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Old 03-05-2012, 12:35 AM   #1
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Default High Fence = Hunting?

I'm currently involved in discussion on the other site on this. How do you guys feel about it? IMO if there's a fence, it aint right to call it hunting. But I only own a few acres.
Does size matter? A fence is a fence. If it does'nt, why not just remove the fence?
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:11 PM   #2
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The thread over there was locked down. I'm disapointed more hunters can't seperate themselves from ANY fenced "hunt". Call it a harvest and I'm fine with it, we've done in cows, pigs and chickens and put them in the freezer. There was no part of it I would call HUNTING. Stop supporting it as hunting, it is'nt. It should never be spoken of in the same subject as hunting. We cage trap alot of critters to keep them out of the garden, and I don't consider that hunting either. Let's stop the bull****, and stop supporting what is'nt right just because it's currently legal. Alot of stuff is legal, but it doesn't make it right.
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Amen red i trapped a mouse i wasnt hunting


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Old 03-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #5
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Like when we elect a Senator, who gets a retirement plan as soon as he's in. It's legal, but it is'nt right. OT a bit, but you understand. Stop accepting **** that is'nt right just because there is a loophole in the law for them to hide behind. We need to police ourselves. Hunting is not in a Union. We don't need to protect the ****heads just to save hunting.
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Like when we elect a Senator, who gets a retirement plan as soon as he's in. It's legal, but it is'nt right. OT a bit, but you understand. Stop accepting **** that is'nt right just because there is a loophole in the law for them to hide behind. We need to police ourselves. Hunting is not in a Union. We don't need to protect the ****heads just to save hunting.
Couldn't of said it better!!!!If it's got a fence it's a Farm Animal or Ranch Critter as you good old boys call it!!!!!Try hunting on some of the locals farms here and see what you get?????? Red Your right on Old Mate!!!!!
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What is FBSA?

My idea of hunting is what I am doing when I canít find my car keys.
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Another offshoot group of ultra great, fantastic archers who used to hang around here. I think it was Fantastic Bow Shooters Association or something like that, LOL. I paid alot to get in.
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Are you crapin me fantastic bow shooters thats pretty funny


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Old 03-08-2012, 04:29 AM   #10
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:02 PM   #11
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Fanastic Bow Shooters Association, yup. Some good guys were in it. All were members here prior to the formation of the FBSA, The web site folded as far as I know, but a few of us are still here. LOL. Thanks Chris....
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Highjacked my own thread LOL, Back OT.
High Fence = harvest
No Fence = hunting
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Im changin my prior statement red those damn mice keep gettim into my sunflowers seeds now im humting them but fence = harvest or jarvest if you have big fingers



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I'll put my 2 cents in this one. well, i think it has a lot to do with the size of the ranch. Imo and only my opinion is that if the ranch is over 1000 acres or bigger it really doesnt matter cause a deer is a master at hiding from any predator. Most people make the misconception that if a ranch has a fence its some sort of a advantage. and that might be true to a certain extent but like i said before, take a mature deer and put it in a 1000 fenced in acres and see how long it takes the average hunter to kill it.
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True plus ive seen deer hop over pretty tall fences


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I'm with wilkerson on this one. if the fenced area is huge and most likely larger than the animals home range then what is the difference. On the other hand if the area is 50 acers and has 30 trophies walking around on it I would call that fish in a barrel. If a stream is stocked do we no longer call it fishing?

I would consider the use of many game cameras a bigger advantage to the hunter than having a high fence around 10,000 acers. but I use a game camera all the same. not really for scouting locations more to get a look at what is out there and identify the shooters and the ones that are yet to become shooters.

I have never hunted in a fence and don't intend to.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:33 PM   #18
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how about fat boys shooting archery.
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Wilkerson, I do agree with you on the size. Hate to admitt it but size does matter LOL. A 10,000 acre ranch is alot different than a 20 acre game farm. I don't know why anyone would fence 10,000 acres, or how anyone could afford to. To fence in deer would require a hell of a fence. Not just a few strands of barbed wire like for cows.
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If he cant' jump the fence than it's a pet. If the habitat is controled than the Rack is un natural.These bucks should not be allowed in BnC. JMO
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I'll put my 2 cents in this one. well, i think it has a lot to do with the size of the ranch. Imo and only my opinion is that if the ranch is over 1000 acres or bigger it really doesnt matter cause a deer is a master at hiding from any predator. Most people make the misconception that if a ranch has a fence its some sort of a advantage. and that might be true to a certain extent but like i said before, take a mature deer and put it in a 1000 fenced in acres and see how long it takes the average hunter to kill it.



So size really does matter...... I knew she was lyin
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If he cant' jump the fence than it's a pet. If the habitat is controled than the Rack is un natural.These bucks should not be allowed in BnC. JMO


I agree with this.........if the deer is fed or are raised or bred for size, horns, or with any type of human interferance it is a penned animal and shouldn't count in any book.
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I was at the Iowa State fair last year and could of shot this trophey elk !

I really wanted to shoot this critter and be the best hunter here , no doubt about that , just look at this beast !

But beings the ethical hunter that I am , I passed !
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I was at the Iowa State fair last year and could of shot this trophey elk !

I really wanted to shoot this critter and be the best hunter here , no doubt about that , just look at this beast !

But beings the ethical hunter that I am , I passed !
Did they have a cat show at the state fair????We don't call our state fair that it's known as the Ekka!!!!Short for exibition fair
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Guess I should of shot that elk and made the papers , as by now I'd be in some nuthouse !

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Guess I should of shot that elk and made the papers , as by now I'd be in some nuthouse !

Oh you mean your not the Carpshooter from Happy Meadows Asylum????Could have fooled me???
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First off, I've done 95+% of my 55 bowhunting years DIY, Public access so I KNOW about fair chase. 10 years ago I researched High Fence Hunting & after a year, decided to try it. My 1st Bowhunt was on a little over 1000 acre fenced ranch. Having lived in GREAT Whitetail country all my life I was & am not interested in shooting a Whitetail in a HF. I WAS & AM interested in Bowhunting animals not native to the US & places where I cannot afford to hunt them in their native land. My main reason going HF was I could do it in the off season when Deer, Turkey & other North American Biggame seasons are closed & I could be in the field hunting more. 2nd, was the thought of chasing an animal normally out of my reach $$$ wise. I chose to hunt places called day lease, where you pay a flat fee for x number of days to hunt, with lodging but no additional fees IF you kill something. They do not guarantee you to even get a shot, just hunting of their land. I have Bowhunted 1000, 1200 & 4000 acre ranches & enjoyed each & every hunt. NO, I have not killed something on every hunt as many seem to think you will. I've also hunted Hogs on several of these places & a few others that are exclusive hog operations & a couple Hog places are only 500 acres (low fence). No matter, Hogs don't stay anyplace they don't want to & since the fences are NOT BURIED, they can leave anytime.
I know many would NEVER consider tainting their I AM ONLY A FAIR CHASE hunter with a HF but IF some of these hunters would try it, I think they would find it to be very enjoyable. BUT, I know that ain't gonna happen. What I have found is many of those SAME hunters are placing attractants, food plots, food sources JUST to draw animals into a shooting are. EVEN in states where it is ILLIGAL. The reply is (mostly), Oh, I don't hunt by them, they are just to get trail cam pics for my HIT LIST. Thats a new Bowhunting term that was not around my 1st 45 years of Bowhunting.
I've NEVER gun hunted a biggame animal BUT take my hat off to those who are successful, same as the crossbow hunters. As I've said, I've been fortunate to have hunted soooo many Biggame animals most will only dream of. Example, I've been on about 30 Elk & Mule deer Bowhunts (2 guided), 15 Black Bear (6 guided by law), 2 Caribou (guided by law), Whitetail in 13 States-all DIY, Public land but 1 & a ton of other DIY Bowhunts for various animals. No, I would not hunt the put & take trophy fee places-that is a guarantee shoot/kill. Anyway, it's an argument that will never be solved but yes, (my opinion) there is a place for it. Check out my album & you'll see I have been blessed with great Bowhunting success (If you call a kill success). Lots of public land & DIY for sure.. I did my 1st ever DIY, puClick image for larger version

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High fence is cheating. Like shooting fish in a barrel in my eyes.
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You know that High Fence hunting has been going on for 1000's of years!!!!!!Look what the ancent chinese built to keep the Rabbits out!!!!!

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see we Australians have a answer for everything!!!!!
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High fence is cheating. Like shooting fish in a barrel in my eyes.
Have you ever hunted high fence? I went to a ranch in Tennessee to hunt some wild hogs a couple years ago and it was 2000 plus acres and it took me the better part of the weekend to kill a nice boar. Go hunt a mature whitetail and let me know if its like shooting fish in a barrel.

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I'm currently involved in discussion on the other site on this. How do you guys feel about it? IMO if there's a fence, it aint right to call it hunting. But I only own a few acres.
Does size matter? A fence is a fence. If it does'nt, why not just remove the fence?
My take is hunting is hunting ,as long as it's legal then it's fine by me.There is enough bad press against hunter's we dont need to fight among ourself's about what is right.
Do whats legal have fun and get a huntin.............
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I just read this and can't belive I'm really this funny!!!Nice Work Westy
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