2007 Bowtech Guardian

Chris · 10-17-2006, 04:26 PM

Someone posted this picture from a PBR magazine. I can't confirm or deny the validity of this picture.

BUNNYMAN · 10-17-2006, 05:59 PM

look they finally figured a way to kep those blowtech limbs together......

that really has to be the ugliest bow I have ever seen.......

walks with a gimp · 10-17-2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

look they finally figured a way to kep those blowtech limbs together......

that really has to be the ugliest bow I have ever seen.......

You always make it a habbit of calling a bow,, blow,,,,, man?

diamond-vic. · 10-18-2006, 08:40 AM

i bet my bowtech can out shoot whatever you shoot

Dredly · 10-18-2006, 08:47 AM

looking at that I can't figure out how it would work as the riser appears to be solid... weird.

how long before Elite comes out with their version?

Chris · 10-18-2006, 12:16 PM

rumored specs...

Guardian
33.75" ata
321-329 IBO
7 1/8" brace

Camo · 10-20-2006, 12:18 AM

Well, to me, it looks as though there are pivot points on the riser, as if the ends of the riser would sweep back at full draw......?????? Strange, but I'm sure they are not going to market something that dont work..

As for the rumored specs......If that is what it does, I'll take an Allegiance!

Chris · 10-20-2006, 10:48 AM

Ok, just talked to Bowtech last night. They said the Guardian and Commander are going to cause a big stir in the industry.

The new system completely eliminates any cam lean. But that's not the big thing. The big thing is the pivot points are totally different. With the riser designed the way it is, it shoots and aims like a big bow. It has something to do with the pivot point being behind the grip instead of in front of the grip like typical systems.

No bow press needed to change the strings and cables.

Supposedly they tune incredibly easy. The average archer will see dramatic improvements in accuracy according to BT.

I know I can't wait till they show up so I can start testing them.

Oh here are some specs direct from Bowtech
Commander
37-1/4" Axle
7-1/2" brace
draw lengths 27-32"
IBO 318

Guardian
33-3/7" Axle
7-1/4" brace
draw lenghts 25-30"
IBO 329

Oh and get this a new Constitution
41" axle
8-1/4" brace
320 IBO

New cams on the tribute and allegiance. The Allegiance riser is a bit lighter this year.

Oh and Side Plate Grips

. Target colors will be Chrome, Black Chrome and Marble. Boy I really liked the Blue and Red last year but they said it was too hard to produce.

10-21-2006, 12:24 PM

If anyone knows of any shops in the Eastern Pa ,, NJ,, De,, Md area that has the new Bowtechs out please post. The small shops in my area said not until late Dec.

BUNNYMAN · 10-21-2006, 08:17 PM

just because they are advertising the new bows does not mean they are available yet.......

10-22-2006, 06:51 AM

Gee, ya think Bowman. I was referring to when they are released!

Dredly · 10-22-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HOYT4LIFE

Gee, ya think Bowman. I was referring to when they are released!

are you going to change you name?

BUNNYMAN · 10-22-2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HOYT4LIFE

If anyone knows of any shops in the Eastern Pa ,, NJ,, De,, Md area that has the new Bowtechs out please post. The small shops in my area said not until late Dec.

actually smart guy reread your post before you speak........

10-22-2006, 07:59 AM

Looks like I might have to Dredly. If it is as sweet as people are saying than definately. Sorry for mistating a post Bowman, maybe I'll grow up to be as smart as you someday, looks like you were the only one that could not figure that out.

BUNNYMAN · 10-22-2006, 08:11 AM

if you have not relized it, noone will ever be as smart as me.....I am a legend in my own mind.....

Dredly · 10-22-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

if you have not relized it, noone will ever be as smart as me.....I am a legend in my own mind.....

as scary as that thought is I believe it! haha

BUNNYMAN · 10-22-2006, 08:22 AM

finally some one agrees........

BowhuntnHoosier · 10-22-2006, 10:42 AM

That is a pretty ugly bow but, can you imagine what the traditional archers said when they seen the first compound????? If I can get my hands on one I'll give it a test.

BUNNYMAN · 10-22-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BowhuntnHoosier

That is a pretty ugly bow but, can you imagine what the traditional archers said when they seen the first compound????? If I can get my hands on one I'll give it a test.

have fun and remember i say this to myself every morning in the mirror......looks are not everything......

Darton_Shooter · 10-23-2006, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by diamond-vic.

i bet my bowtech can out shoot whatever you shoot

Well I guess that is a relative term given this movie here...and they shoot recurves...a bow is only as good as the man shooting it, regardless of FPS, brace height, doodads and widgets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcNY2t0h-HE&eurl

It's about 4:30 mins in length and if you can do that bro with your Diamond join the olympics, oh and note the distances in meters too

papito · 10-23-2006, 09:15 AM

I'm new to bow hunting and i dont know much about whats good and whats not but that is one of the ugliest bows ive ever seen!!!

BUNNYMAN · 10-23-2006, 03:18 PM

I already posted that in another thread....the korean archery thread

bullspotter · 10-23-2006, 10:43 PM

I heard they got rid of the cam lean by changing the cables to the other side of the cam..... Swapped the cables and string around....

Dredly · 10-24-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bullspotter

I heard they got rid of the cam lean by changing the cables to the other side of the cam..... Swapped the cables and string around....

wouldn't that just make them lean the other way?

BUNNYMAN · 10-24-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dredly

wouldn't that just make them lean the other way?

now thats funny but ......hes right.......

BUNNYMAN · 10-24-2006, 06:11 AM

Instead of wasting time and money on fixing this "great" idea (binary) why dont they just come up w/something that works properly in the first place.....

Xtremesportsman · 10-26-2006, 07:57 AM

I recently bought the Elite E-Force and what a bad experience this was. I personally can not wait for these new BowTechs to arrive on the shelves so I can see tyhem hands on. If they are as good as the other products Bowtech continues to put out I would be interested in one.

I currently shoot a Mathews Switchback (27 inch @ 60 lbs) and the E-force (26 inch @ 65 lbs). I am hunting with the Switchback this year because the dealer that sold me the Elite set the bow up so bad I didn't have time to shoot it. Sadly enough I brought the Elite to a dealer that sells BowTech and Mathews to fix it (same one that sold me my mathews) and he set the Elite up to shoot. At least now I can shoot the bow and get some enjoyment out of it. I just wish I had faith in the Elite Archery Company like I have had in all the bows I have owned and the companies that made them. Jennings, Browning, PSE and Mathews. I have searched for a contact email for Elite to answer some of my questions but they have absolutely nothing. I understand they are a new company, but they have to understnad the customers concerns. When they let their customers get the information from a forum about their (Elite Archery) bows, they are not a very good business to deal with.

All in all I do like the Elite Eforce, but anyone can see it is a Bowtech copy. The one thing that sold me over the Bowtech was the camo on it, very nice. Now that it is shooting for me and set up properly it is very fast but not as smooth as my Mathews Switchback. But owning the bow and having customer support from the company is two things thayt shold go hand in hand. They are two things that I will look for in the future. My own fault for jumping on a pretty bow without doing a little research on my own first. I also listened to a dealer that obviously didn't want to get stuck with bows from a going under company. But maybe the lesson here is you sholdn't screw the customer.

My .02 cents only.

BUNNYMAN · 10-26-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Xtremesportsman

I also listened to a dealer that obviously didn't want to get stuck with bows from a going under company. .

has there been any word on wether they are done or not......thought for sure they would have been done by now......guess now w/the way the new bowtechs look that they wont have to worry about any copyrights.......

Dredly · 10-26-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

has there been any word on wether they are done or not......thought for sure they would have been done by now......guess now w/the way the new bowtechs look that they wont have to worry about any copyrights.......

They are producing a limited 07 line... No lefties or short draw bows though.

BUNNYMAN · 10-26-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dredly

They are producing a limited 07 line... No lefties or short draw bows though.

well no short draw that means I an out .........maybe we CAN be 3dshoots buddies.......

Dredly · 10-26-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

well no short draw that means I an out .........maybe we CAN be 3dshoots buddies.......

Yeah just what I need a 3dshoots buddy that can't even draw 27 inches.

BUNNYMAN · 10-26-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dredly

Yeah just what I need a 3dshoots buddy that can't even draw 27 inches.

I can and do......27.5

Dredly · 10-26-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

I can and do......27.5

I'll look like a giant next to you drawing my 30.5... nope you must be at least 28 inch draw to shoot. Sorry

BUNNYMAN · 10-27-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dredly

I'll look like a giant next to you drawing my 30.5... nope you must be at least 28 inch draw to shoot. Sorry

fine I never really cared to be seen next to a bowrejct anyway

.....

Chris · 10-27-2006, 09:59 PM

In my line of work, I have learned to not make judgements until you have had the item in your hands and tested it. Otherwise you end up like this

Sometimes the goofy or strange looking items work the best. Just look back at the early opinions of drop aways, whisker biscuits and the STS.

BUNNYMAN · 10-27-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

In my line of work, I have learned to not make judgements until you have had the item in your hands and tested it. Otherwise you end up like this

Sometimes the goofy or strange looking items work the best. Just look back at the early opinions of drop aways, whisker biscuits and the STS.

ok so drop aways I will admit I said nah at first and found out there not so bad.......STS thought it was great from the begining and still do......

And last but not least the WB...............................they sucked when they first came out and my opinion has never and will never change.....thank you....

Chris · 10-28-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

ok so drop aways I will admit I said nah at first and found out there not so bad.......STS thought it was great from the begining and still do......

And last but not least the WB...............................they sucked when they first came out and my opinion has never and will never change.....thank you....

Bowman, haven't you killed that dead horse yet? He's gotta be dog food already.