My dad got a deer with the crossbow after trying for a few years now. First deer with any bow actually. He has a tweenty two point non typycal on the wall from about 40 years ago with the rifle. He said he would have let it go if it had been the regular gun season, but I sure am glad he got one with the bow. Only in the stand 5 minutes this afternoon went the deer walked by. Ran less the 100 yards and droped. yahooooooooooooooo.