Prestige or Apex 7

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 08:40 PM

What is your take on the better fit for a 3D bow?

I was leaning toward the prestige but I can get a good deal on an Apex 7 too. Decisions decisions.....

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

What is your take on the better fit for a 3D bow?

I was leaning toward the prestige but I can get a good deal on an Apex 7 too. Decisions decisions.....

what is your draw length??

BowhuntnHoosier · 08-14-2007, 08:42 PM

I personally without a doubt go with the A7. It just fits me better. You should definately shoot them both alot.

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BowhuntnHoosier

I personally without a doubt go with the A7. It just fits me better. You should definately shoot them both alot.

whats his draw length?????

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 08:45 PM

27.5", geeze Bowman take it easy on me.

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 08:47 PM

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27.5", geeze Bowman take it easy on me.

I was directing at BHH, he is going off half corked again......

now what type of shooting will you be doing w/it?? just 3d?

08-14-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

27.5", geeze Bowman take it easy on me.

I bet you'll LOVE the Prestige for 3D! It's a smoker!

I shoot one in 28.5 and love it.

I had an A7, which I got pissed at and sold too early...I will have another but it will be an indoor bow.......The Prestige rules outdoors...

BowhuntnHoosier · 08-14-2007, 08:48 PM

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I was directing at BHH, he is going off half corked again......

now what type of shooting will you be doing w/it?? just 3d?

Oh would you stop it. Just say Prestige and save us all from having to read all your posts.

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BowhuntnHoosier

Oh would you stop it. Just say Prestige and save us all from having to read all your posts.

instead how about we give the guy an intelligent responce based on info the he gives us to best set him up so that he gets the best results......

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 08:50 PM

Yeah, mainly for outdoor and indoor 3D, I may give it a go for spots but I don't know if I'll have the time to shoot both series this winter.

BowhuntnHoosier · 08-14-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

instead how about we give the guy an intelligent responce based on info the he gives us to best set him up so that he gets the best results......

The Prestige would be a real smoker for me at 29" but it just does not fit me at all. So the way I see it is shoot the one that feels best for you.

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

I bet you'll LOVE the Prestige for 3D! It's a smoker!

I shoot one in 28.5 and love it.

I had an A7, which I got pissed at and sold too early...I will have another but it will be an indoor bow.......The Prestige rules outdoors...

Nice setup 911, How long is your stab?

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

Yeah, mainly for outdoor and indoor 3D, I may give it a go for spots but I don't know if I'll have the time to shoot both series this winter.

so here is my answer and my reasons.....

in 3d, speed is not everything but it helps.....

you have a 27.5" draw........hmmmm like me....

I personally would go w/a Prestige at this point as you will never get near 300fps w/your short dino arms( i have the same problem) on an Apex7......

I had my prestige right at 300fps....27.5 inch draw, 61 pounds....320 grain arrow

The Prestige is an awsome 3d bow......its light enough to add weight where you want it.....

the Apex 7 or Conquest 4 for indoor spots.....

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 08:59 PM

24 inch flat black posten.......

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BowhuntnHoosier

The Prestige would be a real smoker for me at 29" but it just does not fit me at all. So the way I see it is shoot the one that feels best for you.

Thats the problem, being LH I don't have the luxury of shooting all the diff. models. The only LH bow @ proshops I can find is usually a Drenalin. It would be nice to try before you buy, but theres not much turn around for guys I guess to order one and then not have a buyer.

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

24 inch flat black posten.......

What do you think the FPS would the Prestige be at 70# @ 27.5"

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

What do you think the FPS would the Prestige be at 70# @ 27.5"

well with 61 pounds and a 320 grain arrow I am getting 300

I am 15 grains over so if you went w/a 350gr arrow....you might see 304 305.....MAYBE a BIG maybe.....

Why 70 lbs??

jcmorgan31 · 08-14-2007, 09:11 PM

Why shoot second best???

Get yourself a Scepter IV, slap mag limbs and nitrous "X" cams on it and don't look back.....

Sure, the zombified masses will make fun of you and call you a cool-aid drinking fanboy, but at least you'll be without plastic bushings and that old school cable guard thingy......

I had an A7 and didn't really like it. I liked the C4 much better.....

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmorgan31

Why shoot second best???

Get yourself a Scepter IV, slap mag limbs and nitrous "X" cams on it and don't look back.....

Sure, the zombified masses will make fun of you and call you a cool-aid drinking fanboy, but at least you'll be without plastic bushings and that old school cable guard thingy......

I had an A7 and didn't really like it. I liked the C4 much better.....

thats my thinking also.......thats why my spot bow is gonna be a C4

jcmorgan31 · 08-14-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

thats my thinking also.......thats why my spot bow is gonna be a C4

With my Conquest 4, using 80% let off, set at 64lbs, I was shooting 294fps with a 326g arrow.

With the A7, I was shooting around 60lbs with 65% letoff. Same arrow was around 290fps.

I was holding fewer lbs at full draw with the C4 and getting more speed. The C4 comes closer to shooting the advertised IBO speeds than any other Mathews bow....IMO of course....

Holy Smokes · 08-14-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

whats his draw length?????

Oh yeah patience is one of his greater virtrues.

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

well with 61 pounds and a 320 grain arrow I am getting 300

I am 15 grains over so if you went w/a 350gr arrow....you might see 304 305.....MAYBE a BIG maybe.....

Why 70 lbs??

I dunno, cause I can I guess, and that's what weight my XTs at. How much stiffer of a draw is the Prestige over and XT or Drenalin?

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmorgan31

With my Conquest 4, using 80% let off, set at 64lbs, I was shooting 294fps with a 326g arrow.

With the A7, I was shooting around 60lbs with 65% letoff. Same arrow was around 290fps.

I was holding fewer lbs at full draw with the C4 and getting more speed. The C4 comes closer to shooting the advertised IBO speeds than any other Mathews bow....IMO of course....

I think the Prestige would come pretty close also......Hey NY911 what you getting out of yours???

jcmorgan31 · 08-14-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

I dunno, cause I can I guess, and that's what weight my XTs at. How much stiffer of a draw is the Prestige over and XT or Drenalin?

You do realize that a 70 lb bow shooting a 350 grain arrow will shoot the same speed as a 60 lb bow shooting a 300 grain arrow????

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

I dunno, cause I can I guess, and that's what weight my XTs at. How much stiffer of a draw is the Prestige over and XT or Drenalin?

stiffer draw?? a bit....

its the grip or lack there of that you will need to get used too....

MY SUGGESTION to you is go w/60 lbs....that way you could shoot it indoor if you get in a pinch......

I also went w/65% let off.....it hold nicer too me......

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmorgan31

You do realize that a 70 lb bow shooting a 350 grain arrow will shoot the same speed as a 60 lb bow shooting a 300 grain arrow????

I didn't think it would be exactly the same, thatswhy I asked, but thats not why I was going to go w/ the 70#. I pull 70# comfortably and I thought it would be and easy transition between shooting my hunting setup and 3D setup during hunting season

08-14-2007, 09:31 PM

I have not crono'ed my Prestige - but it is the fasted thing I have ever shot....60 pounds with a 300 grain X- Cutter

I personally think it draws and holds nice...It's no Switchback, but it is NO Legacy.......

The grip is a bit thinner than the PERFECT grip on the Apex's

jcmorgan31 · 08-14-2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

I didn't think it would be exactly the same, thatswhy I asked, but thats not why I was going to go w/ the 70#. I pull 70# comfortably and I thought it would be and easy transition between shooting my hunting setup and 3D setup during hunting season

It will be within a couple fps. If you like 70lbs, go for it. Over time, you'll feel it in your elbow and shoulder. If you shoot 3D to stay in touch with your hunting set-up, then that is probably a great plan.

jcmorgan31 · 08-14-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

I have not crono'ed my Prestige - but it is the fasted thing I have ever shot....60 pounds with a 300 grain X- Cutter

I personally think it draws and holds nice...It's no Switchback, but it is NO Legacy.......

The grip is a bit thinner than the PERFECT grip on the Apex's

Another poor soul that hasn't ever wrapped his mitt around a Scepter IV riser....

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

I have not crono'ed my Prestige - but it is the fasted thing I have ever shot....60 pounds with a 300 grain X- Cutter

I personally think it draws and holds nice...It's no Switchback, but it is NO Legacy.......

The grip is a bit thinner than the PERFECT grip on the Apex's

and see I think the grip on the Apex is too fat......I think the grip on the prestige is where its at.....

BowhuntnHoosier · 08-14-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

I didn't think it would be exactly the same, thatswhy I asked, but thats not why I was going to go w/ the 70#. I pull 70# comfortably and I thought it would be and easy transition between shooting my hunting setup and 3D setup during hunting season

I can attest to this I am used to my XT at 70# when I bought my Ovation it is 50# max and I am having issues getting used to it. I think from now on I am going to buy bows that are 60# across the board.

08-14-2007, 09:35 PM

I shoot the Carter Evolution Plus - a wieght regulated release.

It triggers the same on my Switchback @ 70#/80% letoff as my 60# Prestige/65%

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

I shoot the Carter Evolution Plus - a wieght regulated release.

It triggers the same on my Switchback @ 70#/80% letoff as my 60# Prestige/65%

did it just work out that way or did you work it out on paper first?

08-14-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmorgan31

Another poor soul that hasn't ever wrapped his mitt around a Scepter IV riser....

Yes I have - RicksJames S4...did nothing for me...

08-14-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BOWMAN

did it just work out that way or did you work it out on paper first?

I thought about, tried it, and didnt punch myself in the mouth

BuckeyeRed · 08-14-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

I shoot the Carter Evolution Plus - a wieght regulated release.

It triggers the same on my Switchback @ 70#/80% letoff as my 60# Prestige/65%

That's a good point! I shoot my Evo + w/ myXT all the time, quick thinkin 911! Thanks

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

Yes I have - RicksJames S4...did nothing for me...

are all of the Martin grips sqaure like the pantera and bengal?? cause if they are.....I would never get used to that.....

08-14-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed

That's a good point! I shoot my Evo + w/ myXT all the time, quick thinkin 911! Thanks

Thats why I'm here my friend....

jcmorgan31 · 08-14-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

Yes I have - RicksJames S4...did nothing for me...

Must have been wearing a boxing glove then....

BUNNYMAN · 08-14-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ny911bowhunter

I thought about, tried it, and didnt punch myself in the mouth

I would have payed to see you trying the first time.......