I hear at the Erie IBO some of the shooters had to drudge through 8 inches of mud and stand in the water at the stakes to shoot. Many fell in this mud during the shoot. Since this is a national shouldn't one expect to have a decent course to shoot? Don't give me the it's "hunting" like shooting. I don't sit in 8" mud when hunting. Some of the clubs up here will put a bunch of mulch on the trails to keep the mud down. These are just local shoots. I would think a national would have better grounds or better preparation. One person said they had Lacrosse boots on and the water was over the top of them at the stake. For a National event and the cost of entry fees, one should expect better. I feel sorry for anyone that went to their first National shoot there.