blade vs limb driven drop away

alaz · 12-30-2011, 10:18 AM

I currently shoot a limb driver and love it, but was thinking of going back to a blade. I picked up a used blade and was looking at it and realized the diameter shafts I use will cause fletching contact at the base of the vane.

Are blades more forgiving...more accurate is what I really mean, and how do you adjust for this contact? The more I look at it the more I lean toward a limb driver or limb driven rest.

wilkersonhunter · 12-30-2011, 10:38 PM

i like my limbdriver rest its not micro adjust but when i get it locked down i am good to go. i just wish they had that feature on it. It would make walk back tuning a lot easier

The G · 12-30-2011, 10:53 PM

That small amount of contact is normal. Make sure to use it **** feather up, eyeball and don't worry about it, do you think reo wilde doesnt have any contact with his super thin X10's? (if thats the arrow he still uses lol).

MickeyBee · 12-31-2011, 12:24 AM

The liz is the way to go but has some limitations. Just got done setting up a couple of TripWire drop aways with my home-made version of a 50% containment liz and took them out for a test ride tonite.......NICE!!!!

Gonna use them for everything from now on!!!!

alaz · 12-31-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wilkersonhunter

i like my limbdriver rest its not micro adjust but when i get it locked down i am good to go. i just wish they had that feature on it. It would make walk back tuning a lot easier

That is why I am thinking of trying out the Pro Drop AAE. Still debating though.

alaz · 12-31-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyBee

The liz is the way to go but has some limitations. Just got done setting up a couple of TripWire drop aways with my home-made version of a 50% containment liz and took them out for a test ride tonite.......NICE!!!!

Gonna use them for everything from now on!!!!

I liked the trip wire...I just felt that I would get inconsistent contact every so often.
I would love to see pics of what you did.

alaz · 12-31-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The G

That small amount of contact is normal. Make sure to use it **** feather up, eyeball and don't worry about it, do you think reo wilde doesnt have any contact with his super thin X10's? (if thats the arrow he still uses lol).

I am sure he gets contact as do all the pros...yet this is what they choose. I just wonder what makes them more "consistent" then a limbdriver. I think it would be very difficult to have the same type of contact shot after shot, arrow after arrow. If vanes are slightly off, nocks not perfect aligned, etc. I just think a drop away that uses a blade (pro-drop/ limb driver) would be more forgiving.

Brown Hornet · 12-31-2011, 10:07 AM

Like the G said....if you setup a blade rest and your arrow correctly that amount of contact is not a factor. In fact if you set it up correctly you shouldn't or won't have the contact that your appears that it is going to have.

I have NEVER had a setup with a dropaway on it that was as forgiving or shot as good as a well tuned and setup bow with a blade rest on it. They shot good...but they aren't as forgiving and I can make a blade setup shoot tighter groups.

MickeyBee · 12-31-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alaz

I would love to see pics of what you did.

A lot of banging the back end of a .2" drill on a piece of .020" full hard SS spring steel into a block of wood followed by some perimeter work curtesy of a cheap drum sander mounted in a drill press and then slotted with a dremmel diamond c/o tool. Last major step was to cut off the buisness end of the old launcher with the remainder to be used as a clamp. Played with the slot (and V cut) till it felt like it had the same resistance as my Pro Tuner spring.

jfuller17 · 01-01-2012, 08:22 AM

Nice idea!! My only complaint on the blades is falling off shooting FITA in the wind. I started using a doodle since it has two blades that seem to cradle it better. Was also looking into the brite site blade with the 3-D mount anyone have any experience with that?

alaz · 01-01-2012, 11:10 AM

thanks for the pic...looks great.

I am sure a blade when set up correctly is great. I just got this idea of contact in my head esp. with smaller diameter blades. I know brite site offers blades for that.

I would like to hear what others say about the brite site 3d blade as well.

alaz · 01-02-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jfuller17

Nice idea!! My only complaint on the blades is falling off shooting FITA in the wind. I started using a doodle since it has two blades that seem to cradle it better. Was also looking into the brite site blade with the 3-D mount anyone have any experience with that?

I also like the bodoodle...any negatives to that?
Anyone see the AeroRest by Firenocks, any thoughts on that as well?

jfuller17 · 01-02-2012, 11:27 AM

So far I have been using the doodle on my spot bow and its been just fine and pretty simple to set-up. I like the dual blades for support. Sometimes the vanes hit your cheek a little different depending on ATA and string angle because you have to shoot **** vane down. Put its not bad.

Brown Hornet · 01-03-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyBee

A lot of banging the back end of a .2" drill on a piece of .020" full hard SS spring steel into a block of wood followed by some perimeter work curtesy of a cheap drum sander mounted in a drill press and then slotted with a dremmel diamond c/o tool. Last major step was to cut off the buisness end of the old launcher with the remainder to be used as a clamp. Played with the slot (and V cut) till it felt like it had the same resistance as my Pro Tuner spring.

That looks good....better get to work on another one now so your not screwed when that guy Murphy shows up.

Brown Hornet · 01-03-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jfuller17

Nice idea!! My only complaint on the blades is falling off shooting FITA in the wind. I started using a doodle since it has two blades that seem to cradle it better. Was also looking into the brite site blade with the 3-D mount anyone have any experience with that?

You shouldn't have anymore problems with the arrow falling off in the wind. IF you have a solid steady draw. I have shot in some crazy winds and don't have any trouble getting drawn back and not having the arrow fall off. Even more so since I am not shooting giant arrows. If your shooting fatter arrows use a wider blade. I was shooting my XJammer27s outside the other day. It was windy as crap and I was using a standard size blade not a wide blade.

All the guys shooting FITA World Cup events are shooting in windier conditions then the avg shoot or day at the range since they are usually shot off an ocean or bay....they don't have problems with the arrow falling off. I remember Braden G, and a buddy of mine shot a FITA one day and the winds were pretty steady at 30 mph....with gust that would blow you from one target to the next one over. Braden said he hadn't seen wind that bad shooting in forever. Not one of us was having arrow falling off issues.

The 3D Tuner head is ok....some like it. I bought one to hunt with a few years back.....didn't use it long and I wouldn't want to use one for target.

jfuller17 · 01-03-2012, 12:47 PM

What was it you didnt like about that head?

Brown Hornet · 01-03-2012, 03:53 PM

Other then the benefit of the arrow not falling off....there is no advantage over a regular blade. For me it doesn't shoot as good and it doesn't react the same way a blade does, which totally defeats the purpose of shooting a blade rest in the place. If your not going to shoot a blade...then shoot a dropaway or something else. This is nothing more then a Jerry Rig IMO

Shoot the correct blade....and or sure up your draw and it doesn't matter what the conditions are outside. The wind isn't going to blow your arrow off the rest.

MickeyBee · 01-03-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brown Hornet

That looks good....better get to work on another one now so your not screwed when that guy Murphy shows up.

Me and Murphy go way back......

made a second spring for just that occasion but, with my luck, the Trip Wire will fail before the spring does.

Gator eye · 01-04-2012, 08:26 AM

Blade all the way, no moving parts nothing to break

If your blade is to thin your arrow will fall off easily. To stiff and you might run into contact problems, it's not hard to figure out.

wilkersonhunter · 01-06-2012, 06:26 AM

i guess just call me old fashioned. i will just stick with my limb driver rest. it can surely out shoot me.

MeanV2 · 01-09-2012, 12:11 PM

I've shot the Limb Driver for 5 years and I know I have setup 100's. IMO there is nothing better with everything considered.

Dan

BowTech DAve · 01-11-2012, 10:10 AM

I'm with Dan, my Limbdriver has served me well in both hunting and tournaments throughout the years! And you don't have worry about the wind with them. As far as which is better, try them both and see what you like! I honestly think it is a preference thing and what your equipment likes.

Good luck on you decision!
Dave

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wicked ridge · 01-11-2012, 01:05 PM

Removed my limb driver and put my doodle game dropper on set the spring
so it holds the arrow up at full draw seems to work fine i think i will stick with the the kentucky made rest.

Brown Hornet · 01-14-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BowTech DAve

I'm with Dan, my Limbdriver has served me well in both hunting and tournaments throughout the years! And you don't have worry about the wind with them. As far as which is better, try them both and see what you like! I honestly think it is a preference thing and what your equipment likes.

Good luck on you decision!
Dave

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You guys need to get over the wind thing with a blade rest....shoot the correct blade and draw your bow under control and correctly and drawing the bow with a blade isn't an issue even in the wind..... Otherwise all the videos on YouTube of the FITA shoots would be nothing but people fighting to get their bows drawn back.

If you like a drop away that's great...good for you. But don't blame a rest for shooter issues.

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bowhunterkdc · 01-14-2012, 10:17 AM

I use a limb driver on both my tournement bow and my hunting bow and have not had a problem with either one. Can't go wrong with Vaportrail rests.

Paheadhunter · 01-15-2012, 11:12 AM

Very interesting points from both sides here. I've never used a blade rest enough to get completely comfortable with one. I do like limbdriver rests. Have them on all but one of my bows and I plan to put the pro v on my hunting rig this year. Maybe someday I'll take the time and set up a now correctly with a blade rest. I understand the advantage to one. But for now I'll stick withy limbdrivers. They've been easy to set up and I have never had any issues with them

wilkersonhunter · 01-20-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paheadhunter

Very interesting points from both sides here. I've never used a blade rest enough to get completely comfortable with one. I do like limbdriver rests. Have them on all but one of my bows and I plan to put the pro v on my hunting rig this year. Maybe someday I'll take the time and set up a now correctly with a blade rest. I understand the advantage to one. But for now I'll stick withy limbdrivers. They've been easy to set up and I have never had any issues with them

It seems to me that the people that has used the limb driver rest has had no problems with them so why would a person want to change something that isnt broke?

I like my limb driver rest for both 3d and hunting. simple to use and set up

JDX-- · 01-20-2012, 11:07 AM

Most folks that run into problems with the arrows falling off of the blades are either running to weak of a blade or they have it set up to flat.

MickeyBee · 01-26-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeyBee

The liz is the way to go but has some limitations. Just got done setting up a couple of TripWire drop aways with my home-made version of a 50% containment liz and took them out for a test ride tonite.......NICE!!!!

Gonna use them for everything from now on!!!!

Actually, thats not true anymore. Had one break tonite.

Back to the drawing board.......

MeanV2 · 01-26-2012, 06:39 PM

Tripwire? I have seen more than a few problems with that rest

Dan

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Originally Posted by MickeyBee

Actually, thats not true anymore. Had one break tonite.

Back to the drawing board.......

alaz · 01-26-2012, 06:53 PM

Just got the AAE ProDrop. I have not set it up yet, but it is very nice. I will most likely have that on my next bow.

MickeyBee · 01-27-2012, 11:33 AM

After removing the home made lizzard and installing the OEM unit, I noticed that the rest was not dropping fast enough and may have even needed contact to get it to drop. Just might have to give the concept one more chance.

alaz · 06-17-2012, 07:46 AM

Still have a limb driver.
But I am considering the Firenock AeroRest
or spot hogg Edge.
The AeroRest can be shot without the top "finger". The micro-adjust version should be ready soon.
I like the idea of adjusting the tension on each side of the arrow, the free floating ceramic balls, the minimal points of contact with the arrow. I just do not like shooting **** vane down, I get some contact with the hen vane on my big chin!

Any thoughts out there on the Aerorest?

MeanV2 · 06-17-2012, 08:22 AM

A lot of rests have improved over the last few years and new rests on the market give lots of choices. While there are things I don't like about the Limb Driver it is still one of the Best options out there.

Dan

alaz · 06-17-2012, 08:45 AM

I think limb drivers are great...just wish they had micro adj, and attached to the lower limb.

MeanV2 · 06-17-2012, 09:00 AM

The Micro adjust is not that big of a deal to me. it usually just makes the rest heavier and more expensive. I have never saw much of an advantage when tuning.
I do wish they made a model to attach to the lower limb as the most trouble I have experienced with the rest is attaching to the top limb with an HHA, Tight Spot, etc. It just gets crowded

Dan

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Originally Posted by alaz

I think limb drivers are great...just wish they had micro adj, and attached to the lower limb.

alaz · 06-17-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MeanV2

The Micro adjust is not that big of a deal to me. it usually just makes the rest heavier and more expensive. I have never saw much of an advantage when tuning.
I do wish they made a model to attach to the lower limb as the most trouble I have experienced with the rest is attaching to the top limb with an HHA, Tight Spot, etc. It just gets crowded

Dan

I wouldnt mind just a windage micro adjust. Sometimes I have problems just getting those little adjustments.

Gig49 · 06-18-2012, 02:57 PM

Love my Limb Driver, so when your on a good thing, stick with it

Firenock · 07-01-2012, 10:56 PM

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Standard, standard with Camo
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J.A.G. · 07-02-2012, 03:21 PM

we've had Limbdrivers and they are great, until they fail. Hub had one fail at a tournament, now he only uses a launcher - either a Trophy taker ss pro or the Spot Hog Edge. But on his hunting rig is still a limbdriver.