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Old 07-12-2009, 10:13 PM   #1
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Default Mathews Monster and Tom Crowe

I was told Tom shot 16 up with a 80lb Mathews monster shooting at 364 fps in Nelsonville.

No telling how heavy his arrow was!
Now thats one fast bow and Tom one heck of a shooter.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:44 PM   #2
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I give him credit for pulling 80lbs.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:21 PM   #3
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I saw Levi and Brandon shooting Monsters as well.

I am not sure if Levi shot his to win??
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:19 PM   #4
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80 lbs.....................I wouldn't even want to try or I would be
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Levi shot his apex..w/xxx arrows at 280....

toms IBO arrows are 2613.....over 400 grains....when they hit foam....its not good for the target....
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At 80lbs. ,must of been shooting for past throughs only !
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That and the fact he was shooting the Monster XLR8 model -->
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Howabout the fingers shooter using the Monster,,I think he won as well.
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Levi shot his apex..w/xxx arrows at 280....

toms IBO arrows are 2613.....over 400 grains....when they hit foam....its not good for the target....
I was grouped with Tom a couple of years ago, and he was shooting the 2613's at 80 lbs then as well... different bow same results... I can tell you that when he shot last, he didn't get bounced out of the 12 ring like most of us do...
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Bwwwwwahahahahaha...........I would imagine not
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Howabout the fingers shooter using the Monster,,I think he won as well.

Yep, Brian Goza shot the Monster in PMF(Pro Male Fingers), won this weekend, and shot it in the previous IBO, and shot one of his best scores ever.
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Yep, Brian Goza shot the Monster in PMF(Pro Male Fingers), won this weekend, and shot it in the previous IBO, and shot one of his best scores ever.
Is Brian dropping to 1 under for the shot?
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Shot my 85 pound Elite XXL...

...The Herniator...

...@ a fun shoot this weekend. Something really cool about a 460 grain arrow goin 295fps
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Is Brian dropping to 1 under for the shot?

Yep,

I've shot Gene's too. It's pretty much the only way to do it without crushing your fingers.
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I've shot Gene's too. It's pretty much the only way to do it without crushing your fingers.
lot easier to tune the cams that way too....
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Howabout the fingers shooter using the Monster,,I think he won as well.

It's one thing to see Tom Crowe do well with a XLR8 in Senior Pro release, but when fingers shooters use a Monster with a 6 inch brace height and do well, there must be a forgiving nature to the technology Matt McPherson has developed for these bows.

What is it about the new design of the Monster and XLR8 that makes them forgiving enough to be used by the Pros...and winning with them?

Is it the inner cam design?...

Is it the way the cables balance the load?

Speed bow and winning are words you don't see used together very often when it comes to big shoots like Nelsonville.

Your thoughts on the mechanics of the technology used to produce these bows?...mac
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Its the shooter...not the bow that wins tournaments. The bow can only do what its told, its up to the shooter to execute the perfect shot.
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It's one thing to see Tom Crowe do well with a XLR8 in Senior Pro release, but when fingers shooters use a Monster with a 6 inch brace height and do well, there must be a forgiving nature to the technology Matt McPherson has developed for these bows.

What is it about the new design of the Monster and XLR8 that makes them forgiving enough to be used by the Pros...and winning with them?

Is it the inner cam design?...

Is it the way the cables balance the load?

Speed bow and winning are words you don't see used together very often when it comes to big shoots like Nelsonville.

Your thoughts on the mechanics of the technology used to produce these bows?...mac
Honestly, from a finger shooter, the fact that it works as well as it does kinda defies most logic. At least as to what factors apply to shooting fingers setup and arrow.

Another theory I've heard as to why(fingers anyway), it works so well is the "dead spot" of sorts between the wall and when the power stroke takes over, somewhere in between there, the normal interferences or influences placed on the string, arrow and bow are canceled, reduced or corrected making for great arrow flight from what traditionally, made no sense.
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Its the shooter...not the bow that wins tournaments. The bow can only do what its told, its up to the shooter to execute the perfect shot.

To a point yes, but there comes a point when an equipment change produces a needed edge. Even if it is simply confidence gained from shooting one particular bow, arrow, release, sight etc over another.
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Honestly, from a finger shooter, the fact that it works as well as it does kinda defies most logic. At least as to what factors apply to shooting fingers setup and arrow.

Another theory I've heard as to why(fingers anyway), it works so well is the "dead spot" of sorts between the wall and when the power stroke takes over, somewhere in between there, the normal interferences or influences placed on the string, arrow and bow are canceled, reduced or corrected making for great arrow flight from what traditionally, made no sense.
not to mention you can time the cams for that one finger under pretty easy... something you can't do on other cam systems... and get level nock travel... makes shooting a bunch easier...
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not to mention you can time the cams for that one finger under pretty easy... something you can't do on other cam systems... and get level nock travel... makes shooting a bunch easier...
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That and the fact he was shooting the Monster XLR8 model -->
Isnt it like under 6" on that model?
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Tom shot the xlr8 (5 inch brace) at nelsonville ( 80lb 30 inch 364 fps 400+ grain 2613)....if the information I was given is correct (and I think it is) tom did and experiment

42 yard standing bear...tom can shoot 35 and still catch a ten. ( I assume he is aimig center 11)

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Tom shot the xlr8 (5 inch brace) at nelsonville ( 80lb 30 inch 364 fps 400+ grain 2613)....if the information I was given is correct (and I think it is) tom did and experiment

42 yard standing bear...tom can shoot 35 and still catch a ten. ( I assume he is aimig center 11)

thats chit'n and a gettin'
Amazing he can control that kind of speed. Im glad ASA has a speed limit. But speed limit of not beating Tom Crowe is never an easy task. Many are showing the monster can win
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You put a good shooting bow in the hands of an expert archer and anything can happen, most will shoot lights out with a stick bow if given the opportunity.

But you have to admit that the Monster Series really does have a good balance of speed and shoot-ability.

Those that may struggle with this bow may be over bowed in either poundage and or draw length trying to achieve the bragging rights in reference to the speed numbers.

This is one opportunity to be able to shoot a lot less poundage and yet equal or outdo the speeds of one original setup, this could be a sweet advantage when hunting


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