17-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J.C.

I'm kinda disappointed. even though I'm a Bowtech guy, I was hoping for some new technology to push the entire archery industry forward. I was looking for either a new limb material or something radical that would get 360 out of a bow at a decent brace height. instead it's dual cams and a 5" brace height. I guess we really have topped out the speed with current technology.

I hope the Mathews guys dont take this as a bash. the new bows look nice and I'm sure they shoot fine, but I was hoping for something really new.

What we all fail to understand, year to year is this; bow manufacturers probably, very well have the materials, technology and design to produce a 400 fps bow... now, or 5 years back.

But

There's always a but...

They and many other industries learned alot from the technology industry, and a few others. It's called "Planned Obsolescence".

Why releas the absolute pinnacle of those three element now, when they know that the consumer has and will continue to "upgrade" year after year. And it works.

Definition from Wikki:
For an industry, planned obsolescence stimulates demand by encouraging purchasers to buy again sooner if they still want a functioning product. Built-in obsolescence is in many different products, from vehicles to light bulbs, from buildings to software. There is, however, the potential backlash of consumers who learn that the manufacturer invested money to make the product obsolete faster; such consumers might turn to a producer, if any, which offers a more durable alternative.

Chris · 11-17-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

Hey Chris, which demo model are you receiving?

I don't know. I'll be able to tell you in about an hour when UPS delivers

Based on a post I saw on another forum. I think it is the Reezen 6.5. I've been trying to get on the mathews website all morning but it's dead. The traffic killed it.

I want more info on the monster bows and what kind of cams they have. I'm surprised to see a dual/hybrid cam on a mathews bow but they had to do something to keep up with the Jones'

muckdog · 11-17-2008, 10:35 AM

The monster looks a quite a bit like the X Force.....Cams look the same and so does the limb configuration......

Allen · 11-17-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FOBsKILL

What we all fail to understand, year to year is this; bow manufacturers probably, very well have the materials, technology and design to produce a 400 fps bow... now, or 5 years back..

They have had it a lot longer than that. I saw a post from Terry Martin that described 400 fps bows in the early 80's.

The problem with them is that they were very unpleasant to shoot. The draw was extremely harsh with the full peak weight starting at about 1" of draw and continuing until the last half inch where it dropped off suddenly to around 30 to 40% letoff. Brace height was about 3". I've never shot anything like this, but it seems a recipe for blown shoulders.

Bow designers have understood what it takes to get to 400 fps for many years. The advances that we've seen in recent years are from keeping bows fast and making them smooth enough for the average archer to handle it. After all they have to design bows that will sell and not ruin too many shoulders.

CutTheLoop · 11-17-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Allen

They have had it a lot longer than that. I saw a post from Terry Martin that described 400 fps bows in the early 80's.

The problem with them is that they were very unpleasant to shoot. The draw was extremely harsh with the full peak weight starting at about 1" of draw and continuing until the last half inch where it dropped off suddenly to around 30 to 40% letoff. Brace height was about 3". I've never shot anything like this, but it seems a recipe for blown shoulders.

Bow designers have understood what it takes to get to 400 fps for many years. The advances that we've seen in recent years are from keeping bows fast and making them smooth enough for the average archer to handle it. After all they have to design bows that will sell and not ruin too many shoulders.

Exactly, I have shot some of "those" bows, and no, they were not pleasant at all.

Mathews Man · 11-17-2008, 12:26 PM

Mathews site is DEAD, And I really want to see whats new

I am sad to see they went to a under 7 in BH. I am old fasion I guess but I like a long ATA and big BH. But I shoot a slow Ovation, I was hoping for a new bow in the 330 range with a 7 in BH. BUt who knows when the site is up mabey they will have just what I want

Allen · 11-17-2008, 01:50 PM

This is copied from ArcherySite.net:

Reezen 6.5:
IBO Rating: up to 340 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 32"
Brace Height: 6.5"
Draw Weight: 40 - 70 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.15 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 24" - 30"
Half Sizes: 24.5" - 29.5"
*Specs are approximate

Reezen 7.0:
IBO Rating: up to 335 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 32"
Brace Height: 7"
Draw Weight: 40 - 70 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.10 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 24.5" - 30.5"
Half Sizes: 24.5" - 30.5"
*Specs are approximate

Monster:
IBO Rating: up to 350 plus fps
Axle-to-Axle: 33.5"
Brace Height: 6"
Draw Weight: 40 - 80 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.4 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 25" - 30"
Half Sizes: 25.5" - 29.5"
*Specs are

Monster XLR8:
IBO Rating: up to 360 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 33.5"
Brace Height: 5"
Draw Weight: 40 - 80 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.4 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 25" - 30"
Half Sizes: 25.5" - 29.5

Hyperlite:
IBO Rating: up to 325 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 29.75"
Brace Height: 7"
Draw Weight: 40 - 70 lbs
Bow Weight: 3.45 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 23.5" - 30"
Half Sizes: 23.5" - 29.5"
*Specs are approximate

They have photos over there.

It looks like Mathews has gone for speed this year.

rpford53 · 11-17-2008, 01:52 PM

I was really disappointed in the new line, seems as though the copied the PSE Xforce line all the way to the speed nocks on the string. I guess their new moto will be "We'll catch up some day, if we can". Just was hoping for more out of them.

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 01:56 PM

some pics for those who have not seen them

Hyperlite, looks to be a DXT, minus the rollor guard.....

is the Monster a split limb??

J.C. · 11-17-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN

some pics for those who have not seen them

Hyperlite, looks to be a DXT, minus the rollor guard.....

is the Monster a split limb??

somebody on AT said they thought it was, and that they called it part of the McPherson series, so I was half right........

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 02:48 PM

I hope they use the Mission grip on the Monster line.......

Hoyt_563 · 11-17-2008, 02:58 PM

The 09s are pretty nice!!

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 03:09 PM

Supposedly none of the dealers in this area are getting theres till tomorow....

WHAT A LOAD OF HOOOIE

killasoundz · 11-17-2008, 04:02 PM

That hyperlite may be calling my name if the price is right.

beenfarr · 11-17-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen

This is copied from ArcherySite.net:

Reezen 6.5:
IBO Rating: up to 340 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 32"
Brace Height: 6.5"
Draw Weight: 40 - 70 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.15 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 24" - 30"
Half Sizes: 24.5" - 29.5"
*Specs are approximate

Reezen 7.0:
IBO Rating: up to 335 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 32"
Brace Height: 7"
Draw Weight: 40 - 70 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.10 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 24.5" - 30.5"
Half Sizes: 24.5" - 30.5"
*Specs are approximate

Monster:
IBO Rating: up to 350 plus fps
Axle-to-Axle: 33.5"
Brace Height: 6"
Draw Weight: 40 - 80 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.4 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 25" - 30"
Half Sizes: 25.5" - 29.5"
*Specs are

Monster XLR8:
IBO Rating: up to 360 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 33.5"
Brace Height: 5"
Draw Weight: 40 - 80 lbs
Bow Weight: 4.4 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 25" - 30"
Half Sizes: 25.5" - 29.5

Hyperlite:
IBO Rating: up to 325 fps
Axle-to-Axle: 29.75"
Brace Height: 7"
Draw Weight: 40 - 70 lbs
Bow Weight: 3.45 lbs
Letoff: 80%
Draw Lengths: 23.5" - 30"
Half Sizes: 23.5" - 29.5"
*Specs are approximate

They have photos over there.

It looks like Mathews has gone for speed this year.

What's up with "up to" as a sped rating? Makes believe that you won't see 360 out of the Monster XLR8.

Ben

Mathews Man · 11-17-2008, 04:53 PM

Now that I have seen em the Reezen .7 is what I am looking for but

the price tags

Talk about sticker shock

I hate to say it but I am looking at other bows now mabey Diamond or BT

BuckeyeRed · 11-17-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathews Man

Now that I have seen em the Reezen .7 is what I am looking for but

the price tags

Talk about sticker shock

I hate to say it but I am looking at other bows now mabey Diamond or BT

The Reezen 6.5 is $760 here, I bet the Reezen 7.0 will be the same.

Looney Bin · 11-17-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

I don't know. I'll be able to tell you in about an hour when UPS delivers

Based on a post I saw on another forum. I think it is the Reezen 6.5. I've been trying to get on the mathews website all morning but it's dead. The traffic killed it.

I want more info on the monster bows and what kind of cams they have. I'm surprised to see a dual/hybrid cam on a mathews bow but they had to do something to keep up with the Jones'

Hey when you get a chance throw that Reezen 6.5 on a draw board and measure the DL.(if you wouldn't mind. Please)Just curious if the DL's still run long?? And by how much?

chuckatuk · 11-17-2008, 07:07 PM

anyone notice on the mathews site the monster's grip says solo cam on it/

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by killasoundz

That hyperlite may be calling my name if the price is right.

$799

DXT minus the rollor guard

la.basscat · 11-17-2008, 07:38 PM

No longer ATA bows for targets?

hoyt_hunter007 · 11-17-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN

some pics for those who have not seen them

Hyperlite, looks to be a DXT, minus the rollor guard.....

is the Monster a split limb??

Maybe not when you get it, but within the first 200 shots....likely

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hoyt_hunter007

Maybe not when you get it, but within the first 200 shots....likely

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by la.basscat

No longer ATA bows for targets?

they allready have the best target bows in the world......whats to improve??

STRO · 11-17-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BUNNYMAN

they allready have the best target bows in the world......whats to improve??

I agree they do have some great target bows, but if they don't come out with a new target bow this year it makes two years in a row without a target bow. Unless you count the LD as a target bow. I would think they are missing out on the target bow market. Even if they came out with something that is just a little bit different it would most likely sell. But to come out with nothing, I think they are losing out on this market.

BUNNYMAN · 11-17-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by STRO

I agree they do have some great target bows, but if they don't come out with a new target bow this year it makes two years in a row without a target bow. Unless you count the LD as a target bow. I would think they are missing out on the target bow market. Even if they came out with something that is just a little bit different it would most likely sell. But to come out with nothing, I think they are losing out on this market.

oh, I agree with you completly......I am waiting for the PrestigeII

Mathews Man · 11-18-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

The Reezen 6.5 is $760 here, I bet the Reezen 7.0 will be the same.

Hope that the price here Mathews Web site says $869 or so jeenkies

BuckeyeRed · 11-19-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rpford53

I was really disappointed in the new line, seems as though the copied the PSE Xforce line all the way to the speed nocks on the string. I guess their new moto will be "We'll catch up some day, if we can". Just was hoping for more out of them.

Not so, see for yourself. AVS system is pretty trick. As far as the past parallel limbs you can't really make them look much different, a past parallel limb is a past parallel limb. Watch the vid.

http://mathewsinc.com/bows/monster.asp#gallery

so1ocam · 11-19-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Looney Bin

Hey when you get a chance throw that Reezen 6.5 on a draw board and measure the DL.(if you wouldn't mind. Please)Just curious if the DL's still run long?? And by how much?

I shot a 28" yesterday and it felt comfortable to me, I shoot a 29" draw. I'm curious what the tape says as well.

wyoming4x4 · 11-19-2008, 10:35 AM

Shot the 2009 mathews last night and didn't like it. The string had a buzz in it. It didn't have any string dampners. i could feel the string buzz for about 5 seconds just holding it after the shot. I don't even remember which mathews it was but didn't like it. After shooting a captain and ross and 101 and 82nd and hoyt ultratec and my marquis, constitution. The captain has won the contest on feel and shoots nice. Seen a swat shoot last night and shoots pretty good and he didn't like the mathews either compared to swat. I like the dead in the had feel after shot. My constitution is the smoothest but different application. Waiting for the sentinel to come out. Sorry about the bad review but had a pretty good mix of bows the play with. The Ross is the worst on the feel in the hand after shot. lots of vibe in hand.

J.C. · 11-19-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wyoming4x4

Shot the 2009 mathews last night and didn't like it. The string had a buzz in it. It didn't have any string dampners. i could feel the string buzz for about 5 seconds just holding it after the shot. I don't even remember which mathews it was but didn't like it. After shooting a captain and ross and 101 and 82nd and hoyt ultratec and my marquis, constitution. The captain has won the contest on feel and shoots nice. Seen a swat shoot last night and shoots pretty good and he didn't like the mathews either compared to swat. I like the dead in the had feel after shot. My constitution is the smoothest but different application. Waiting for the sentinel to come out. Sorry about the bad review but had a pretty good mix of bows the play with. The Ross is the worst on the feel in the hand after shot. lots of vibe in hand.

which Ross did you shoot? the single cam or the new hybrid?