How do I get out an insert?

Discussion in 'General Archery Forum' started by Dredly, Apr 29, 2007.

  1. Dredly

    Dredly Site Guru

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    So I'm putting together some of my arrows and went to put an insert in using Goat Tuff and the stuff dried instantly. the insert is 1/2 in the arrow. How do I get it out?

    I already tried the drill bit trick and it didn't work. Any suggestions or is this arrow trash?
     
  2. jcmorgan31

    jcmorgan31 Prodigal Son

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    Dred, I think you lost one to bad luck.

    My brother-in-law gave me some fatboy 500s to use to build some light arrows. The had inserts in them. I don't know what was used to glue them in, but they ain't coming out. I soaked them in laquer thinner, heated them, beat them with a drill bit and they didn't budge. They did make little ripples in the carbon near the end of the shaft. They may be ruined....

    Good luck and let me know if you find out the secret....
     

  3. Chris

    Chris Administrator Staff Member

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    I've been able to do it with a torch. However, I did have to put a point in it. If you destroyed the threads then you are probably out of luck.
     
  4. BUNNYMAN

    BUNNYMAN I pray for you!

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    if only half the insert is in the shaft, just cut the 1/4 inch of shaft off.....will it be that big of a deal???
     
  5. Pinwheel1969

    Pinwheel1969 #1 THREAD KILLER

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    I have set it in boiling water for about 5 min.'s and have had some success. Its pretty much like crazy glue which breaks down when it gets hot.
     
  6. BowhuntnHoosier

    BowhuntnHoosier Bisquit.......

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    I've heard of the boiling water trick and have heard it works pretty well. But if it does'nt then just do as bowman suggested and cut 1/4" off.:noidea: :hug:
     
  7. hoyt_hunter007

    hoyt_hunter007 Senior Member

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    yup, the field tip and torch method works good for me too :amen:

    only heat up the tip, however....carbon and flames dont get along well :doh:
     
  8. Sniper

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    probobly lost it. If you can't use it cut give it to somebody who can. Heating a point to transfer heat to a insert, then soften the glue will really heat up the shaft too, and will damage the glue that binds the carbon cloth and fibers. Most likely it will weaken the spine in the front couple inches. I have done it, but the arrows seldom fly really true. I use goat tuff, and that is the price you pay for the good bond you get.
     
  9. Holy Smokes

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    Build ya a good fire and lay them in tha edge of tha hot coals and with a old PAIR OF BOOTS STOMP THA DEVIL OUT OF EM. tHAT OUGHTA BE FUN. :biggrin1:
     
  10. kbohunt

    kbohunt are u a fat boy?

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    Hot fire!

    I like smokes idea!:laugh:
    Na, save it you may be able to do like boman said cut the tail end off!:biggrin1:
     
  11. longcut36

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    I think smokes way might not work to good. tie one end to a tree the other to a 4 wheel drive dodge truck. DO NOT use a Chevrolet as it will pull the tree out by the roots if the insert doesnt come out.:biggrin1:
     
  12. Holy Smokes

    Holy Smokes Senior Member

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    :laugh: :laugh: Ya better get a Ford ta do this.
     
  13. longcut36

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    the best glue I have found for inserts for carbon arrows is the glue sticks for glue guns. it's flexible enough to give with impact and wont come lose. I shot them in trees stumps rocks and never had a insert come out or go back in the shaft. and it takes very little heat to get them out. also cheap
     
  14. slamdam

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  15. longcut36

    longcut36 Senior Member

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    dredly I would put the point in and save the arrow for one of those impossible shots. like a groundhog on a rock at 200 yards. one of three things will probably happen.
    1-you will hit the groundhog and be a hero
    2-you will hit the rock and drive the point in were it should be
    3-it will hit the rock and break,problem over with.
    I'm sure there is more options, maybe someone can come up with somthing better.
     
  16. Jay Are

    Jay Are Junior Member

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    I never give up on a messed up insert... I take my arrow gripper for pulling arrows out of targets - wrap it arround the arrow and put it in a vise. Than I heat up the tip with small torch, slowly and pulling on the insert or tip with pliers. With carbon arrows--- You need to go slow with the heat!!.

    I know it seems like a lot of work, but the satisfaction of fixing something I screwed-up is worth it. :biggrin1:
     
  17. Ronhop

    Ronhop RIP

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    I used to be into RC car racing a long time ago and we used super glue to glue on tires. Boiling the tires/wheels in water broke the bond so you could get the tires off without ruining the wheel when you had to replace the tires.

    Ron
     
  18. chelleo

    chelleo Senior Member

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    Would this work for glue in points as well?? I have me a glue gun and I forgot to get epoxy or whatever for my new arrows when they get here.
     
  19. longcut36

    longcut36 Senior Member

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    it sure will work on points. dont use the glue gun just the glue sticks. you will have to heat the inserts or points some to make the glue bond to them. I had my release go off on me sunday and put a arrow in the 4x4. two of us gave it a big jerk and it came out point and all. it wasnt one of my better days