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Old 06-05-2007, 06:44 PM   #1
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after seeing this going to rethink about getting one
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:44 PM   #2
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I have never used a WB, but just looking at them, I don't like them
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:50 PM   #3
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I have never used a WB, but just looking at them, I don't like them
yuppy just ask the puppy franky....hey switched to the Rip cord and says he will never shoot anything else.....
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:53 PM   #4
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I do not care what anyone else thinks. I know they are the best hunting rest on the market bar none. And come September I will have mine back on my XT. Now I hope you will all have a great day.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:58 PM   #5
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I do not care what anyone else thinks. I know they are the best hunting rest on the market bar none. And come September I will have mine back on my XT. Now I hope you will all have a great day.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:13 PM   #6
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Nope its proven.

That video is with an old style WB and with an untuned PSE.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:02 PM   #7
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I use a WB. Why? because I tried it and it works.
At least out to 40yds, which is all I need.

But, even if I had not...

What does almost every single professional hunter use in almost every hunting video production, whether sponsored by Carolina Archery or not? The WB.

The only shows I have seen of people NOT using the WB are shows where specifically another rest manufacturer is paying them to shoot something else.

There is no better testament to the usefulness of a product that having people who count on having every shot be their best to put food on their table and gas in their cards, that they use a particular product even when not paid to do so.

People can say whatever they want about how something looks or what they think it does to arrow flight and/or speed. Not that PSE, who sells the Phantom would have a vested interest in showing the WB in the worst possible light...


Shoot it and decide for yourself. Don't let a video make that choice for you.
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Gee, what does everyone think a drop away rest does, there's more keeping the arrow on its original path with a WB that anything else. All I saw was a rest that provided less drag that everyone likes to preach it has. In order to truly making an argument against the WB using this footage there would have to be the same footage of the same (how did he put that?) untuned PSE from the same vantage point with a different rest. Anyone ever involved with testing will tell you that the only way to competently evaluate a product is to first establish the standard. So, I must say that this only proves that the WB is now the standard. And everything else can not be rated against this standard until tested and proven.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:27 AM   #9
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doesnt really matter, tuned or untuned.....the fact is that when that video came out MANY moons ago....every PSE guy and thier brother claimed the bow was untuned......

every person myself included believes that the stuff they shoot is the best.....if they didnt then I would think there was something wrong.....why would you settle for your second best???

Did you marry the guy or girl that you kinda love??? Or did you marry the person you were head over heels about???

its all the same.....

so you know what shoot what makes you more confident.....
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:52 AM   #10
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That video has been around a long time... Have you guys seen the comparison video of the drop away from PSE ? It clearly looks like the vanes hit the rest... If you look closely at the video from the Vapor Trail/Limb Driver web site for their rest it clearly looks like the vanes hit the rest.

There's nothing more exciting (not) than having an arrow fall off your rest at full draw because you're moving in a tree stand following a moving target and have the bow touch your stand or a branch or something.
Believe me, there's nothing worse or more aggrivating.
I use a WB for hunting now. I used to use a Quick-Tune prong style. For 3D/Target those type of rests are great. For hunting I prefer a WB and at 20-30 yards they work just fine.

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Old 06-06-2007, 12:21 PM   #11
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most of the people who claim the WB is no good ( not all but most) have not even ever tried it... I can see the target guys shooting spots and what not wanting a different rest, but for hunting it is one of the best.... personally it really makes not one bit of difference if at 40 yards my WB group is 1/2 inch bigger then a drop away group, not for hunting anyway...
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:29 PM   #12
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I do not care what anyone else thinks. I know they are the best hunting rest on the market bar none. And come September I will have mine back on my XT. Now I hope you will all have a great day.
I'm with him... won't use anything else on my hunting bow
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:49 PM   #13
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I love the WB!!! However, there is a new rest on the horizon, one that uses magnets. There was an article about it in the latest Popular Science magazine. It was developed by a hunter.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/technol...cbccdrcrd.html

Interesting to see what comes of this!
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yup the air rest.. been seeing them for about a year now... looked at em ina couple shops but never bought one
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:21 PM   #15
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I wouldn't say for certain that that PSE wasn't tuned. True, the rest wasn't perpendicular to the arrow, but the fact that the arrow did a lot of whipping going through the rest just proves (to may eyes anyway) that an arrow flexes vertically while leaving a bow.
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I love the WB!!! However, there is a new rest on the horizon, one that uses magnets. There was an article about it in the latest Popular Science magazine. It was developed by a hunter.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/technol...cbccdrcrd.html

Interesting to see what comes of this!
From what I understand, the insert that goes in the front of the arrow is heavy, the arrows length has to be right on the money to work right, and the arrow takes several seconds to "stabilize" after any movement at all.

There is a rest that I think could probably hurt whisker biscuit sales. It is called the Catawba Still Shot. It has 3 sets of "whiskers" that contact the arrow but not the fletchings.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:02 AM   #17
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From what I understand, the insert that goes in the front of the arrow is heavy, the arrows length has to be right on the money to work right, and the arrow takes several seconds to "stabilize" after any movement at all.

There is a rest that I think could probably hurt whisker biscuit sales. It is called the Catawba Still Shot. It has 3 sets of "whiskers" that contact the arrow but not the fletchings.
NAP has a rest similar called the Quicktune 360. It has 3 'pads' that support the arrow. I've seen them and they seem OK but never tried one.

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NAP has a rest similar called the Quicktune 360. It has 3 'pads' that support the arrow. I've seen them and they seem OK but never tried one.

Ron
I used the NAP360. The negative is that if your arrows are not set-up exactly the same and every shot exactly the same you have a chance of hitting a vane on only one or two of the bristle sets which can not the flight a bit. The WB insures the same contact every time and your only worry really is setting up to miss the black bristles in the bottom center (like the 360 post).

People make too much about the contact.
Inconsistent contact is bad, consistent contact is not.
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The flaw in the Air rest is that you need to wait at full draw until the arrow stops wiggling. It moves quite a bit until it settles.
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