Originally Posted by Chris
They are the best stands you can buy, but that is just my opinion.
I have a climber which I love the best out of all my stands...I have ever owned.
I also have the permanent model,but the new alpha fold back seat seems to look oh so comfortable.
I might have to get me that.....
One thing is for sure,they are the only stand I have ever.....not had made any creekin" or noise at all in,even in extreme cold.