Convert a bow that is....

Discussion in 'General Archery Forum' started by IChim2, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    a cam & 1/2 into a solo cam.... is it possible and what are all the things to concider other than strings/cables.I've seen some cam & 1/2's and if the same bow would have been a solo cam...i'd bought it.I bet someone along the line has done this and it worked.
     
  2. QSA

    QSA One eyed/Gutless wonder

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    will I can say this. I bought a hoyt ultra tec. Older one with a single cam, the guy changed it over to a twin cam (commander cams)
    It shoots great and I also have the single cam and strings to.
     

  3. Pinwheel1969

    Pinwheel1969 #1 THREAD KILLER

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    make sure the cams are going to clear the limbs at full draw. no machining or trimming is a good idea.. other than that alot of tinkering, Its been done.
     
  4. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    The reason i asked was that i have a couple darton mavericks and always wondered what it would be like to have one that was a solo cam.You don't know if you don't ask.I may be wrong but have often heard that hoyts and dartons cam&1/2 were similar.Someone correct me if i'm wrong.
     
  5. jetshowell

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    i am very interested in this topic and was wondering if there was anyway you could change the new hoyt cam and a half to a solo cam and what kind of cams would you use
     
  6. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    I have a 99' Executive Vegas that's a single cam...that cam and idler will fit the Mav limbs...It's not a very aggresive cam and it's slow as molasses in January...:laugh:
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  7. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    yes it is.....:laugh:
     
  8. red44

    red44 Senior Member

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    I believe the technology is pattented under Darton, Hoyt pays for it, calls they're version the cam and a half.
     
  9. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    Yeah...your vegas is similar to the "98"Cyclone i have(slow by todays standards..but it's a tack driver).I have a CP6 cam on my maverick which is pretty aggrevsive and i want to keep it....but would have to find an idlier wheel that would work with it.
     
  10. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    Yeah..i guess i didn't frase that very good.Rex has made a fortune off his cam patents and i've been a been a die hard Darton fan for almost 10yrs.I don't think hoyt pays them anything anymore...i think they settled that one.
     
  11. Dredly

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    Good luck, lots of people make "frankenstein" bows now a days. Heck Every Martin you get is one! I personally think its great.
     
  12. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    So you want to keep the lower cam and put an idler up top???
    I don't know what that would do...
     
  13. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    I spoke with a darton dealer and he said he has done this...The only thing he found that changed was that by changing to a round wheel the bow was a little smoother drawing...that was all..it still shot good and the speed stayed about the same and went on to say that basicly the mavericks are single cams...some call them cam & 1/2.....but there really a single cam bow.
     
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  14. brokenarrow

    brokenarrow Evil Genius

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    Did he say what idler to use??
    Or can you get an older Darton wheel??
     
  15. Record Keeper

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    I think Hoyt still pays Darton. BowTech pays Darton too, and I think that PSE and Darton have a sharing agreement.

    That said, I think you can convert a cam & 1/2 to a solo and vice versa. Make sure first that the cams clear the limb cutouts. There are two potential problems:

    1) Getting the correct string and cable lengths...you'll have to experiment a bit, and

    2) When you switch cams out, you never know what poundage you'll build and what draw length you'll end up with. It's a crap shoot.

    I did convert an older (say 1999 or 2000) Hoyt Aspen single cam to a cam.5 system. That was one sweet bow!
     
  16. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    I didn't even think to ask him what idler wheel he used...but i can find out one day next wk.I liked what he said about it drawing smoother.He's been a darton dealer for years and knows these bows inside and out.
     
  17. IChim2

    IChim2 IChim2 and he's a shooter

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    Your probably right about darton/hoyt...i read something on it but can't remember it all...thats why i said "i think D/Y settled that issue"...Hard to keep up with these companies.Also...your correct about the string/cables.He said that was the fun part.I think tinkering with bows is fun....just don't get hurt.