Easton Full Bores

OrthoPT · 11-14-2011, 09:33 AM

Anyone use these for 3d. What have been your experiences with them, and what length, point wt. etc. would you recommend for this arrow.
30 inch draw, 65 lbs, out of a vantage elite.

Compound Comedian · 11-14-2011, 10:06 AM

real good 3d shafts, Hi priced, weight in the nose, I would say 100 gr min in the nose for a 30 in draw. cut 28.5-29" carbon to carbon. The bushing and easton G nock are great, lots of good vanes out there. Dura vane fusions work good, stay away from the new neon versions.

OrthoPT · 11-14-2011, 02:09 PM

Some of the local shoots they stretch out the yardages so how do you think they would perform out in the 50 - 60 yd range.

Westy · 11-14-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Compound Comedian

real good 3d shafts, Hi priced, weight in the nose, I would say 100 gr min in the nose for a 30 in draw. cut 28.5-29" carbon to carbon. The bushing and easton G nock are great, lots of good vanes out there. Dura vane fusions work good, stay away from the new neon versions.

My work here is done

OrthoPT · 11-14-2011, 05:48 PM

any one else have any experience with shooting these at any distance and how they fly.

Compound Comedian · 11-14-2011, 06:11 PM

they are a specialy 3D shaft and 3D is shot out to 50 yds max per ASA and IBO. they are excellent max dia shaft. if You want to shoot NFAA field or Fita, they arent the best choice. They arent a hunting shaft.

OrthoPT · 11-14-2011, 06:32 PM

No only for 3D and for indoor. We get issues with the wind as well so that was another concern I had, but cant have everything.

Compound Comedian · 11-14-2011, 06:36 PM

yes all or most 3D specialty shafts make good Indoor/Vegas style arrows

OrthoPT · 11-16-2011, 08:56 AM

How do the full bores stack up against the 30x from gold tip.

kw1 · 11-16-2011, 10:25 AM

They are bigger same size as the xxx

KW

Compound Comedian · 11-16-2011, 10:41 AM

The full bores are stiff, the XXX GTs are super stiff . The easton full bores will allow you to get away with less weight in the nose( foc ) especially longer draw archers.

kw1 · 11-16-2011, 10:43 AM

Full bores are 400 spine aren't they

KW

Compound Comedian · 11-16-2011, 12:31 PM

350, GT XXXs are like 150

OrthoPT · 11-16-2011, 12:33 PM

Thanks guys for the input and I am going to go with the full bores, and put 150 grn in the front for vegas and 100 grn in them for 3D. My draw is 30 inches so what length would you say.

Compound Comedian · 11-16-2011, 06:09 PM

How long do you cut your arrows now?

BuckeyeRed · 11-16-2011, 06:19 PM

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350, GT XXXs are like 150

No joke. You could use XXXs as a rebar replacement in concrete.

OrthoPT · 11-17-2011, 08:54 AM

I usually cut them 29 to 28.5

bhtr3d · 11-17-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Compound Comedian

they are a specialy 3D shaft and 3D is shot out to 50 yds max per ASA and IBO. they are excellent max dia shaft. if You want to shoot NFAA field or Fita, they arent the best choice. They arent a hunting shaft.

Well you wont be allowed to use them shooting fita....they are over the 23/63 OD size.

Compound Comedian · 11-17-2011, 04:20 PM

23/64 23/64

Brown Hornet · 11-18-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OrthoPT

Thanks guys for the input and I am going to go with the full bores, and put 150 grn in the front for vegas and 100 grn in them for 3D. My draw is 30 inches so what length would you say.

If your shooting 60lbs or so you probably won't even need 150 grains. Those arrows aren't that stiff they are only a .350 spine. So if 100 grain works outside fine it will work inside fine.

DBLLNGR · 11-20-2011, 09:42 AM

I shoot them out of my destroyer350 for 3d with the 100 gr tip in them im shooting 28.5 draw at 70 pounds cut down to like 28.5 inches and they shoot like lasers I love them for my 3d and wont shoot anything else [I] have a dz 30x shafts that ust sit here now.

OrthoPT · 11-21-2011, 09:16 AM

Awesome I will put 100 grn in them and shoot them for both indoor and outdoor.

Compound Comedian · 11-21-2011, 05:09 PM

Indoors , I would use the 150s

Brown Hornet · 11-21-2011, 09:16 PM

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Indoors , I would use the 150s

So you would make the arrow an underspined arrow just so you can shoot 150 grains because it's indoors?!?!?!?

That makes a lot of sense.

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Compound Comedian · 11-21-2011, 11:34 PM

Your making several assumptions that the arrows would be under spined. Why would they make 150 gr points in the 1st place?

Westy · 11-22-2011, 12:22 AM

If you 2 keep this up I'm putting you in time out !!!!

Brown Hornet · 11-22-2011, 06:41 PM

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Your making several assumptions that the arrows would be under spined. Why would they make 150 gr points in the 1st place?

The same reason they make points in other weights. Not everyone needs the same weight points....

And I'm not making assumptions....I understand arrow spine and what heavier and lighter points do to spine.....someone with a 30" draw shooting 60lbs doesn't need 150 grain points in an arrow with that spine of an arrow.

So reading ALL of the information he has provided would tell anyone with a clue about spine and building arrows that he doesn't need 150 grain points....and that's with no assumptions. It's from plenty of playing with programs, and building and shooting many different setup and helping others build perfect arrow combos over the years.

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Compound Comedian · 11-23-2011, 06:19 AM

Optimum point or insert/point combined weight in a 29" arrow at 60# with a 350 spine would be in the 125 to 165 gr range.
The 150 gr would also give the arrow a better FOC % for getting the fired arrow stabilized quicker for the short range venue. The 100 gr point optimizes speed and trajectory for the 3D venue, but sacrifices optimum FOC.

Once the arrow becomes longer han 28" a lil more FOC % per inch longer should be added
All the best Vegas shooters opt for more weight in the nose, making theyre arrows in the soft end of the optimum spine range of the shaft they shoot.

A hunter shooting a 29" carbon to carbon 340-350 spine arrow in a 60#, 30" draw with a 125 gr head and a 15-40 gr insert would also be adequately to optimally spined.

Easton Spine chart states 150 gr is optimum in the 340 to 360 spined arrow at 60# and 30"

In conclusion , a 100 gr total point weight in a 29" Carbon to Carbon 350 spined arrow in a 30" draw 60# bow would be overspined , but probably not enough to NOT achieve good enough results in the 3D venue.

I shoot the 300 (over)spined GT Series 22 with a 125 gr nibb 29" carbon to carbon in a 60# 30.5" draw bow with good results, but the shaft in significantly lighter GPI and I have high FOC. I have 8 or 9 of these made up with 175 gr points for indoor.

wilkersonhunter · 12-19-2011, 06:41 PM

i have a 2011 carbon matrix plus with a 28" draw and shooting 61lbs and shoot the full bores cut to 28" with a 100 grain point that weigh 364 grains. and they shoot fine

rage-it · 12-19-2011, 06:47 PM

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i have a 2011 carbon matrix plus with a 28" draw and shooting 61lbs and shoot the full bores cut to 28" with a 100 grain point that weigh 364 grains. and they shoot fine

Chris you cant even shoot a bow lol

wilkersonhunter · 12-19-2011, 07:06 PM

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Chris you cant even shoot a bow lol

my fellow african, i can shoot a bow.

asa1485 · 12-21-2011, 11:59 PM

I have used the Full Bores. Cut to 29 inches for a 28.5 DL bow with a 100 grain nibb up front. Flew great.

wilkersonhunter · 12-22-2011, 09:48 PM

has anyone shot them for outdoor 3d yet?

asa1485 · 12-22-2011, 11:30 PM

All season this year.