Archery Forums 3DShoots.com
Find Archery Shoots near you  |   Advertise on 3DShoots.com

Go Back   Archery Forums 3DShoots.com > Archery Forum > General Archery Forum
 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-10-2009, 12:53 PM   #1
Daniel Boone
Senior Member
 
Daniel Boone's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,934
Daniel Boone is on a distinguished road
Default Two bows and what I have found

My shoulder feels much better at 55lb bow.

But there no doubt my 61lb bow holds and shoots tighter groups. The extra holding weight just sits better.

Might practice with the 55lber and shoot day take the 61lber.

My shoulder wont take the constant practice with the 61lbs.

My question Im still getting to shoot and practice aiming

Im thinking this might be an option!
__________________
Elite bows, Vortex Binos, Trophy Taker sights, Carter releases, Goldtip Arrows. CBE sights, Vapor Trail Strings, B Stinger stabilizers
Daniel Boone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2009, 01:18 PM   #2
OneMustFall
Member
 
OneMustFall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 796
OneMustFall is on a distinguished road
Default

Souunds like you need a bow with a 75% letoff,and use a 55lbs holding weight,best of both worlds,..............
__________________
2010 PSE AXE 7
OneMustFall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2009, 10:27 PM   #3
TMax27
Senior Member
 
TMax27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fairland, OK
Posts: 778
TMax27 is on a distinguished road
Default

Is it the pull, or is it the hold that hurts? Maybe OMF is on to something.
__________________
2008 Elite XXL 29 3/4" 70lbs- G1 Camo
2008.5 Elite XLR 29 3/4" 60lbs- Ninja
2009 Elite XLR 29 3/4" 65lbs- Metallic Red
2009 Elite GT500 w/ Cuda Cams 25" 47lbs- Pink Ninja
TMax27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2009, 11:57 PM   #4
jame
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 467
jame is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OneMustFall View Post
Souunds like you need a bow with a 75% letoff,and use a 55lbs holding weight,best of both worlds,..............
I think it would be right the opposite. He needs more holding weight with less draw weight.

I would suggest to try to make your holding weight come up some with the 55lb draw. Make your cables larger or get an oversized drawstop.
jame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 06:24 AM   #5
OneMustFall
Member
 
OneMustFall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 796
OneMustFall is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jame View Post
I think it would be right the opposite. He needs more holding weight with less draw weight.

I would suggest to try to make your holding weight come up some with the 55lb draw. Make your cables larger or get an oversized drawstop.
What i was trying to say is the 75% let off would simulate a higher darw weight but but still be easy on the shoulder at 55lbs, as theirs not much difference between 75%-80% letoff.
He says he more accurate with a 61lbs i thought the above setup would would feel the same as 61lbs.
__________________
2010 PSE AXE 7
OneMustFall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 06:53 AM   #6
jame
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 467
jame is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OneMustFall View Post
What i was trying to say is the 75% let off would simulate a higher darw weight but but still be easy on the shoulder at 55lbs, as theirs not much difference between 75%-80% letoff.
He says he more accurate with a 61lbs i thought the above setup would would feel the same as 61lbs.
I gotcha. I think he shoots 65% let off.
jame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 07:06 AM   #7
Daniel Boone
Senior Member
 
Daniel Boone's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,934
Daniel Boone is on a distinguished road
Default Im going to check the let off

Shoulder was a little sore this morning from shooting the 61 lb bow yesturday.

Think Im going to try it this weekend both days. See how it feels.

Yes the 61 pounds pulling weight makes the shoulder sore.

Been shooting the 55lbs for two weeks and shoulder feeling better. This should be an easy no brainer. I need to be shooting the 55lb bow for my shoulder.

This is basicly the last month of 3d.

I may have to make this call at the end of the month. Sale the 60/70lb bow and that solves this promblem.
__________________
Elite bows, Vortex Binos, Trophy Taker sights, Carter releases, Goldtip Arrows. CBE sights, Vapor Trail Strings, B Stinger stabilizers
Daniel Boone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 10:08 AM   #8
MickeyBee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 237
MickeyBee is on a distinguished road
Default

Try pulling with your back muscles during the draw. Takes some of the load off your shoulders.

Works for me.
MickeyBee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2009, 09:05 PM   #9
ozzy
Senior Member
 
ozzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hendertucky,Nv.
Posts: 221
ozzy is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyBee View Post
Try pulling with your back muscles during the draw. Takes some of the load off your shoulders.

Works for me.
This is why I like this place.
__________________
Redhead Kronik 60-70# 26" Draw
Octane Hostage Pro Rest
Tru-Glo Tru-Site X-Treme
Limbsaver 4.55 S-Coil Stabilizer
T.R.U. Ball Chappy Boss
ozzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009, 08:51 PM   #10
grits and gravy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2
grits and gravy is on a distinguished road
Default

Why dont you try twisting your cables a few times then shorten the draw stop. This will decrease the let off and keep the draw length the same. While it will also allow you to set the bow at 55 lbs and hold more weight without having to draw more weight.
grits and gravy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 09:08 AM   #11
sealevel
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: salmon arm bc
Posts: 10
sealevel is on a distinguished road
Default

For some one who likes shooting a bow as much as you DB i can`t believe you would jeopardize your future in archery.....For a few tighter groups.

I guess if you screw up your shoulder.....you can take up the crossbow LOL
sealevel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 09:32 AM   #12
Daniel Boone
Senior Member
 
Daniel Boone's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,934
Daniel Boone is on a distinguished road
Default 100% right

The truth is I should stop shooting tournament archery.

Arthitus is there and it aint going away soon.

I am not practicing alot now and that is my plan to limit my practice.
DB
__________________
Elite bows, Vortex Binos, Trophy Taker sights, Carter releases, Goldtip Arrows. CBE sights, Vapor Trail Strings, B Stinger stabilizers
Daniel Boone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 10:18 AM   #13
TMax27
Senior Member
 
TMax27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fairland, OK
Posts: 778
TMax27 is on a distinguished road
Default

Don't stop shooting 3d tournaments(maybe indoor 5 spot), just limit your practice and make those practices count. You are always saying that your shooting is good, but your yardage judging is not as good. Maybe a way to stay in the game is to practice more yardage judging and a little less actual shooting.
__________________
2008 Elite XXL 29 3/4" 70lbs- G1 Camo
2008.5 Elite XLR 29 3/4" 60lbs- Ninja
2009 Elite XLR 29 3/4" 65lbs- Metallic Red
2009 Elite GT500 w/ Cuda Cams 25" 47lbs- Pink Ninja
TMax27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 10:28 AM   #14
sealevel
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: salmon arm bc
Posts: 10
sealevel is on a distinguished road
Default

Dos`nt an elite have pretty aggressive cams. I sure don`t think you should stop shooting tournaments. Just find a bow that will let you shoot comfortably. I know you use to shoot mathews maybe go back . Or a APA viper...
sealevel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2009, 05:38 PM   #15
cath8r
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 54
cath8r is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey guys, I just joined here today and noticeds this thread. There is one thing that I noticed, having arthritis and loving archery. I found that the more keyboard typing I do, the more my shoulders, wrists and fingers 'act up'. I found that cutting back on the time I spend on the computer and not pushing myself draw weight wise, the better my joints feel. Honestly, liliting my time on the internet really helps my shoulders and I shoot better. Just my $.02 and trying to help. Later, Rob.
cath8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2009, 06:03 PM   #16
Gotcha Nock Jim
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 31
Gotcha Nock Jim is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey DB I know you love your lizard tongue, there is no better rest, but you are really straining to slow draw to keep on that rest, maybe try a bow doodle or drop away you can jerk on back without the arrow falling off? I feel for you buddy my shoulder did get better! You know I wish you all the best even when you outshoot me.
Gotcha Nock Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2009, 10:12 PM   #17
bigbird1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1
bigbird1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Boone View Post
My shoulder feels much better at 55lb bow.

But there no doubt my 61lb bow holds and shoots tighter groups. The extra holding weight just sits better.

Might practice with the 55lber and shoot day take the 61lber.

My shoulder wont take the constant practice with the 61lbs.

My question Im still getting to shoot and practice aiming

Im thinking this might be an option!
DB,
I'm shooting an Elite XLR at only 50 lbs. and found that I too had trouble shooting tighter groups with the low holding weight. I have since switched from a thumb release to a hinge release (Scott Apex). This has helped a great deal in allowing me to hold the bow steadier and also has greatly helped me obtain a more surprise release. I've never been able to shoot a hinge very well before with other bows but the Elite super hard wall and very comfortable letoff makes it much easier for me - especially if I set the release very slow.
Just a suggestion for what it's worth. Would hate to see such a great guy who enjoys archery so much quit shooting.
bigbird1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2009, 10:35 PM   #18
Daniel Boone
Senior Member
 
Daniel Boone's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,934
Daniel Boone is on a distinguished road
Default Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbird1 View Post
DB,
I'm shooting an Elite XLR at only 50 lbs. and found that I too had trouble shooting tighter groups with the low holding weight. I have since switched from a thumb release to a hinge release (Scott Apex). This has helped a great deal in allowing me to hold the bow steadier and also has greatly helped me obtain a more surprise release. I've never been able to shoot a hinge very well before with other bows but the Elite super hard wall and very comfortable letoff makes it much easier for me - especially if I set the release very slow.
Just a suggestion for what it's worth. Would hate to see such a great guy who enjoys archery so much quit shooting.
Interesting idea. Im going to give the 55pounds another shot this fall indoor. Im not stopping shooting anytime soon I hope. Thanks for that tip.
DB
__________________
Elite bows, Vortex Binos, Trophy Taker sights, Carter releases, Goldtip Arrows. CBE sights, Vapor Trail Strings, B Stinger stabilizers
Daniel Boone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2009, 07:58 AM   #19
mobowdoctor
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 67
mobowdoctor is on a distinguished road
Default

DB
I have gone through it my self

less holding weight more floating around my spot
try adding weight to the riser i know it sounds like we are going a different direction but the riser weight will fool you into holding stronger like more holding weight
it wont take much a few oz her and there
make sure it ballances out so it dont jump funny just to the spot
DOC
mobowdoctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2004 3DShoots.com