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Old 06-04-2007, 09:30 PM   #1
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To answer and avoid rumors, As most of you know Martin first produced a compound bow with no cams in the limbs in 1974. In 1976 we discontinued the bow in order to lisence with Allen to produce the standard compound when we bought Howatt Archery. The Kam Act did not fall under the scope of the Allen Patent.
Since then we have worked on different designs to produce a new bow with no cams. The 2008 line will include a new bow that has no cams in the limbs as well as many other features.
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The first half of 2007 has been a record year for us with an increase of 25% in sales. It has been a busy time. We thank you all for the interest and support.
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No cams in the limbs. No cams at all? MonsterMartin?
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That's going to be interesting to see...

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Sounds like another freakcurve to me.

"I started Archery History and Archery Talk to give archers a good true source of information, to have archers ask and answer questions and solve problems, and to see many of the bows and ideas from the past. It is also a way for me to give back the sport.
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If things had only stayed this way.
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Sounds like another freakcurve to me.

"I started Archery History and Archery Talk to give archers a good true source of information, to have archers ask and answer questions and solve problems, and to see many of the bows and ideas from the past. It is also a way for me to give back the sport.
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If things had only stayed this way.
I wonder if he even read that before clicking "submit reply"
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thats his signature I'm pretty sure.

Very possible that it is a Oneida "knock off" then again after looking at the Sims bow, and this it sounds like there is a lot of intrest in moving to the "next big thing" and since patents expire after 20 years we may start seeing a lot of the old designs coming back into play only with signfigantly improved features due to technological advances
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thats his signature I'm pretty sure.

Very possible that it is a Oneida "knock off" then again after looking at the Sims bow, and this it sounds like there is a lot of intrest in moving to the "next big thing" and since patents expire after 20 years we may start seeing a lot of the old designs coming back into play only with signfigantly improved features due to technological advances
I have something thats been bugging me......why does everyone say that MONSTER bows are new and hot and this and that......are they not a Oneida knock off???
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Did Oneida make a camless? I thought they had cams. The pics I seen of Monsterbows don't have any.
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I have something thats been bugging me......why does everyone say that MONSTER bows are new and hot and this and that......are they not a Oneida knock off???
I think they basically "tweak" a Oneida and possibly update one or 2 pieces. By doing this they greatly improve the performance while keeping the insanely smooth draw that Onieda is known for...

I've never shot one but I've yet to hear anything negative about a Onienda
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:29 PM   #10
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I think they basically "tweak" a Oneida and possibly update one or 2 pieces. By doing this they greatly improve the performance while keeping the insanely smooth draw that Onieda is known for...

I've never shot one but I've yet to hear anything negative about a Onienda
you do mean Monster right???

cause there is alot of negative I myself can tell you about Onieda
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This was on AT also....


Only the outboard limbs are similar to an Oneida....nothing else! Monsterbows have less in common with Oneida than any other two manufacturers out there. The Monster Bow uses a shoot-thru cable system, 8.5+ brace height, 70 to 95% adjustable let-off, 26.5-31.5" draw adjustment with no modules, no bow press needed, and NO CAMS
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I think they basically "tweak" a Oneida and possibly update one or 2 pieces. By doing this they greatly improve the performance while keeping the insanely smooth draw that Onieda is known for...

I've never shot one but I've yet to hear anything negative about a Onienda
Here is yore first one .....

They fall apart.
Usely start ta loosening up. I have never heard anything that good about them.
a friend bought one amidst my protest 6 yrs ago and yup it did just what i told him.

Hate ta pop yore bubble Dred.
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Here is yore first one .....

They fall apart.
Usely start ta loosening up. I have never heard anything that good about them.
a friend bought one amidst my protest 6 yrs ago and yup it did just what i told him.

Hate ta pop yore bubble Dred.
yeah I meant Monster, sorry. I've heard a lot of issues with the "loosening" is how they term for it I think.
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and how is this....................
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a knock off of this......
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isn't a knock off of this????
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its all in the limbs buddy :P
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it cant be the same....one has a rollor guard......
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The ole "that is a knock off" thing is a pointless argument. Everything is a "knock off" of the original something.
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The jennings uni-star was a bow with no cams on the limbs, just 1 cam at or behind your hand, research this one & pull a pic up if you can find 1
This was a bow with no recoil i shot one!

And smokes dont knock an onida they are awesome to shoot i had the areo-force X-80 & the strike eagle!

I got this big boy with my strike eagle!
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The jennings uni-star was a bow with no cams on the limbs, just 1 cam at or behind your hand, research this one & pull a pic up if you can find 1
This was a bow with no recoil i shot one!

And smokes dont knock an onida they are awesome to shoot i had the areo-force X-80 & the strike eagle!

I got this big boy with my strike eagle!
oneida=junk
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Thay aint junk, even if i sold both of them.
They are just hard to keep up.
You have to be good at tuning to keep check on them.
But they were pretty solid when shooting.
Not very good in tournaments, One blew a string on me in the middle of one,i had to quit.
But a bow is a bow!
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Notice the careful wording. No cams on the limbs but didn't say no cams.
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Notice the careful wording. No cams on the limbs but didn't say no cams.
I did notice.
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Was posted that it will have 2 limbs and 2 cams......


Isn't it a little early in the year for the archery sherades games?????
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Was posted that it will have 2 limbs and 2 cams......


Isn't it a little early in the year for the archery sherades games?????
nope everyone is trying to top the silly tricks that mathews does.......
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nope everyone is trying to top the silly tricks that mathews does.......
Mathews is the worst......


At least Martin will probably start showing pictures of bits and pieces of the bow a couple months earlier than anyone else...
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No cams in the limbs. No cams at all? MonsterMartin?
If you read the entire posting there are two cams in use.
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Sounds to me like a martin Blade Runner. Do not start knocking them I love mine and it is my number 1 hunting bow. I just ordered a Monsterbow. What I can see it is not a knock off. There is only one thing the same on them. They both are lever limb bows. That is it.
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thats his signature I'm pretty sure.

Very possible that it is a Oneida "knock off" then again after looking at the Sims bow, and this it sounds like there is a lot of intrest in moving to the "next big thing" and since patents expire after 20 years we may start seeing a lot of the old designs coming back into play only with signfigantly improved features due to technological advances
who the heck would build an oneida knock off on purpose?
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an oneida is the only bow that i have been around that made me want a pair of earpluggs. loudest bow I have seen. but did have decent speed.
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Pic's from the 80's
With the jennings unastar!
They probable copyed or came close to the design of one of these!
Wont they some wild lookin things, us older fellers use to shoot!
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That Oneida is one funky looking bow.
Kind of like the Guardian/Commander when they first came out.
I never saw anyone holding one of those funky Oneidas, just in pics.

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Well, I just got word that Sterner Duttera is coming out with something SO totally different than anything out in the marketplace today...that it will turn some heads.

They are being pretty secretive of this "new bow" that you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement just to look at the CAD drawings, Fabrication, and Assembly proofs.

I am not sure when it is going to launch, but I am already first in line to get the BETA when it is ready.

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Well, I just got word that Sterner Duttera is coming out with something SO totally different than anything out in the marketplace today...that it will turn some heads.

They are being pretty secretive of this "new bow" that you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement just to look at the CAD drawings, Fabrication, and Assembly proofs.

I am not sure when it is going to launch, but I am already first in line to get the BETA when it is ready.

www.sternerduttera.com

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